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Allahuakbar
Member Thu Nov 16 10:28:42
And he will haunt the Usanians forever^^

http://www...americans-he-was-right-1844234

Bin Laden's Letter to US Stuns Young Americans: 'He Was Right'

Nov 16, 2023

A decades-old document allegedly written by Osama bin Laden and titled "Letter to America" recently went viral on TikTok, with some young Americans believing that the al-Qaeda founder made valid points about their own country.

The two-page document, which was published by The Guardian, is a letter Bin Laden wrote in 2002 as a polemic against the U.S. and an explanation of the ideology that led him to orchestrate the 9/11 attacks.

While the incendiary document is now 21 years old, some have seen the text as a way to make sense of current world affairs, including the Israel-Hamas war. Bin Laden's words have been described as "mind-blowing" and a "revelation."

A search for "Letter to America" on TikTok shows that some of the most popular related clips have over 1 million views each.

"It's wild and everyone should read it," said one TikTok user, warning that the letter had left her "very disillusioned" and "confused." Another user talked of having an "existential crisis" after reading the document and having her entire viewpoint on life changed by it.

"It's actually so mind-blowing to me that terrorism has been sold as this idea to the American people…that this group of people, this random group of people, just suddenly wakes up one day and just hates you…it doesn't make sense," another TikTok user said.

A few TikTok reactions to the letter show users recreating their joy at hearing of Bin Laden's death in 2011, then contrasting it with their shock at reading the letter in 2023, adding the phrase "he was right."

Bin Laden, the son of a wealthy Saudi businessman, founded al-Qaeda—or "the Base"—in 1988 following the Soviets' defeat and withdrawal from Afghanistan, a conflict in which he fought.

Under his leadership, the group launched several deadly attacks and bombings in various nations, including the attacks on September 11, 2001, where terrorists hijacked four airliners in the eastern U.S., crashing three of them against the two towers of the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia. The fourth plane crashed in a field in Pennsylvania. In October of the same year, bin Laden was added to the U.S. Most Wanted Terrorist List.

The 9/11 attacks killed nearly 3,000 Americans and injured thousands more.

In the letter, bin Laden accused the U.S. of being responsible for the oppression of Palestinians because of its support for Israel.

"The creation and continuation of Israel is one of the greatest crimes, and you are the leaders of its criminals," bin Laden wrote. "Each and every person whose hands have become polluted in the contribution towards this crime must pay its price, and pay for it heavily."

The Saudi-born militant then wrote that Palestinians had to be "revenged," along with the people of Afghanistan. The U.S.' purported role in the oppression of Palestinians and Muslims, according to bin Laden, was a justification for the murdering of American civilians.

"The American people are the ones who pay the taxes which fund the planes that bomb us in Afghanistan, the tanks that strike and destroy our homes in Palestine, the armies which occupy our lands in the Arabian Gulf, and the fleets which ensure the blockade of Iraq," bin Laden wrote. "This is why the American people cannot be innocent of all the crimes committed by the Americans and Jews against us."

The Guardian has since deleted the letter without offering an explanation. The page now has a message reading: "This page previously displayed a document containing, in translation, the full text of Osama bin Laden's 'letter to the American people,' as reported in the Observer on Sunday 24 November 2002. The document, which was published here on the same day, was removed on 15 November 2023."

At the time of its original publication, the letter was described by the Guardian as "a chilling new message from Osama bin Laden" that was being circulated among British Islamic extremists, "calling for attacks on civilians and describing the 'Islamic nation' as 'eager for martyrdom.'"

The removal of the document from the British newspaper's website has led to accusations of a conspiracy to cover up the truth.

However, many on social media have taken issue with those seeing any merit in the letter, with one describing people finding "truth" in the letter as "ridiculous." Another asserted that the letter might be part of "a deliberate trend manipulation campaign."

obaminated
Member Thu Nov 16 10:51:09
Generation Z is useless and a lot of them are borderline retarded.

Rugian
Member Thu Nov 16 10:52:47
Yes. I'm not sure who is more to blame here, parents, the leftwing education system, or social media, but we clearly failed to adequately teach our values to an entire generation of young people.

murder
Member Thu Nov 16 12:39:32

Weren't we threatening to ban TikTok?

Nimatzo
iChihuaha Thu Nov 16 14:54:40
I got chills when I read this the other day on twitter. The past 20 years have been paving the way for stuff like this. The barbarians are not at the gates, they are already inside.

Paramount
Member Thu Nov 16 16:55:32
I remember I posted The Guardian’s Osama letter here back in the days. But I don’t remember that the letter was ”chilling” or that it contained ”calls for attacks on civilians”. I remember he was ranting about the hypocrisy of the US, something about the scale of justice, and the need for the US to leave muslim land.

Maybe it was ”chilling” and controversial for the West 20 years ago that someone would write in a letter that the US are hypocrites and that Muslims are subjected to injustice. I don’t know, maybe it is still ”chilling” for some people in the West to hear someone say that.

obaminated
Member Thu Nov 16 17:29:44
Parafag doesn't get it.

murder
Member Thu Nov 16 17:52:07

We need to ban TikTok and Islam.

obaminated
Member Thu Nov 16 19:34:16
Social media and technology at large has negative effected a generation of kids with absent parents and a lax school system.

Dukhat
Member Thu Nov 16 19:48:37
Social media hardens feelings and increases polarization. People only seek out those that already agree with them.

For very young people, it destroys their minds. They stay immature forever.

Nimatzo
iChihuaha Fri Nov 17 03:56:27
obaminated
Member Thu Nov 16 17:29:44
Parafag doesn't get it.

That's his way of saying he is part of the 5th column.

Paramount
Member Fri Nov 17 08:24:36
Nimnazio’s home country broke his father and mother so they had to take their child, Nimnazio, to a socialist country, Sweden. Lol. They came here with forged documents. Like thieves. And then Sweden broke Nimnazio. So he was looking to escape to USA. He even wanted his PKK-wife to give birth to their child in the US so the child would get an American citizenship. But then Mr Trump broke Nimnazio’s dream by banning all Iranians from entering the US. So now he is stuck in Sweden. A country he hates. Everyday he wakes up more broken than the day before. He decided he needed to get a gun. So Nimnazio, pretended he was suddenly interested in hunting moose in order to get a license.

To be continued…

Paramount
Member Fri Nov 17 08:31:37
Obaminated probably has a similar background. A broken boy from Mexico who couldn’t stand his home country so he hid in a weiner sausage truck and entered the US illegally.

To be continued…

Dukhat
Member Fri Nov 17 10:15:09
America is kind of an anomaly in that birthright citizenship is taken for granted here. In most other countries in the world, being born in the country in no way grants citizenship and that includes the British commonwealth.

And it is a popular position to deny birthright citizenship too. Lots of foreign celebrities try to have their babies in the US to give them US citizenship.

Jackie Chan for example had his moron son here and now he hangs around LA spending daddy's money.

Nimatzo
iChihuaha Fri Nov 17 12:41:14
Paramount
The Sweden I came to, was just fine, it’s what people like you did to it that is tragedy.

obaminated
Member Fri Nov 17 14:52:14
Actually I was born in anaheim California to a father who was Irish and a mother who was Mexican. Obviously a lot of other ethnicties are involved. So. Parafag. I know far more about race relations, the difficulties of racism (on both sides) and the value of what the melting pot Actually is than you ever will, you vanilla loser.

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Allahuakbar Member	Thu Nov 16 10:28:42 And he will haunt the Usanians forever^^ http://www...americans-he-was-right-1844234 Bin Laden's Letter to US Stuns Young Americans: 'He Was Right' Nov 16, 2023 A decades-old document allegedly written by Osama bin Laden and titled "Letter to America" recently went viral on TikTok, with some young Americans believing that the al-Qaeda founder made valid points about their own country. The two-page document, which was published by The Guardian, is a letter Bin Laden wrote in 2002 as a polemic against the U.S. and an explanation of the ideology that led him to orchestrate the 9/11 attacks. While the incendiary document is now 21 years old, some have seen the text as a way to make sense of current world affairs, including the Israel-Hamas war. Bin Laden's words have been described as "mind-blowing" and a "revelation." A search for "Letter to America" on TikTok shows that some of the most popular related clips have over 1 million views each. "It's wild and everyone should read it," said one TikTok user, warning that the letter had left her "very disillusioned" and "confused." Another user talked of having an "existential crisis" after reading the document and having her entire viewpoint on life changed by it. "It's actually so mind-blowing to me that terrorism has been sold as this idea to the American people…that this group of people, this random group of people, just suddenly wakes up one day and just hates you…it doesn't make sense," another TikTok user said. A few TikTok reactions to the letter show users recreating their joy at hearing of Bin Laden's death in 2011, then contrasting it with their shock at reading the letter in 2023, adding the phrase "he was right." Bin Laden, the son of a wealthy Saudi businessman, founded al-Qaeda—or "the Base"—in 1988 following the Soviets' defeat and withdrawal from Afghanistan, a conflict in which he fought. Under his leadership, the group launched several deadly attacks and bombings in various nations, including the attacks on September 11, 2001, where terrorists hijacked four airliners in the eastern U.S., crashing three of them against the two towers of the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia. The fourth plane crashed in a field in Pennsylvania. In October of the same year, bin Laden was added to the U.S. Most Wanted Terrorist List. The 9/11 attacks killed nearly 3,000 Americans and injured thousands more. In the letter, bin Laden accused the U.S. of being responsible for the oppression of Palestinians because of its support for Israel. "The creation and continuation of Israel is one of the greatest crimes, and you are the leaders of its criminals," bin Laden wrote. "Each and every person whose hands have become polluted in the contribution towards this crime must pay its price, and pay for it heavily." The Saudi-born militant then wrote that Palestinians had to be "revenged," along with the people of Afghanistan. The U.S.' purported role in the oppression of Palestinians and Muslims, according to bin Laden, was a justification for the murdering of American civilians. "The American people are the ones who pay the taxes which fund the planes that bomb us in Afghanistan, the tanks that strike and destroy our homes in Palestine, the armies which occupy our lands in the Arabian Gulf, and the fleets which ensure the blockade of Iraq," bin Laden wrote. "This is why the American people cannot be innocent of all the crimes committed by the Americans and Jews against us." The Guardian has since deleted the letter without offering an explanation. The page now has a message reading: "This page previously displayed a document containing, in translation, the full text of Osama bin Laden's 'letter to the American people,' as reported in the Observer on Sunday 24 November 2002. The document, which was published here on the same day, was removed on 15 November 2023." At the time of its original publication, the letter was described by the Guardian as "a chilling new message from Osama bin Laden" that was being circulated among British Islamic extremists, "calling for attacks on civilians and describing the 'Islamic nation' as 'eager for martyrdom.'" The removal of the document from the British newspaper's website has led to accusations of a conspiracy to cover up the truth. However, many on social media have taken issue with those seeing any merit in the letter, with one describing people finding "truth" in the letter as "ridiculous." Another asserted that the letter might be part of "a deliberate trend manipulation campaign."
obaminated Member	Thu Nov 16 10:51:09 Generation Z is useless and a lot of them are borderline retarded.
Rugian Member	Thu Nov 16 10:52:47 Yes. I'm not sure who is more to blame here, parents, the leftwing education system, or social media, but we clearly failed to adequately teach our values to an entire generation of young people.
murder Member	Thu Nov 16 12:39:32 Weren't we threatening to ban TikTok?
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Nov 16 14:54:40 I got chills when I read this the other day on twitter. The past 20 years have been paving the way for stuff like this. The barbarians are not at the gates, they are already inside.
Paramount Member	Thu Nov 16 16:55:32 I remember I posted The Guardian’s Osama letter here back in the days. But I don’t remember that the letter was ”chilling” or that it contained ”calls for attacks on civilians”. I remember he was ranting about the hypocrisy of the US, something about the scale of justice, and the need for the US to leave muslim land. Maybe it was ”chilling” and controversial for the West 20 years ago that someone would write in a letter that the US are hypocrites and that Muslims are subjected to injustice. I don’t know, maybe it is still ”chilling” for some people in the West to hear someone say that.
obaminated Member	Thu Nov 16 17:29:44 Parafag doesn't get it.
murder Member	Thu Nov 16 17:52:07 We need to ban TikTok and Islam.
obaminated Member	Thu Nov 16 19:34:16 Social media and technology at large has negative effected a generation of kids with absent parents and a lax school system.
Dukhat Member	Thu Nov 16 19:48:37 Social media hardens feelings and increases polarization. People only seek out those that already agree with them. For very young people, it destroys their minds. They stay immature forever.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Nov 17 03:56:27 obaminated Member Thu Nov 16 17:29:44 Parafag doesn't get it. That's his way of saying he is part of the 5th column.
Paramount Member	Fri Nov 17 08:24:36 Nimnazio’s home country broke his father and mother so they had to take their child, Nimnazio, to a socialist country, Sweden. Lol. They came here with forged documents. Like thieves. And then Sweden broke Nimnazio. So he was looking to escape to USA. He even wanted his PKK-wife to give birth to their child in the US so the child would get an American citizenship. But then Mr Trump broke Nimnazio’s dream by banning all Iranians from entering the US. So now he is stuck in Sweden. A country he hates. Everyday he wakes up more broken than the day before. He decided he needed to get a gun. So Nimnazio, pretended he was suddenly interested in hunting moose in order to get a license. To be continued…
Paramount Member	Fri Nov 17 08:31:37 Obaminated probably has a similar background. A broken boy from Mexico who couldn’t stand his home country so he hid in a weiner sausage truck and entered the US illegally. To be continued…
Dukhat Member	Fri Nov 17 10:15:09 America is kind of an anomaly in that birthright citizenship is taken for granted here. In most other countries in the world, being born in the country in no way grants citizenship and that includes the British commonwealth. And it is a popular position to deny birthright citizenship too. Lots of foreign celebrities try to have their babies in the US to give them US citizenship. Jackie Chan for example had his moron son here and now he hangs around LA spending daddy's money.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Nov 17 12:41:14 Paramount The Sweden I came to, was just fine, it’s what people like you did to it that is tragedy.
obaminated Member	Fri Nov 17 14:52:14 Actually I was born in anaheim California to a father who was Irish and a mother who was Mexican. Obviously a lot of other ethnicties are involved. So. Parafag. I know far more about race relations, the difficulties of racism (on both sides) and the value of what the melting pot Actually is than you ever will, you vanilla loser.
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