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murder
Member Fri Apr 05 16:43:09
House to vote on rebuking Biden's call for Gaza ceasefire

The House is scheduled to vote next week on a measure slamming President Biden for advocating an "immediate ceasefire" in Gaza in a call with Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Thursday.

Why it matters: The vote threatens to resurface the stark divisions between the pro-Israel and pro-Palestinian factions of the House Democratic caucus.

* It's the latest in a series of Israel-related wedge votes House Republicans have held since Hamas' Oct. 7 attack.

Driving the news: The three-page measure denounces "efforts to place one-sided pressure on Israel with respect to Gaza."

* It cites a White House readout of Biden's call with Netanyahu, which said Biden ''underscored that an immediate ceasefire is essential to stabilize and improve the humanitarian situation and protect innocent civilians."

* The measure also declares opposition to a U.N. Security Council resolution passed last month calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, which the U.S. abstained on rather than vetoed.

Between the lines: The measure is being brought up before the House Rules Committee, which means it will likely come to the floor under a process in which it will require only a simple majority to pass.

http://www...ouse-vote-biden-gaza-ceasefire

murder
Member Fri Apr 05 16:44:05

Can't say that he doesn't have it coming. He demands a ceasefire from Israel, but doesn't demand that Gazans remove Hamas from power.

Im better then you
2012 UP Football Champ Fri Apr 05 16:59:31
How dare they vote wrong that one time in 2006!

murder
Member Fri Apr 05 17:37:07

So why haven't they corrected their error?

Paramount
Member Sat Apr 06 06:24:24
” The House is scheduled to vote next week on a measure slamming President Biden for advocating an "immediate ceasefire" in Gaza i”

The House? Don’t they mean The Israel Lobby?

murder
Member Sat Apr 06 08:32:44

Same same :o)

patom
Member Sat Apr 06 10:26:59
House Republicans are now demanding that the ship owners that took down the bridge in Baltimore pay for all repairs.
Biden made the mistake of thinking that these Republicans care about our ports more than trying to make Biden look ineffectual.

Rugian
Member Sat Apr 06 11:22:33
The government is $35 trillion in debt and patom thinks that it should still be throwing massive amounts of money at shit that OTHER PEOPLE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING FOR.

Jesus Christ. Liberals are completely incompetent when it comes to monetary or fiscal policy.

patom
Member Sat Apr 06 11:36:36
Rugian thinks that we should leave the port of Baltimore closed while the courts haggle out what or who is responsible and who will pay. In the mean time thousands of people will be out of work collecting unemployment. God knows how many businesses will close that depend on that port.

Nobody seems willing to take responsibility for the piss poor design that didn't have fenders to prevent any ships from taking down the bridge in a scenario like this one.

Rugian
Member Sat Apr 06 11:44:15
patom

The Port of Baltimore can be reopened without rebuilding the bridge.

In fact, it's scheduled to begin reopening by the end of this month.

Rugian
Member Sat Apr 06 11:44:20
http://www...f-april-officials-say-00150714

obaminated
Member Sat Apr 06 12:51:31
Tom has a very bad habit of attacking republicans over an issue without knowing any information.

patom
Member Sat Apr 06 12:54:01
So your solution is what? I have a feeling you have no clue what the traffic is like in the Baltimore-Washington metro areas is like. That bridge is vital to the area.

murder
Member Sat Apr 06 12:59:44

This same shit happens every time there's a disaster in a blue state. Every single time.

obaminated
Member Sat Apr 06 13:00:15
So now you've gone from claiming the port is being kept shut because of Republicans to complaining about traffic. Okay Tom. Why should the federal government pay for the bridge instead of the company that owns the boat that crashed into the bridge?

obaminated
Member Sat Apr 06 13:00:15
So now you've gone from claiming the port is being kept shut because of Republicans to complaining about traffic. Okay Tom. Why should the federal government pay for the bridge instead of the company that owns the boat that crashed into the bridge?

patom
Member Sat Apr 06 21:38:08
obaminated. Who pays for it shouldn't be a factor. It should be how quickly they get the bridge replaced and when they do design it so that a situation like this can't recur.
The idiot Republicans only care to fuck over Biden and the city of Baltimore and the thousands who depend on the functionality of that port.

obaminated
Member Sun Apr 07 01:08:37
Once again Tom, the port is functional. You need to research topics before you talk about them.

patom
Member Sun Apr 07 04:59:22
obaminated, Once again how many businesses and workers are effected by the loss of that bridge?

obaminated
Member Sun Apr 07 09:06:09
Is it the bridge or the port tom? Pick one. I am very confident that the port is far more important than that bridge. Yes. People will suffer. A bad thing happened. The people responsible will be held accountability to fix what they did.

patom
Member Sun Apr 07 10:37:40
It's both dummy.

murder
Member Sun Apr 07 12:27:02

"The people responsible will be held accountability to fix what they did."

Costs can be recovered later.

Rugian
Member Sun Apr 07 12:33:49
"Costs can be recovered later."

This sort of mentality is exactly what led to the public debt going from less than $1 trillion in 1981 to $35 trillion today.

Spend today, worry about the cost of it tomorrow.

murder
Member Sun Apr 07 13:50:10

Yeah ... because infrastructure is vital.

Rugian
Member Sun Apr 07 14:20:12
Fine. So find $2 billion in the federal budget that can be cut to fund this bridge instead.

Rugian
Member Sun Apr 07 14:22:08
Also, calling this particular bridge "vital" infrastructure might be a bit of an overstatement.

http://bmc...b90bda95ac4dab83daddb8befd2f44

obaminated
Member Sun Apr 07 16:19:07
Yeah, it's more a convenience thing. Again, no reason to not have the responsible party deal with rebuilding the bridge.

The port is what matters and the port will be functional once the debris is clear.

murder
Member Sun Apr 07 18:24:09

"Fine. So find $2 billion in the federal budget that can be cut to fund this bridge instead."

That's no challenge at all. Just zero out the budget for the Texas National Guard.

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murder Member	Fri Apr 05 16:43:09 House to vote on rebuking Biden's call for Gaza ceasefire The House is scheduled to vote next week on a measure slamming President Biden for advocating an "immediate ceasefire" in Gaza in a call with Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Thursday. Why it matters: The vote threatens to resurface the stark divisions between the pro-Israel and pro-Palestinian factions of the House Democratic caucus. * It's the latest in a series of Israel-related wedge votes House Republicans have held since Hamas' Oct. 7 attack. Driving the news: The three-page measure denounces "efforts to place one-sided pressure on Israel with respect to Gaza." * It cites a White House readout of Biden's call with Netanyahu, which said Biden ''underscored that an immediate ceasefire is essential to stabilize and improve the humanitarian situation and protect innocent civilians." * The measure also declares opposition to a U.N. Security Council resolution passed last month calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, which the U.S. abstained on rather than vetoed. Between the lines: The measure is being brought up before the House Rules Committee, which means it will likely come to the floor under a process in which it will require only a simple majority to pass. http://www...ouse-vote-biden-gaza-ceasefire
murder Member	Fri Apr 05 16:44:05 Can't say that he doesn't have it coming. He demands a ceasefire from Israel, but doesn't demand that Gazans remove Hamas from power.
Im better then you 2012 UP Football Champ	Fri Apr 05 16:59:31 How dare they vote wrong that one time in 2006!
murder Member	Fri Apr 05 17:37:07 So why haven't they corrected their error?
Paramount Member	Sat Apr 06 06:24:24 ” The House is scheduled to vote next week on a measure slamming President Biden for advocating an "immediate ceasefire" in Gaza i” The House? Don’t they mean The Israel Lobby?
murder Member	Sat Apr 06 08:32:44 Same same :o)
patom Member	Sat Apr 06 10:26:59 House Republicans are now demanding that the ship owners that took down the bridge in Baltimore pay for all repairs. Biden made the mistake of thinking that these Republicans care about our ports more than trying to make Biden look ineffectual.
Rugian Member	Sat Apr 06 11:22:33 The government is $35 trillion in debt and patom thinks that it should still be throwing massive amounts of money at shit that OTHER PEOPLE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING FOR. Jesus Christ. Liberals are completely incompetent when it comes to monetary or fiscal policy.
patom Member	Sat Apr 06 11:36:36 Rugian thinks that we should leave the port of Baltimore closed while the courts haggle out what or who is responsible and who will pay. In the mean time thousands of people will be out of work collecting unemployment. God knows how many businesses will close that depend on that port. Nobody seems willing to take responsibility for the piss poor design that didn't have fenders to prevent any ships from taking down the bridge in a scenario like this one.
Rugian Member	Sat Apr 06 11:44:15 patom The Port of Baltimore can be reopened without rebuilding the bridge. In fact, it's scheduled to begin reopening by the end of this month.
Rugian Member	Sat Apr 06 11:44:20 http://www...f-april-officials-say-00150714
obaminated Member	Sat Apr 06 12:51:31 Tom has a very bad habit of attacking republicans over an issue without knowing any information.
patom Member	Sat Apr 06 12:54:01 So your solution is what? I have a feeling you have no clue what the traffic is like in the Baltimore-Washington metro areas is like. That bridge is vital to the area.
murder Member	Sat Apr 06 12:59:44 This same shit happens every time there's a disaster in a blue state. Every single time.
obaminated Member	Sat Apr 06 13:00:15 So now you've gone from claiming the port is being kept shut because of Republicans to complaining about traffic. Okay Tom. Why should the federal government pay for the bridge instead of the company that owns the boat that crashed into the bridge?
obaminated Member	Sat Apr 06 13:00:15 So now you've gone from claiming the port is being kept shut because of Republicans to complaining about traffic. Okay Tom. Why should the federal government pay for the bridge instead of the company that owns the boat that crashed into the bridge?
patom Member	Sat Apr 06 21:38:08 obaminated. Who pays for it shouldn't be a factor. It should be how quickly they get the bridge replaced and when they do design it so that a situation like this can't recur. The idiot Republicans only care to fuck over Biden and the city of Baltimore and the thousands who depend on the functionality of that port.
obaminated Member	Sun Apr 07 01:08:37 Once again Tom, the port is functional. You need to research topics before you talk about them.
patom Member	Sun Apr 07 04:59:22 obaminated, Once again how many businesses and workers are effected by the loss of that bridge?
obaminated Member	Sun Apr 07 09:06:09 Is it the bridge or the port tom? Pick one. I am very confident that the port is far more important than that bridge. Yes. People will suffer. A bad thing happened. The people responsible will be held accountability to fix what they did.
patom Member	Sun Apr 07 10:37:40 It's both dummy.
murder Member	Sun Apr 07 12:27:02 "The people responsible will be held accountability to fix what they did." Costs can be recovered later.
Rugian Member	Sun Apr 07 12:33:49 "Costs can be recovered later." This sort of mentality is exactly what led to the public debt going from less than $1 trillion in 1981 to $35 trillion today. Spend today, worry about the cost of it tomorrow.
murder Member	Sun Apr 07 13:50:10 Yeah ... because infrastructure is vital.
Rugian Member	Sun Apr 07 14:20:12 Fine. So find $2 billion in the federal budget that can be cut to fund this bridge instead.
Rugian Member	Sun Apr 07 14:22:08 Also, calling this particular bridge "vital" infrastructure might be a bit of an overstatement. http://bmc...b90bda95ac4dab83daddb8befd2f44
obaminated Member	Sun Apr 07 16:19:07 Yeah, it's more a convenience thing. Again, no reason to not have the responsible party deal with rebuilding the bridge. The port is what matters and the port will be functional once the debris is clear.
murder Member	Sun Apr 07 18:24:09 "Fine. So find $2 billion in the federal budget that can be cut to fund this bridge instead." That's no challenge at all. Just zero out the budget for the Texas National Guard.
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