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williamthebastard
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Wed Dec 20 14:03:10 2023
Time to do something about all the dangerous lies coming from that wet, bloated, perverted, little larper

http://ele...despite-autopilot-claim-lying/

williamthebastard
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Wed Dec 20 14:04:02 2023
Far more accidents than any other car brand
williamthebastard
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Wed Dec 20 14:05:47 2023
* one look at that weird gothic ex-wife tells you he's into weird perversions
murder
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Wed Dec 20 14:33:37 2023

You mean conducting a live test on a self-driving feature on crowded streets results in accidents and deaths?

That's hard to believe. ;o)

murder
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Wed Dec 20 14:35:00 2023

Not wife ... baby mama.

Nimatzo
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Wed Dec 20 14:43:50 2023
You are so stupid. This is a study on how bad the drivers are. Basic knowledge about population study would tell you that people are not assigned car brands randomly, it is a choice they make, and other studies have shown, that different car brands has some overlap with personality traits. Tesla owners are some of the worst *drivers*. You can't tell anything about how dangerous the car is based on raw accident figure, something obvious from cursory reading of the actual study, not this tweet sizes summary. You tiktok brained imbecile.

For the most *dangerous car*, you need to get figures on fatality and physical harm, where the operator isn't at fault or the expected safety futures didn't work or work well enough.

Jesus christ, you don't even understand words, do you? And your job is to translate, right?
Nimatzo
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Wed Dec 20 14:48:20 2023
features*
murder
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Wed Dec 20 15:04:18 2023

You can't eliminate operator error when the company is encouraging operator error.

Nimatzo
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Wed Dec 20 15:27:29 2023
Then how do you know the encouragement has an effect? And if true, has no relevance for what I said.
Sam Adams
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Wed Dec 20 20:00:24 2023
For the insurance claim method you have to take into account that they are expensive and often driven by asian women in cities(part of the west coast high income crowd)... all driving up the insurance claim rate.

A much better set of stats is fatalities per hour or mile. Thats what really matters and removes the price/insurance variable.
Sam Adams
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Wed Dec 20 20:08:26 2023
Glancing over the fatality stats for expensive mid-sized cars, tesla is not noticably different.

Thus i would conclude that teslas autopilot at this point in its development does not provide any major safety advantage or disadvantage.
Sam Adams
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Wed Dec 20 20:13:55 2023
The most dangerous cars are very clearly your sports cars and your very small cars, and also the redneck giant trucks for killing other vehicles.

Simply put, mass is the single most important variable. Dont be in a small car and dont get hit by a large car.
obaminated
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Wed Dec 20 20:17:34 2023
Isn't it about that time for fagfish, well into his 30s at this point, to have a meltdown and disappear?

As a guy who has dealt with a girlfriend committing suicide, fagfish, I suggest you find a rope and a chandelier.
Nimatzo
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Wed Dec 20 22:32:23 2023
He's in his 50's at least.
williamthebastard
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Thu Dec 21 18:42:44 2023
"Thus i would conclude that teslas autopilot at this point in its development does not provide any major safety advantage or disadvantage."

It naturally provides no advantage at all, since it is lethal without a driver checking it all the time
williamthebastard
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Thu Dec 21 18:43:59 2023
It might help people who have trouble holding the steering wheel constantly, thats about it. Stupid, stupid, little musklings
williamthebastard
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Thu Dec 21 18:50:44 2023
And his lies that the tesla is 10% safer than any other car is an obvious disadvantage, since slow-witted musklings and nimatzians believe him, take their hands off their wheel and their eyes off the road and die
williamthebastard
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Thu Dec 21 18:54:37 2023
another disadvantage is, of course, that by lying, he has received billions of dollars of public money by several governments so that he could hoard it all in his own bank account
Nimatzo
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Thu Dec 21 19:04:52 2023
You probably don't understand how cars work because you ride on your gay electric scooter. Cars are not *lethal* (another word you clearly do not understand) because you let go of the steering wheel and crash into things. With or without self-driving. In fact the overwhelming majority of car crashes are not lethal. Most of them because they take place at a low velocity, aided by seat belts, deformation zones and airbags.

How is this possible WTB? You swear people pay you because you can read and understand words.
Nimatzo
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Thu Dec 21 19:17:13 2023
"nimatzians believe him"

He is full of shit and lies about everything, I will grant you everything you want, it changes nothing. This is way above your head and it is very very basic. The data does not show what you are suggesting. Car accidents don't work like you are hallucinating. Maybe there is data out there that does supports your theory, though I doubt it, most modern cars are very safe and the big factors are the mass of the car and speed of collision. As was explained for you.
Nimatzo
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Thu Dec 21 19:18:53 2023
People who like driving, are presumably better at driving than those that don't. If you like driving, you are probably not in the market for a car that will drive for you.
williamthebastard
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Thu Dec 21 19:27:46 2023
Sorry, he didnt lie they were 10% safer but 10 times safer, 100% safer, i.e. a much bigger lethal lie

Tesla says a car on Autopilot is almost 10 times less likely to crash than the average vehicle.
But the carmaker's statistics lack context and have some fundamental flaws, two experts said.

Tesla Has The Highest Accident Rate Of Any Auto Brand
What a missed opportunity,” said Matthew Wansley, a professor at the Cardozo School of Law in New York.
“I have yet to see Tesla, or anyone defending Tesla, come up with an argument for why we should be letting people use [Autopilot] on roads that could have cross traffic. That’s how a lot of these crashes are happening.”


Tesla’s Driver Fatality Rate is more than Triple that of Luxury Cars (and likely even higher)
williamthebastard
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Thu Dec 21 19:30:29 2023
Also needs the most repairs of all brands of electric cars

http://www.elbil24.no/nyheter/elbiler-bulker-mest/71498210
williamthebastard
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Thu Dec 21 19:33:57 2023
Thats fun. Elons deadly lies are all based on traffic in one single setting - massive motorways where you drive in a straight line. Jail this sociopath.
Sam Adams
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Thu Dec 21 19:40:23 2023
"Tesla’s Driver Fatality Rate is more than Triple that of Luxury Cars (and likely even higher)"

This is not correct. Tesla is about the same as other luxury brands in US fatality stats.
williamthebastard
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Thu Dec 21 19:40:39 2023
We need a trillion people because that will create more Mozarts! Of course, millions more people will also suffer and die while his tiny, incredibly privileged class gets to focus on producing Mozarts, but thats just the sad side of nature, so go Nature Boy Elon! People are all just numbers in the bigger scheme of things, when you think about it.
Nimatzo
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Thu Dec 21 19:40:51 2023
Because freeway accidents, while not as frequent are far more deadly.

Do you want to guess why?
williamthebastard
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Thu Dec 21 19:42:08 2023
Tesla’s Driver Fatality Rate is more than Triple that of Luxury Cars (

http://med...ikely-even-higher-433670ddde17
williamthebastard
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Thu Dec 21 19:52:52 2023
No wonder the richest man on earth's kids are changing their surnames, despite losing the biggest inheritance in history in doing so. We'll hear a lot more perversions once the youngest kids have grown up
Nimatzo
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Thu Dec 21 20:20:57 2023
I love how quickly these threads collapse to reveal what the issue is really about. Waaaa Musk!
williamthebastard
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Thu Dec 21 20:29:32 2023
I never read you, Nimatzo. I browse the names, not the posts. I can gain no new knowledge from you, you only have thoughts I believed in my early teen years, so reading your posts would be like reading my posts as a 13/14 year old. This gives me nothing useful and I only like reading useful thinkers.
Nimatzo
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Thu Dec 21 20:39:38 2023
“I browse the names, not the posts“

I am shocked that you select what information to take in, based on who is saying it, rather than what they are saying. SHOCKED! You wantering totem of logical fallacies and intellectual bakruptcy.

williamthebastard
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Thu Dec 21 20:45:38 2023

“so reading your posts would be like reading my posts as a 13/14 year old. This gives me nothing useful”

apart from reminding me to never stagnate at a primitive level, that the responsibility of members of the human species that want us to advance as a species must never stop maturing morally and intellectually in our childhood years, because then we become primitive nimatzian tribalist
Nimatzo
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Thu Dec 21 20:56:20 2023
I have transcended the need to understand the basic things about the topic I have opinions on.
-WTB

obaminated
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Thu Dec 21 21:05:24 2023
Jesus fagfish fell apart quickly.

Obviously auto driving cars will be the future and tesla is leading that charge. Humans get drunk, stoned or whatever other intoxication and go driving.

I'm not comfortable with self driving cars yet for the sole purpose I don't trust technology. If my phone can drop a signal what can my auto driving car going 65 down the freeway do when it loses its signal for a couple seconds.

But auto driving cars will be the future and it will ultimately be safer. Fagfish is just being the idiot he has always been by opposing what is clearly coming.
Nimatzo
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Fri Dec 22 12:21:52 2023
Did you see how he told me he doesn't read what I write? Sick buuurn!

This thread is obviously a strong candidate for WTB's greatest hits collection.
Sam Adams
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Sat Dec 23 19:34:46 2023
Lol medium.com

Here are the actual stats from the highway safety group
http://www...-death-rates-by-make-and-model

The various teslas are scattered about the luxury rankings and are very clearly near the mean overall when compared with other expensive cars(safer than the average car).
Nimatzo
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Sun Dec 24 13:06:04 2023
Such a cutie, he tells me he doesn't read my posts, but somehow he managed to find a new link for a blog post (lol) on fatality, after I was explained to him his error.

Merry Christmas you filthy animal.

And a happy new year.
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