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obaminated
Member Fri Nov 03 16:53:03
http://www...nese-media-homeless-drugs.html

Holy shit.

Nimatzo
iChihuaha Fri Nov 03 19:27:09
A failed City.

Rugian
Member Fri Nov 03 21:33:38

Paramount
Member Sat Nov 04 03:40:00
It is a shithole for sure. Nothing new here. The whole world knows what american cities are like.

Paramount
Member Sat Nov 04 03:51:35
A couple of years ago, Nimatzo was looking to move to the US, but he still remains in Sweden. It is because he knows that the US is not a good country. He saw video clips from the USA and read the news, and it broke him. So he decided he rather raise his children in a socialist country. Even though it has broken him as well. Nimatzo has a hard time coming to terms with the fact that socialism is better than what the US offers.

CHINA RULZ USA SUCKS
Member Sat Nov 04 04:23:24
OURS FENTNYL STRATGY WOKRS!

USA OWND OPSND OBWS PNDW OPND PSBNW

Nimatzo
iChihuaha Sat Nov 04 05:39:24
Literally everything Paramount said is false. America is a great country, but so is Sweden and socialism is evil. I’m not going to leave family and friends. Besides while the USA has some advantages, the same evil corrupt ideas exists there as well. I just recently talked about these things with my parents versus the choices they had. There is no were to run and I don’t like running, yet once you have children you consider this.

The way things are going and developing in Sweden, we will have civil war within 1-2 generations.

Nimatzo
iChihuaha Sat Nov 04 05:39:44
No where*

Rugian
Member Sat Nov 04 08:43:17
San Francisco is a shithole but the Chinese propaganda in the OP is overwrought.

The downtown core has serious issues with homelessness and organized thievery but SF as a whole hasn't experienced the demographic declines of a failed city. It's certainly not a ghost town and it still has a ton of wealth in it. The main economic industries havent relocsted. Tourism hasn't recovered to pre-pandemic levels yet but it is on the upswing.

On the real estate side there are definitely softening in the residential sector regarding unit absorption and rent growth, and the office market is basically in free fall at the moment, but what SF is experiencing is more of a national trend (albeit an extreme version of it). The medium home sales price is still comfortably over a million, clearly people still want to live there.

SF does need to take serious measures to clean up downtown before people start getting permanently scared away from that area. Unfortunately SF's hands are tied to a certain degree by insane state laws (like the $950 floor for thievery to be considered a felony) and bonkers judicial rulings (like the 9th circuit effectively legalizing homeless people's use of city streets). The municipal government's far-left politics are an impediment to progress but realistically there's no changing that. Monetary racial reparations, if passed, will likely exasperate the demographic exodus.

Tldr SF does have significant problems but it's not on par with the absolute shithole that is your average Chinese city.

murder
Member Sat Nov 04 11:21:51

"Unfortunately SF's hands are tied to a certain degree by insane state laws (like the $950 floor for thievery to be considered a felony) ..."

Now how the hell is that insane?

murder
Member Sat Nov 04 11:26:57

"It's certainly not a ghost town ..."

No, those would be brand spanking new Chinese cities. That may be the wildest thing happening on this planet right now. Entire cities built for no reason at all.

obaminated
Member Sun Nov 05 09:24:13
I haven't been to San Fran in years and have no interest. I have been and work around LA obviously and so I'm assuming San Fran is like that.

LA is shit. It hasn't always been shit but it's shit.

A buddy of mine said it best over drinks and away from prying eyes

"10 years ago skid row was a fucking street. 5 years ago skid row became a fucking block. Now skid row is the whole fucking town."

Rugian
Member Sun Nov 05 09:32:25
"Now how the hell is that insane?"

Effectively legalizing theory up to nearly a thousand dollars is a stupid policy. If I have to explain why to you, then you are a stupid person.

Habebe
Member Sun Nov 05 10:39:42
US cities are gross....facts.

Allahuakbar
Member Mon Nov 06 05:15:13
It's not our fault, we Muslims do all we can to help you in your war on drugs, you could pay some respect to the Taliban in Afghanistan:

http://www...hanistan_opium_survey_2023.pdf

In 2023 opium poppy cultivation and opium production dramatically declined after the ban
prohibiting “Poppy Cultivation and All types of Narcotics” was announced by the de-facto
authorities (DfA) in April 2022 Opium poppy cultivation dramatically declined across all parts of the country and almost entirely in some provinces where opium poppy was illicitly cultivated for many years. Nationally, area under
cultivation declined by 95% to a total of just 10,800 ha, indicating that farmers were adhering to the ban that was announced in April 2022.
Consequently, this has reduced the supply of opium and export quality heroin coming out of the
2023 harvest. Opium production saw a similar 95% decline from 6,200 tons produced in 2022 to
333 tons in 2023. The total 2023 opium harvest could be converted into 24-38 tons heroin of export quality (50 – 70% purity). In 2022 that amount was 350-580 tons.

Habebe
Member Mon Nov 06 06:02:44
Heroine was less horrible than fentynall.

Allahuakbar
Member Mon Nov 06 06:20:06
I agree with you. But then you should ally with the Taliban against the godless Chinese communists.

Habebe
Member Mon Nov 06 10:13:16
Allahakbar, Yeah, I'm ok with that.

Paramount
Member Wed Nov 08 01:13:11
”America is a great country” - Nima

What is great about America?

murder
Member Wed Nov 08 05:56:14

I'm here. :o)

Paramount
Member Wed Nov 08 06:07:01
That’s great :P

Rugian
Member Wed Nov 08 07:45:52
Guns, burgers, pizza, bimbos, monster trucks, cowboy hats, SUVs, fireworks, bald eagles, porn, ATVs, McMansions, beer, the Stars and Stripes, football, baseball, mountains, freedom.

Even a Swede like you must be aware of these things Paramount.

Paramount
Member Wed Nov 08 07:55:27
We have all those things in Europe too. Except maybe cowboy hats and the Stars and Stripes.

So… what’s great about America is cowboy hats and Stars and Stripes? lol okay

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obaminated Member	Fri Nov 03 16:53:03 http://www...nese-media-homeless-drugs.html Holy shit.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Nov 03 19:27:09 A failed City.
Rugian Member	Fri Nov 03 21:33:38
Paramount Member	Sat Nov 04 03:40:00 It is a shithole for sure. Nothing new here. The whole world knows what american cities are like.
Paramount Member	Sat Nov 04 03:51:35 A couple of years ago, Nimatzo was looking to move to the US, but he still remains in Sweden. It is because he knows that the US is not a good country. He saw video clips from the USA and read the news, and it broke him. So he decided he rather raise his children in a socialist country. Even though it has broken him as well. Nimatzo has a hard time coming to terms with the fact that socialism is better than what the US offers.
CHINA RULZ USA SUCKS Member	Sat Nov 04 04:23:24 OURS FENTNYL STRATGY WOKRS! USA OWND OPSND OBWS PNDW OPND PSBNW
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Nov 04 05:39:24 Literally everything Paramount said is false. America is a great country, but so is Sweden and socialism is evil. I’m not going to leave family and friends. Besides while the USA has some advantages, the same evil corrupt ideas exists there as well. I just recently talked about these things with my parents versus the choices they had. There is no were to run and I don’t like running, yet once you have children you consider this. The way things are going and developing in Sweden, we will have civil war within 1-2 generations.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Sat Nov 04 05:39:44 No where*
Rugian Member	Sat Nov 04 08:43:17 San Francisco is a shithole but the Chinese propaganda in the OP is overwrought. The downtown core has serious issues with homelessness and organized thievery but SF as a whole hasn't experienced the demographic declines of a failed city. It's certainly not a ghost town and it still has a ton of wealth in it. The main economic industries havent relocsted. Tourism hasn't recovered to pre-pandemic levels yet but it is on the upswing. On the real estate side there are definitely softening in the residential sector regarding unit absorption and rent growth, and the office market is basically in free fall at the moment, but what SF is experiencing is more of a national trend (albeit an extreme version of it). The medium home sales price is still comfortably over a million, clearly people still want to live there. SF does need to take serious measures to clean up downtown before people start getting permanently scared away from that area. Unfortunately SF's hands are tied to a certain degree by insane state laws (like the $950 floor for thievery to be considered a felony) and bonkers judicial rulings (like the 9th circuit effectively legalizing homeless people's use of city streets). The municipal government's far-left politics are an impediment to progress but realistically there's no changing that. Monetary racial reparations, if passed, will likely exasperate the demographic exodus. Tldr SF does have significant problems but it's not on par with the absolute shithole that is your average Chinese city.
murder Member	Sat Nov 04 11:21:51 "Unfortunately SF's hands are tied to a certain degree by insane state laws (like the $950 floor for thievery to be considered a felony) ..." Now how the hell is that insane?
murder Member	Sat Nov 04 11:26:57 "It's certainly not a ghost town ..." No, those would be brand spanking new Chinese cities. That may be the wildest thing happening on this planet right now. Entire cities built for no reason at all.
obaminated Member	Sun Nov 05 09:24:13 I haven't been to San Fran in years and have no interest. I have been and work around LA obviously and so I'm assuming San Fran is like that. LA is shit. It hasn't always been shit but it's shit. A buddy of mine said it best over drinks and away from prying eyes "10 years ago skid row was a fucking street. 5 years ago skid row became a fucking block. Now skid row is the whole fucking town."
Rugian Member	Sun Nov 05 09:32:25 "Now how the hell is that insane?" Effectively legalizing theory up to nearly a thousand dollars is a stupid policy. If I have to explain why to you, then you are a stupid person.
Habebe Member	Sun Nov 05 10:39:42 US cities are gross....facts.
Allahuakbar Member	Mon Nov 06 05:15:13 It's not our fault, we Muslims do all we can to help you in your war on drugs, you could pay some respect to the Taliban in Afghanistan: http://www...hanistan_opium_survey_2023.pdf In 2023 opium poppy cultivation and opium production dramatically declined after the ban prohibiting “Poppy Cultivation and All types of Narcotics” was announced by the de-facto authorities (DfA) in April 2022 Opium poppy cultivation dramatically declined across all parts of the country and almost entirely in some provinces where opium poppy was illicitly cultivated for many years. Nationally, area under cultivation declined by 95% to a total of just 10,800 ha, indicating that farmers were adhering to the ban that was announced in April 2022. Consequently, this has reduced the supply of opium and export quality heroin coming out of the 2023 harvest. Opium production saw a similar 95% decline from 6,200 tons produced in 2022 to 333 tons in 2023. The total 2023 opium harvest could be converted into 24-38 tons heroin of export quality (50 – 70% purity). In 2022 that amount was 350-580 tons.
Habebe Member	Mon Nov 06 06:02:44 Heroine was less horrible than fentynall.
Allahuakbar Member	Mon Nov 06 06:20:06 I agree with you. But then you should ally with the Taliban against the godless Chinese communists.
Habebe Member	Mon Nov 06 10:13:16 Allahakbar, Yeah, I'm ok with that.
Paramount Member	Wed Nov 08 01:13:11 ”America is a great country” - Nima What is great about America?
murder Member	Wed Nov 08 05:56:14 I'm here. :o)
Paramount Member	Wed Nov 08 06:07:01 That’s great :P
Rugian Member	Wed Nov 08 07:45:52 Guns, burgers, pizza, bimbos, monster trucks, cowboy hats, SUVs, fireworks, bald eagles, porn, ATVs, McMansions, beer, the Stars and Stripes, football, baseball, mountains, freedom. Even a Swede like you must be aware of these things Paramount.
Paramount Member	Wed Nov 08 07:55:27 We have all those things in Europe too. Except maybe cowboy hats and the Stars and Stripes. So… what’s great about America is cowboy hats and Stars and Stripes? lol okay
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