Utopia Talk / Politics / Mexico vs Ecuador: Fight! Fight! Fight!

murder Member	Sat Apr 06 08:42:17 Mexico is breaking diplomatic ties with Ecuador after police stormed the embassy in Quito QUITO, Ecuador (AP) — The Mexican president has quickly moved to break off diplomatic ties with Ecuador after police broke into the Mexican Embassy to arrest a former Ecuadorian vice president who had sought political asylum there after being indicted on corruption charges. Andrés Manuel López Obrador made the announcement Friday evening after Ecuadorian police forced their way into the embassy in the capital, Quito, to arrest Jorge Glas who has been residing there since December. Glas, arguably the most wanted man in Ecuador, has been convicted on bribery and corruption charges and Ecuadorian authorities are still investigating more allegations against him. Police broke through the external doors of the Mexican diplomatic headquarters in the Ecuadorian capital and entered the main patio to get Glas. “This is not possible. It cannot be. This is crazy,” Roberto Canseco, head of the Mexican consular section in Quito, told local press while standing outside the embassy. “I am very worried because they could kill him. There is no basis to do this. This is totally outside the norm.” Defending its decision, Ecuador’s presidency said in a statement: “Ecuador is a sovereign nation and we are not going to allow any criminal to stay free.” López Obrador fired back, calling Glas’ detention an “authoritarian act” and “a flagrant violation of international law and the sovereignty of Mexico.” Alicia Bárcena, Mexico’s secretary of foreign relations, posted on the social platform X that a number of diplomats suffered injuries during the break-in, adding that it violated the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations. Diplomatic premises are considered “inviolable” under the Vienna treaties and local law enforcement agencies are not allowed to enter without the permission of the ambassador. WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange lived inside the Ecuadorian Embassy in London for seven years because British police could not enter to arrest him. Bárcena said that Mexico would take the case to the International Court of Justice “to denounce Ecuador’s responsibility for violations of international law.” She also said Mexican diplomats were only waiting for the Ecuadorian government to offer the necessary guarantees for their return home. Ecuador’s Foreign Ministry and Ecuador’s Ministry of the Interior did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The Mexican Embassy in Quito remained under heavy police guard late Friday. A day earlier, tensions between the two countries escalated after Mexico’s president made statements that Ecuador considered “very unfortunate” about last year’s election, won by Ecuadorian President Daniel Noboa. In reaction, the Ecuadorian government declared the Mexican ambassador persona non grata. http://apn...5aa3a638b54fdfa3474c8ee25ca57e
Rugian Member	Sat Apr 06 09:33:48 So let me get the timeline right: - AMLO talks some shit about the Ecuadorian election - Ecuador declares the Mexican ambassador persona non grata and orders her to leave the country - Mexico offers asylum to the guy convicted of corruption that they had been sheltering in their embassy - Ecuador breaks into the embassy and arrests corrupt guy Ecuador's obviously in the wrong here, but looks like Mexico provoked them pretty hard first.
Rugian Member	Sat Apr 06 09:34:52 Anyway, here's hoping war breaks out and Ecuador destroys the Mexican-American supply chain right before the election.
murder Member	Sat Apr 06 11:51:41 I don't think we have to worry about it. Neither country is capable of projecting force far from their own territory.
Rugian Member	Sat Apr 06 12:09:04 If the Ukraine conflict has taught us anything, it only takes a few grand to buy a drone and make your force projection global.
obaminated Member	Sat Apr 06 12:31:30 When's the last time we saw a proper war in South America?
Rugian Member	Sat Apr 06 12:39:03 Not counting civil wars? Probably when Paraguay and Bolivia went at it in the 1930s. Venezuela could very well invade Guyana at any time though, so...fingers crossed?
obaminated Member	Sat Apr 06 12:53:29 Yeah, a regional war in South America involving a several countries would be interesting.
obaminated Member	Sat Apr 06 12:54:14 Unfortunately that would cause even more illegals to flood into our country and they'd be able to apply for asylum
murder Member	Sat Apr 06 13:11:07 "If the Ukraine conflict has taught us anything, it only takes a few grand to buy a drone and make your force projection global." They are > 1200 miles apart. Drones that can operate at those distances are considerably more expensive.
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