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patom
Member Sun Dec 03 04:08:16
Another Trump appointed Judge makes a ruling that threatens voting rights.

http://www...te-landmark-voting-rights-act/

Cherub Cow
Member Sun Dec 03 08:45:38
Jim Crow? More like Jim Eagle! He's gonna put y'all *back* in chains!

Anyways, if patom is against this based on some trash leftist website, then it's probably a good thing. Anything that erodes the commie doctrines of the Civil Rights Act is probably good, though, since leftists cannot survive without the parasitism of slavery.

murder
Member Sun Dec 03 21:02:14

Voting in the US was always meant to be restricted to certain types of people.

patom
Member Mon Dec 04 07:03:33
Cherob Cow, I've noticed some say you are a woman. As one (if you are), how many offspring have you brought into the world to feed the need for workers or more breeding stock?
Will you follow the dictates of the Republicans and breed until you die?

Rugian
Member Mon Dec 04 07:28:15
Patom

Your problem is that you are still living in the year 1961.

VRA hasn't been relevant for decades and is long overdue for repeal.

Its only a good law if you believe that the South is still, a good 70 years later, hellbent on denying blacks the right to vote.

1960s mentalities should have no place in the world of 2023.

patom
Member Mon Dec 04 08:11:00
And you apparently believe that History will never repeat itself.

In 61 I went into the Navy and was stationed at NAS Norfolk Va. I witnessed Jim Crow. Whites only drinking fountains, bathrooms, restaurants, etc.

I was naive enough to wonder what was the problem with black people eating in the same restaurants as white people. Especially as 90% or the people doing the cooking and food prep were black.

Where I grew up was in Bucks County Pa. and even there we had segregation. The swim club I worked at was within a few hundred yards of a black neighborhood. Yet no blacks were allowed to join.
The skating rink I learned to skate at had 7 3 hr. sessions a week for whites, one 3 hr. session for blacks.

I don't know what planet you are on but the powers that be would be tickled to return to full blown Jim Crow.

Cherub Cow
Member Tue Dec 05 00:20:00
[patom]: "I was naive enough to wonder what was the problem with black people eating in the same restaurants as white people."

And *now* you know? You've seen the crime stats?
That would be good, if so. Segregation should be allowed for private enterprises which do not mass-adopt statist frameworks to undermine their private status. Special privileged classes were always a foot-in-door for statist control of society. State-sanctioned BLM riots and dysgenic warfare through Planned Parenthood (i.e., Planned Parenthood skimming the cream of the milk by removing those genetically capable of choice) are the fruits of the Civil Rights era. No class should be protected. Protected classes — in their very existence — force the creation of master classes, since classes define themselves in relation to each other.

[patom]: "how many offspring have you brought into the world to feed the need for workers or more breeding stock?"

I won't fall into an «ad hominem» and red herring, but I've spoken extensively about this exact issue in the totalitarians threads. This is a short summary I posted elsewhere:

-=-=-=-
Westerners having as many kids as possible is the only "legitimate" action that the Regime has given — the only decision which exists outside of victories through state bureaucracy but which does not infringe upon others. The Regime is not even happy about this, of course, and their propaganda is trying to prevent it through demoralization propaganda and economic warfare, but it's the only non-"Minecraft" response. I consider it a baseline response. It is something that nearly every Westerner should be doing.

But it is not enough.
Even if Western population pyramids were to heal, the West is being out-competed through the immigration strategy. That is, Westerners having 5–10 kids cannot compete with open borders that bring in millions.

But just like the left uses all avenues at once, so too should the right in the West employ all at once:
• Have as many children as you can — even if you cannot "afford" it,
• Stop immigration,
• Begin mass-deportations,
• Counter-signal the demoralization propaganda, and
• Purge the bureaucracies.

Start locally (have children), and work outwards as you can. We are in a Eugenics/Dysgenics war. You cannot ignore having children while hoping for victories elsewhere. Westerners may indeed reach equilibrium when left alone, but the non-Westerners being imported to destroy the West have no such concerns.
-=-=-=-

patom
Member Tue Dec 05 03:19:33
Sieg Heil

Cherub Cow
Member Tue Dec 05 05:13:10
[patom]: "Sieg Heil"

Glad to see you so transparently embracing the inevitable consequence of your leftist dogmas while attempting a thought-terminating cliché.

A slave revolt must produce a "Master" class. This is the leftist dogma. If you believe in this "oppressor"/"oppressed" dialectic of the left ("woke"), then you necessarily effect a "Master" class that has the oppressor's characteristics but the oppressed's civil protections. This is the mastery championed by the global left. Or what do you suppose is the result of giving millions of dollars to BLM destroyers for their mansions while never asking them to be noble?

And if you think that an ethnic population — which is being targeted openly by global leftists for extermination under this "Master" logic — is engaging in "white supremacy"/"Nazi" behavior for seeing this leftist threat and attempting to protect its genetic futures... then you may want to re-evaluate the source that inspires you to use these thought-terminating clichés. At even a core recognition of the family, you should be able to see the value of having children as did all of your ancestors. If your dogma says that continuing your own existence is "Nazism", then you are indeed a demoralized leftist, ready to be enslaved or eradicated by your own leftist ideology.

patom
Member Tue Dec 05 05:58:24
There's hope for you Cherub. You talk the talk. How about walking the walk.

http//www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/70-year-old-ugandan-woman-gives-birth-to-twins-after-fertility-treatment/#:~:text=KAMPALA%2C%20Uganda%20(AP)%20%E2%80%94,the%20world's%20oldest%20new%20mothers.

Cherub Cow
Member Tue Dec 05 07:18:21
Sticking with the «ad hominem» route?

I must say that it has been illuminating to see UP's leftists consistently reveal that it is not just ignorance of simple truths that drives them to select a dysfunctional ideology but malicious and overt evil. This is clear from the fact that whether or not the leftist learns the truth he will behave exactly the same way — in a way which brings about the annihilation of the West. It is a destroyer ideology.

As I've said to tw, I hope you live forever and remember everything that you have done.

patom
Member Tue Dec 05 08:45:56
I hope you live long enough for the right wing evangelicals come a knocking at your door with a vial of semen to implant in you. Remember the babies you bring to life will save the West.

Forwyn
Member Tue Dec 05 19:33:49
Always hilarious when leftists denigrate motherhood as some sort of servitude. Unless you're one of the happy brown mothers with eight kids that patom is far enough north to never have to see.

Surely patom is sending some Social Security bux to the empowered wymynz' CashApps in lieu of evangelical slavery.

patom
Member Wed Dec 06 04:04:26
Forwyn, My father was the youngest of 11. My mother was one of 4 survivors of 9 pregnancies. Never met my paternal grandparents. My mothers mother died 6 weeks after giving birth to my youngest aunt. Apparently they were normal breeding practices a century ago for good Catholic women.

Cherub Cow, so glad you are emulating your orange god. Always insisting others do the dirty work for you. Believing there is an unending supply of suckers willing to die for you.

Cherub Cow
Member Wed Dec 06 05:30:51
[Forwyn]: "Always hilarious when leftists denigrate motherhood as some sort of servitude. Unless you're one of the happy brown mothers with eight kids that patom is far enough north to never have to see."

Yep! The leftist mind holds nothing sacred — especially their biological families, since their "true" family is the State.

I couldn't locate this neat visualization I saw recently, but their "center" of value-balance is external. They value the collective more than their own lives, which, ironically, dooms the collective. They really do care more about "current thing" issue for "oppressed" people than their own families and peoples, for whom they have nothing but resentment.

[patom (destroyer ideology)]: "I hope you..."

More of the same ad homs. Highly unimpressive, patom, but entirely expected from an authoritarian-left psychopath.

When your mind shut off and went into ad hom mode, did any level of meta-thought kick in that made you wonder why your defensive reaction was to abandon all reason? Do you feel this impulse to abandon reason when you see "your orange god"?

I'm also curious in general:
Is there any point in the eradication of White people that it will cease to be a conspiracy theory and that the pushback of those White people will not dismissively be called "white supremacy"?

To the psychosis leftist, probably there is no point. The all-too-frequent fallback position is the admission from the left that they think White people deserve it. Celebration Parallax is undefeated left-wing psyche predictor.

Forwyn
Member Wed Dec 06 14:44:49
"Mothers used to undergo multiple pregbancies, which was exhausting and dangerous, unlike the coal-mining and fishery jobs their husbands had. Therefore, we should tell girls horror stories about pregnancy and child-rearing, so that they can make the 'choice' to forego motherhood in favor of the boss bitch/chasing the bag mentality and work for their corporate overlords instead. We will just import more uneducated immigrants to have our children for us, enjoy the double whammy of wage stagnation"

Nimatzo
iChihuaha Wed Dec 06 15:50:10
CC
"that it is not just ignorance of simple truths that drives them to select a dysfunctional ideology but malicious and overt evil."

Not many explanations there to dig for. You have heard of the concept "strategic essentialism", wild idea, to engage in the very thing you wish to destroy, no way that can wrong eh? No way for racism to escape the strategic scope and get a life of it own. Your observation aligns with mine, given that I have repeatedly been caught holding the wrong opinions for my "skin color" :)

Cherub Cow
Member Thu Dec 07 05:01:36
[Forewyn]: "so that they can make the 'choice' to forego motherhood"

your comment ftw
Funny how the "choices" the left always offers are those where the "correct" choice is annihilation. That "Brave New World" theme of being offered an easy path into slavery is relevant. The people flooding into the West don't even comprehend that kind of choice. They just see a soft target to conquer.

[Nim]: "No way for racism to escape the strategic scope and get a life of it own."

Exactly. "The revolution eats its children." They don't get to just help their oligarchs achieve power and afterwards become moral. The logic of "The end justifies the means" can only corrupt the end.

And chastising people for not automatically (due to some inherent characteristic such as race or sex) joining an army of resentful destroyers only works when those people are willing to be convinced to be enslaved at the end of it. That's all a slave revolt can offer. ("[Oh! I'll get to have free and easy abortions as a slave!]") Seb, wtb, and now Patom will make that absurd "black face of white supremacy" argument in earnest, but it's only designed to stoke entry into an immoral coalition of resentment. David Pakman tried that same thing against Ramaswamy, all but saying, "You know, brown man, if you join the revolt, we'll pronounce your name correctly before completely discarding you as just another number in a collectivist suicide."

Those racialist arguments fall flat when the "ask" of the con is to open the castle gates for destroyers. It's a far better argument to champion nobility and to only ask that your allies recognize the unconquerable spirit within themselves by which they can inherit the world through their own eternal works.

patom
Member Thu Dec 07 05:35:07
Funny you mention choice. Who on the left is condemning any women for having lots of children? Who on the left is proposing laws that take a woman's right to choose whether to have as many as possible or none at all?

You seem to have it in your head that the only people who have a choice are you and your fellow Neocons who deem it your responsibility to make the choices for all others.

Cherub Cow
Member Thu Dec 07 06:44:23
[patom]: "Who on the left is condemning any women for having lots of children?"

Wow, you only want one example?
AOC: "“And it does lead, I think, young people to have a legitimate question, you know, ‘Is it okay to still have children?’”"
http://nyp...ns-we-should-stop-having-kids/

[patom]: "Who on the left is proposing laws that take a woman's right to choose"

Just as I was overtly mocking the left's false use of "choice" in the "pro-choice" argument, patom *uses* the dialectic earnestly. Does patom just have boomer-brain? Like, he takes words and phrases such as "pro-choice"/"right to choose" and "Antifa" at face value?

A response in meme format for reference:

• "[Leftists] write their semantic contradiction into their very ideology.
Do Hegelian "Masters" promote liberty? Of course not.
Items such as "democracy", "universal/global human rights", and "choice" are mirages for corralling the droughty to deserts of slavery."
http://twitter.com/CherubCow/status/1695633079287861352

• "For Bolsheviks, "our democracy" is Party Doctrine/Power; the total state's use of propaganda to control "mob rule" by culling citizen choices.
Abortion fulfills this purpose of "democracy", allowing the Party to direct its eugenics program while claiming a granting of rights."

• "A similar strategy is represented in the way “choice” is treated by the Regime regarding abortion. The short version is that collectivist oligarchs are not actually interested in choice as choice is antithetical to the collectivist’s aversion to individual freedom; truly, when Regime collectivists say, “choice,” they mean, “compliance with the Regime and annihilation”."
http://cherubcow.substack.com/p/the-house-oversight-committee-discovers

In other words, the most glaringly obvious proof that the DNC is lying when saying they're "pro-choice" (in its literal sense, not the DNC's "pro-abortion"/"pro-dygenics" meaning) and for "a woman's right to choose" is that they are entirely *against* liberty. They are *against* choice. They are *for* compliance.

Compare this to true choice during the pandemic. Were they for choice *then*? Of fucking course not. The most psychotic leftists were all 100% for compliance (get the shot) or annihilation (e.g., total loss of livelihood). These psychosis leftists are so completely invested in this total deprivation of choice that even now — after so much evidence has been born out — they would positively insist that anyone who did not get a shot is a terrible person. There is *zero* respect for choice in that. The left is *not* pro-choice in its literal sense.

And is the right for "a woman's right to choose"?
In the literal sense, yes.
This is because the right is capable of 2nd order thinking and morality.

The left believes that "choice" only occurs when you've failed at your entire life and are suddenly pregnant with some deviant's one-night-stand child. The right recognizes a thousand choices which led to the one-night-stand — a thousand chances to be virtuous before the consequences of your own actions brought you to a situation that affects more than just yourself. And even then, the left's only "choice" is to suspend virtue even further — to again "choose" the destruction of the self through the destruction of one's offspring. And the state smiles at the left for making this "choice" (this aversion towards accountability). So strange that "choice" to the left only means obedience! These are not the workings of a moral people. This is the morality of destroyers.

Cherub Cow
Member Thu Dec 07 06:44:57
forgot to lol at this:

lol:
"your fellow Neocons"

Nimatzo
iChihuaha Thu Dec 07 11:00:25
CC
"Does patom just have boomer-brain?"

The few interactions I have had with Patom seems to suggest he is in the late stages of Sebgul's syndrome.

Rugian
Member Thu Dec 07 11:02:27
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THE RAILS

Cherub Cow
Member Fri Dec 08 05:38:55
No we stayed on the rails. :p

One-sentence summary:
Patom thinks that Civil Rights Law is "good", and as a direct consequence of this flawed ideology, through the left's creation of "protected classes" he believes that the ethnic cleansing of White people (an unprotected class) is also "good", as is the killing of unborn children (an unprotected class), since the left is an Enslavement/Death Cult.

The oil field here is dry, but for more updates, see tw's TDS/Enslavement/Death Cult threads. He's flying through #40 right now.

[Nim]: "Sebgul's syndrome."

It afflicts so many. :'(

Good night, sweet Sebgul princes.
Keep drinking Folgers coffee (keep the can for your future urn) and telling yourself that the migrants designed to replace you as a client group are just as much citizens as you are and that you came in just as easily.

Yellowstone meme: "I reckon that there piece of paper you got stamped at the border 5 minutes ago gives you just as much of a right to this country as anyone else. Bengali, Indian, Chinese — we're all leftist client groups together."

*large explosion*
*plot of "Brazil" continues*

patom
Member Sat Dec 09 15:03:59
Cherub Cow, here's some great news for you. I'm sure you will be enjoying this:

http://www...x-abortion-ruling/71862324007/

Habebe
Member Sat Dec 09 16:31:43
I just wanted to let you know, I'm winning streak, I won so many prizes on Temu, I may bankruptcy the nation of China.

Even they said they can't believe luck.

Habebe
Member Sat Dec 09 17:10:59
My hands are bad at typing, lots of calluses, clearing trees and laying a new roof and floor in two sheds.

obaminated
Member Sat Dec 09 18:06:21
It's hard to stay patient with patom. He clearly is an idiot with borderline insane political beliefs but we sorta handle him with kiddie gloves because he is old and probably not fully aware of how damaging, short sighted and frankly immature (irony) his positions are.

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patom Member	Sun Dec 03 04:08:16 Another Trump appointed Judge makes a ruling that threatens voting rights. http://www...te-landmark-voting-rights-act/
Cherub Cow Member	Sun Dec 03 08:45:38 Jim Crow? More like Jim Eagle! He's gonna put y'all back in chains! Anyways, if patom is against this based on some trash leftist website, then it's probably a good thing. Anything that erodes the commie doctrines of the Civil Rights Act is probably good, though, since leftists cannot survive without the parasitism of slavery.
murder Member	Sun Dec 03 21:02:14 Voting in the US was always meant to be restricted to certain types of people.
patom Member	Mon Dec 04 07:03:33 Cherob Cow, I've noticed some say you are a woman. As one (if you are), how many offspring have you brought into the world to feed the need for workers or more breeding stock? Will you follow the dictates of the Republicans and breed until you die?
Rugian Member	Mon Dec 04 07:28:15 Patom Your problem is that you are still living in the year 1961. VRA hasn't been relevant for decades and is long overdue for repeal. Its only a good law if you believe that the South is still, a good 70 years later, hellbent on denying blacks the right to vote. 1960s mentalities should have no place in the world of 2023.
patom Member	Mon Dec 04 08:11:00 And you apparently believe that History will never repeat itself. In 61 I went into the Navy and was stationed at NAS Norfolk Va. I witnessed Jim Crow. Whites only drinking fountains, bathrooms, restaurants, etc. I was naive enough to wonder what was the problem with black people eating in the same restaurants as white people. Especially as 90% or the people doing the cooking and food prep were black. Where I grew up was in Bucks County Pa. and even there we had segregation. The swim club I worked at was within a few hundred yards of a black neighborhood. Yet no blacks were allowed to join. The skating rink I learned to skate at had 7 3 hr. sessions a week for whites, one 3 hr. session for blacks. I don't know what planet you are on but the powers that be would be tickled to return to full blown Jim Crow.
Cherub Cow Member	Tue Dec 05 00:20:00 [patom]: "I was naive enough to wonder what was the problem with black people eating in the same restaurants as white people." And now you know? You've seen the crime stats? That would be good, if so. Segregation should be allowed for private enterprises which do not mass-adopt statist frameworks to undermine their private status. Special privileged classes were always a foot-in-door for statist control of society. State-sanctioned BLM riots and dysgenic warfare through Planned Parenthood (i.e., Planned Parenthood skimming the cream of the milk by removing those genetically capable of choice) are the fruits of the Civil Rights era. No class should be protected. Protected classes — in their very existence — force the creation of master classes, since classes define themselves in relation to each other. [patom]: "how many offspring have you brought into the world to feed the need for workers or more breeding stock?" I won't fall into an «ad hominem» and red herring, but I've spoken extensively about this exact issue in the totalitarians threads. This is a short summary I posted elsewhere: -=-=-=- Westerners having as many kids as possible is the only "legitimate" action that the Regime has given — the only decision which exists outside of victories through state bureaucracy but which does not infringe upon others. The Regime is not even happy about this, of course, and their propaganda is trying to prevent it through demoralization propaganda and economic warfare, but it's the only non-"Minecraft" response. I consider it a baseline response. It is something that nearly every Westerner should be doing. But it is not enough. Even if Western population pyramids were to heal, the West is being out-competed through the immigration strategy. That is, Westerners having 5–10 kids cannot compete with open borders that bring in millions. But just like the left uses all avenues at once, so too should the right in the West employ all at once: • Have as many children as you can — even if you cannot "afford" it, • Stop immigration, • Begin mass-deportations, • Counter-signal the demoralization propaganda, and • Purge the bureaucracies. Start locally (have children), and work outwards as you can. We are in a Eugenics/Dysgenics war. You cannot ignore having children while hoping for victories elsewhere. Westerners may indeed reach equilibrium when left alone, but the non-Westerners being imported to destroy the West have no such concerns. -=-=-=-
patom Member	Tue Dec 05 03:19:33 Sieg Heil
Cherub Cow Member	Tue Dec 05 05:13:10 [patom]: "Sieg Heil" Glad to see you so transparently embracing the inevitable consequence of your leftist dogmas while attempting a thought-terminating cliché. A slave revolt must produce a "Master" class. This is the leftist dogma. If you believe in this "oppressor"/"oppressed" dialectic of the left ("woke"), then you necessarily effect a "Master" class that has the oppressor's characteristics but the oppressed's civil protections. This is the mastery championed by the global left. Or what do you suppose is the result of giving millions of dollars to BLM destroyers for their mansions while never asking them to be noble? And if you think that an ethnic population — which is being targeted openly by global leftists for extermination under this "Master" logic — is engaging in "white supremacy"/"Nazi" behavior for seeing this leftist threat and attempting to protect its genetic futures... then you may want to re-evaluate the source that inspires you to use these thought-terminating clichés. At even a core recognition of the family, you should be able to see the value of having children as did all of your ancestors. If your dogma says that continuing your own existence is "Nazism", then you are indeed a demoralized leftist, ready to be enslaved or eradicated by your own leftist ideology.
patom Member	Tue Dec 05 05:58:24 There's hope for you Cherub. You talk the talk. How about walking the walk. http//www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/70-year-old-ugandan-woman-gives-birth-to-twins-after-fertility-treatment/#:~:text=KAMPALA%2C%20Uganda%20(AP)%20%E2%80%94,the%20world's%20oldest%20new%20mothers.
Cherub Cow Member	Tue Dec 05 07:18:21 Sticking with the «ad hominem» route? I must say that it has been illuminating to see UP's leftists consistently reveal that it is not just ignorance of simple truths that drives them to select a dysfunctional ideology but malicious and overt evil. This is clear from the fact that whether or not the leftist learns the truth he will behave exactly the same way — in a way which brings about the annihilation of the West. It is a destroyer ideology. As I've said to tw, I hope you live forever and remember everything that you have done.
patom Member	Tue Dec 05 08:45:56 I hope you live long enough for the right wing evangelicals come a knocking at your door with a vial of semen to implant in you. Remember the babies you bring to life will save the West.
Forwyn Member	Tue Dec 05 19:33:49 Always hilarious when leftists denigrate motherhood as some sort of servitude. Unless you're one of the happy brown mothers with eight kids that patom is far enough north to never have to see. Surely patom is sending some Social Security bux to the empowered wymynz' CashApps in lieu of evangelical slavery.
patom Member	Wed Dec 06 04:04:26 Forwyn, My father was the youngest of 11. My mother was one of 4 survivors of 9 pregnancies. Never met my paternal grandparents. My mothers mother died 6 weeks after giving birth to my youngest aunt. Apparently they were normal breeding practices a century ago for good Catholic women. Cherub Cow, so glad you are emulating your orange god. Always insisting others do the dirty work for you. Believing there is an unending supply of suckers willing to die for you.
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Dec 06 05:30:51 [Forwyn]: "Always hilarious when leftists denigrate motherhood as some sort of servitude. Unless you're one of the happy brown mothers with eight kids that patom is far enough north to never have to see." Yep! The leftist mind holds nothing sacred — especially their biological families, since their "true" family is the State. I couldn't locate this neat visualization I saw recently, but their "center" of value-balance is external. They value the collective more than their own lives, which, ironically, dooms the collective. They really do care more about "current thing" issue for "oppressed" people than their own families and peoples, for whom they have nothing but resentment. [patom (destroyer ideology)]: "I hope you..." More of the same ad homs. Highly unimpressive, patom, but entirely expected from an authoritarian-left psychopath. When your mind shut off and went into ad hom mode, did any level of meta-thought kick in that made you wonder why your defensive reaction was to abandon all reason? Do you feel this impulse to abandon reason when you see "your orange god"? I'm also curious in general: Is there any point in the eradication of White people that it will cease to be a conspiracy theory and that the pushback of those White people will not dismissively be called "white supremacy"? To the psychosis leftist, probably there is no point. The all-too-frequent fallback position is the admission from the left that they think White people deserve it. Celebration Parallax is undefeated left-wing psyche predictor.
Forwyn Member	Wed Dec 06 14:44:49 "Mothers used to undergo multiple pregbancies, which was exhausting and dangerous, unlike the coal-mining and fishery jobs their husbands had. Therefore, we should tell girls horror stories about pregnancy and child-rearing, so that they can make the 'choice' to forego motherhood in favor of the boss bitch/chasing the bag mentality and work for their corporate overlords instead. We will just import more uneducated immigrants to have our children for us, enjoy the double whammy of wage stagnation"
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Dec 06 15:50:10 CC "that it is not just ignorance of simple truths that drives them to select a dysfunctional ideology but malicious and overt evil." Not many explanations there to dig for. You have heard of the concept "strategic essentialism", wild idea, to engage in the very thing you wish to destroy, no way that can wrong eh? No way for racism to escape the strategic scope and get a life of it own. Your observation aligns with mine, given that I have repeatedly been caught holding the wrong opinions for my "skin color" :)
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Dec 07 05:01:36 [Forewyn]: "so that they can make the 'choice' to forego motherhood" your comment ftw Funny how the "choices" the left always offers are those where the "correct" choice is annihilation. That "Brave New World" theme of being offered an easy path into slavery is relevant. The people flooding into the West don't even comprehend that kind of choice. They just see a soft target to conquer. [Nim]: "No way for racism to escape the strategic scope and get a life of it own." Exactly. "The revolution eats its children." They don't get to just help their oligarchs achieve power and afterwards become moral. The logic of "The end justifies the means" can only corrupt the end. And chastising people for not automatically (due to some inherent characteristic such as race or sex) joining an army of resentful destroyers only works when those people are willing to be convinced to be enslaved at the end of it. That's all a slave revolt can offer. ("[Oh! I'll get to have free and easy abortions as a slave!]") Seb, wtb, and now Patom will make that absurd "black face of white supremacy" argument in earnest, but it's only designed to stoke entry into an immoral coalition of resentment. David Pakman tried that same thing against Ramaswamy, all but saying, "You know, brown man, if you join the revolt, we'll pronounce your name correctly before completely discarding you as just another number in a collectivist suicide." Those racialist arguments fall flat when the "ask" of the con is to open the castle gates for destroyers. It's a far better argument to champion nobility and to only ask that your allies recognize the unconquerable spirit within themselves by which they can inherit the world through their own eternal works.
patom Member	Thu Dec 07 05:35:07 Funny you mention choice. Who on the left is condemning any women for having lots of children? Who on the left is proposing laws that take a woman's right to choose whether to have as many as possible or none at all? You seem to have it in your head that the only people who have a choice are you and your fellow Neocons who deem it your responsibility to make the choices for all others.
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Dec 07 06:44:23 [patom]: "Who on the left is condemning any women for having lots of children?" Wow, you only want one example? AOC: "“And it does lead, I think, young people to have a legitimate question, you know, ‘Is it okay to still have children?’”" http://nyp...ns-we-should-stop-having-kids/ [patom]: "Who on the left is proposing laws that take a woman's right to choose" Just as I was overtly mocking the left's false use of "choice" in the "pro-choice" argument, patom uses the dialectic earnestly. Does patom just have boomer-brain? Like, he takes words and phrases such as "pro-choice"/"right to choose" and "Antifa" at face value? A response in meme format for reference: • "[Leftists] write their semantic contradiction into their very ideology. Do Hegelian "Masters" promote liberty? Of course not. Items such as "democracy", "universal/global human rights", and "choice" are mirages for corralling the droughty to deserts of slavery." http://twitter.com/CherubCow/status/1695633079287861352 • "For Bolsheviks, "our democracy" is Party Doctrine/Power; the total state's use of propaganda to control "mob rule" by culling citizen choices. Abortion fulfills this purpose of "democracy", allowing the Party to direct its eugenics program while claiming a granting of rights." • "A similar strategy is represented in the way “choice” is treated by the Regime regarding abortion. The short version is that collectivist oligarchs are not actually interested in choice as choice is antithetical to the collectivist’s aversion to individual freedom; truly, when Regime collectivists say, “choice,” they mean, “compliance with the Regime and annihilation”." http://cherubcow.substack.com/p/the-house-oversight-committee-discovers In other words, the most glaringly obvious proof that the DNC is lying when saying they're "pro-choice" (in its literal sense, not the DNC's "pro-abortion"/"pro-dygenics" meaning) and for "a woman's right to choose" is that they are entirely against liberty. They are against choice. They are for compliance. Compare this to true choice during the pandemic. Were they for choice then? Of fucking course not. The most psychotic leftists were all 100% for compliance (get the shot) or annihilation (e.g., total loss of livelihood). These psychosis leftists are so completely invested in this total deprivation of choice that even now — after so much evidence has been born out — they would positively insist that anyone who did not get a shot is a terrible person. There is zero respect for choice in that. The left is not pro-choice in its literal sense. And is the right for "a woman's right to choose"? In the literal sense, yes. This is because the right is capable of 2nd order thinking and morality. The left believes that "choice" only occurs when you've failed at your entire life and are suddenly pregnant with some deviant's one-night-stand child. The right recognizes a thousand choices which led to the one-night-stand — a thousand chances to be virtuous before the consequences of your own actions brought you to a situation that affects more than just yourself. And even then, the left's only "choice" is to suspend virtue even further — to again "choose" the destruction of the self through the destruction of one's offspring. And the state smiles at the left for making this "choice" (this aversion towards accountability). So strange that "choice" to the left only means obedience! These are not the workings of a moral people. This is the morality of destroyers.
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Dec 07 06:44:57 forgot to lol at this: lol: "your fellow Neocons"
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Dec 07 11:00:25 CC "Does patom just have boomer-brain?" The few interactions I have had with Patom seems to suggest he is in the late stages of Sebgul's syndrome.
Rugian Member	Thu Dec 07 11:02:27 This thread . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE RAILS
Cherub Cow Member	Fri Dec 08 05:38:55 No we stayed on the rails. :p One-sentence summary: Patom thinks that Civil Rights Law is "good", and as a direct consequence of this flawed ideology, through the left's creation of "protected classes" he believes that the ethnic cleansing of White people (an unprotected class) is also "good", as is the killing of unborn children (an unprotected class), since the left is an Enslavement/Death Cult. The oil field here is dry, but for more updates, see tw's TDS/Enslavement/Death Cult threads. He's flying through #40 right now. [Nim]: "Sebgul's syndrome." It afflicts so many. :'( Good night, sweet Sebgul princes. Keep drinking Folgers coffee (keep the can for your future urn) and telling yourself that the migrants designed to replace you as a client group are just as much citizens as you are and that you came in just as easily. Yellowstone meme: "I reckon that there piece of paper you got stamped at the border 5 minutes ago gives you just as much of a right to this country as anyone else. Bengali, Indian, Chinese — we're all leftist client groups together." large explosion plot of "Brazil" continues
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Habebe Member	Sat Dec 09 16:31:43 I just wanted to let you know, I'm winning streak, I won so many prizes on Temu, I may bankruptcy the nation of China. Even they said they can't believe luck.
Habebe Member	Sat Dec 09 17:10:59 My hands are bad at typing, lots of calluses, clearing trees and laying a new roof and floor in two sheds.
obaminated Member	Sat Dec 09 18:06:21 It's hard to stay patient with patom. He clearly is an idiot with borderline insane political beliefs but we sorta handle him with kiddie gloves because he is old and probably not fully aware of how damaging, short sighted and frankly immature (irony) his positions are.
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