Utopia Talk / Politics / How to instantly kill your VP chances

Rugian Member	Mon Apr 29 12:22:17 South Dakota Republican Gov. Kristi Noem has “no shot” at being Donald Trump’s running mate after revealing in a forthcoming book that she shot and killed her puppy, sources close to the 45th president tell The Post. One ally of the presumptive Republican nominee said Trump’s team was “bewildered” to hear of Noem’s account in her tome “No Going Back: The Truth on What’s Wrong with Politics and How We Move America Forward.” “She was already unlikely to be picked as VP, but had a shot,” the person said of Noem, who has been widely projected to be on Trump’s shortlist. Noem writes, according to the Guardian, that she executed Cricket, a 14-month-old wirehaired pointer, after determining that the pooch’s “aggressive personality” made her “untrainable” as a hunting dog. “It was not a pleasant job,” the 52-year-old recounts, “but it had to be done.” The source who spoke to The Post noted that 2012 Republican nominee Mitt Romney is still remembered for sticking his dog in a crate set on top of the family’s station wagon for a 1983 trip from Boston to Canada. “Trump isn’t a dog person necessarily,” this person said, “but I think he understands that you can’t choose a puppy killer as your pick, for blatantly obvious reasons.” http://nyp...y-killing-controversy-sources/
kargen Member	Mon Apr 29 15:54:28 A person in another forum I visit is saying because of this South Dakota will go blue and never elect a Republican for anything ever again. My thinking is if she isn't primaried she gets reelected and this does nothing to help Democrats in the state.
obaminated Member	Mon Apr 29 21:25:05 It's funny how making grown up decisions in a rough world is looked down upon. The dog was aggressive. She put it down. This is what adults do.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Apr 29 22:15:50 maybe she needs money to fund a drug habit & put the story in to sell more books (as she also did weird shilling for a TX dentist)... or maybe wanted to impress dog-hating Trump (who also likes shilling for anything to get $ no matter how inappropriate) anyway, Noem didn't have the undying loyalty of treasonous lying women like Elise Stefanik, Kari Lake, or Marjorie Greene so i doubt Noem was likely to get picked
CHINA RULZ USA SUCKS Member	Mon Apr 29 22:27:32 YUMY DOGS YUMY
jergul large member	Tue Apr 30 04:53:01 Adults take pets to the vet. Putting down your own dog is 1980s at the latest.
patom Member	Tue Apr 30 06:07:20 Donald will be missing a great VP if he doesn't pick Noem. Hell she's perfect. She's willing to do the nasty dirty work that Trump always gets someone else to do. If she then becomes a liability it'll be like water running off a ducks back when he throws her under the bus.
obaminated Member	Tue Apr 30 07:07:03 Honestly putting it down herself is more humane and I'm speaking to jergul specifically. If you give it to a vet he/she will take it to the pound where it will sit in a cage for about 2 weeks before being killed. At least this way the dog didn't suffer confusion about its owner or where it was. It was simply put down.
jergul large member	Tue Apr 30 07:40:50 A quick google shows that despite posters here, the US is a developed nation. Take dog to vet It is injected with a death row mix You can hold its paw as it falls to sleep, Then dies. Pay bill
murder Member	Tue Apr 30 09:03:02 I don't understand the uproar. She gave the dog 14 months to get its shit together.
murder Member	Tue Apr 30 09:35:14 "A person in another forum I visit is saying because of this South Dakota will go blue and never elect a Republican for anything ever again. My thinking is if she isn't primaried she gets reelected and this does nothing to help Democrats in the state." I don't see how this affects the party at all unless it comes out in defense of puppy killing.
murder Member	Tue Apr 30 09:37:51 Kristi Noem's property contains a mass grave full of loved ones who disappointed her.
Rugian Member	Tue Apr 30 09:46:34 Obaminated Like it or not, suburban white women exist. And good luck talking them into not hating a puppy killer. She would have been better off killing an actual human being.
murder Member	Tue Apr 30 10:16:30 It's not just suburban white women. Fewer and fewer people see dogs as just another animal on the farm or ranch, and more like a member of the family, even in rural areas. And the only thing that people like more than dogs is puppies.
patom Member	Tue Apr 30 11:56:25 Kristi always wanted a 'Bird Dog'. She gave it a year and some months to learn how to fly. Threw it up in the air and it still didn't fly. So she shot it.
kargen Member	Tue Apr 30 16:43:22 "Adults take pets to the vet. Putting down your own dog is 1980s at the latest." Nearest vet for ranchers/farmers in my area could be over an hours drive away. Vets in rural areas spend very little time in their clinic/office and are instead usually out in a field or pasture helping to save livestock sometimes worth thousands of dollars. Why bother the vet when the end will be the same? If you have an aggressive dog you take care of it one way or another. No matter the way the result is the same. You can't put an aggressive dog up for adoption because of liability issues. I see lots of people saying she should have taken the dog to a shelter. The shelter would as obominated said keep the dog for a short period of time isolated in a cage then put it down.
murder Member	Tue Apr 30 17:06:30 It was a puppy.
kargen Member	Tue Apr 30 21:20:19 yeah, at 14 months probably still a puppy. A puppy that kills chickens and bites people. Well, used to kill chickens and bite people.
Dukhat Member	Wed May 01 01:06:43 Killing chickens is built into them. Biting people is something that can be trained out. Only in pitbulls is the aggression sometimes too strong to train out. Too lazy to fucking spend time trainign a puppy so she shot it. Fucking moron. Her parents should have shot her as a kid for being an idiot but they were probably morons themselves.
jergul large member	Wed May 01 01:26:27 Kargen Why do I get the feeling I am the only one who has been along to put down an unruly dog back in, you guessed it, the early 80s. You take it to the vet because doing it yourself is fucking brutal. The animal trusts its handlers, has to be pegged down on its leash and damned well knows what a gun it. I would do it again to save any animal from immediate, unbearable hardship, but people should never have owned a dog in the first place if they cannot be inconvenienced to take a dog to the vet to be put down. Speaking of the woman who virtue signaled shooting a dog in a book. Seems to me she ruined the dog in the first place.
patom Member	Wed May 01 05:10:19 It surely makes one wonder why anyone writing a book about themselves would put in a part where she in a way boasts about killing her dog or her goat. Even if her ranch is an hour or so from the nearest Vet. in today's world rural vets actually travel to ranches in their large animal practices. It might have been an embarrassment to her that she didn't have the skill or patience to train a bird dog. Incidentally, I've been around many dogs in my life and have never once met a bird dog that was aggressive toward humans. Unless she trained it to be that way and was then stupid enough to think she could turn it on and off like an appliance.
murder Member	Wed May 01 08:14:55 "yeah, at 14 months probably still a puppy. A puppy that kills chickens and bites people. Well, used to kill chickens and bite people." Here's a crazy idea, don't let it near the chickens. And as far as it biting people ... it was a fucking puppy! Some people shouldn't be allowed to own animals or guns.
jergul large member	Wed May 01 09:18:01 If only the dog had a gun. The story is so blatantly self-incriminating that we forgot to ask if it is actually true. I am thinking probably not. More likely the politician thought a tough of dog stance furthered her career.
jergul large member	Wed May 01 09:18:16 tough on dog*
murder Member	Wed May 01 12:14:02 Probably, but I'm not going to give her the benefit of the doubt.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed May 01 12:47:09 she did it... it was an expendable worker, not a pet to her
Forwyn Member	Wed May 01 14:08:29 "Take dog to vet It is injected with a death row mix You can hold its paw as it falls to sleep, Then dies. Pay bill" Bullet Shovel The whims of retarded handwringing housewives and Cuckhats should be ignored. Repeal the 19th
murder Member	Wed May 01 14:57:52 "What's that boy? You want to go to the gravel pit?"
jergul large member	Wed May 01 15:23:14 Forwyn The whines of an ignorant American who has never actually killed a dog should be ignored. It is fucking brutal man. They know what guns are and they trust you. You shoot a tied up creature that trusts you and is whimpering with tail between legs try to bump your knees but for the leash. Psycopath much?
jergul large member	Wed May 01 15:24:44 That was unfair. Not psycopath. Just failure of imagination.
Forwyn Member	Wed May 01 17:15:48 LMAO I grew up on an Arkansas farm. I am not paying a vet $500 to do something I can and have done. Personal justification varies; I wouldn't do it over chickens and an attempted nip during chicken bloodbath. But I wasn't there.
Forwyn Member	Wed May 01 17:18:43 Pigs are worse, fyi
kargen Member	Wed May 01 17:26:57 We also don't know if the chicken killing mentioned was an isolated incident or the final straw in a long line of aggressive behavior. Also worth pointing out she had three young children (youngest was two) at the time and you don't want an aggressive dog around children. You could kennel the dog but that is just long term abuse.
jergul large member	Thu May 02 00:05:59 You have not put a dog down.
kargen Member	Thu May 02 00:59:08 you are wrong. Had to put down a really good black lab that was hit by a car. Funny thing (in odd way considering the topic) is the dog was given to us because the owner thought it couldn't be trained. Turned out he couldn't train dogs and probably shouldn't have owned one.
jergul large member	Thu May 02 01:17:17 I meant Forwyn. Putting down an animal enduring immediate and unbearable suffering is a different beast.
obaminated Member	Thu May 02 11:27:50 Jergul, do you eat meat?
jergul large member	Thu May 02 11:45:30 I eat whale and seal amongst others boyo.
jergul large member	Thu May 02 11:54:25 reindeer too. I picked up a couple dried and smoked reindeer hearts last week now that you brought it up :D.
obaminated Member	Thu May 02 14:02:21 Then you should stop being a bleeding heart. A dog is an animal. Seals are animals. Pigs are animals. Chickens are animals. She didn't torture her dog. She put her dog down.
murder Member	Thu May 02 16:55:39 "I grew up on an Arkansas farm. I am not paying a divorce lawyer $500 to do something I can and have done." -- Forwyn
kargen Member	Thu May 02 18:07:40 any time you can forego a lawyer that is just good common sense.
obaminated Member	Thu May 02 18:52:23 Look, forwyns wife was killing chickens and biting people. She had to be put down.
Forwyn Member	Thu May 02 22:56:50 "I meant Forwyn." I'll try to dig up the pics of my eldest getting stitches from Amy the Golden Retriever "Look, forwyns wife was killing chickens and biting people. She had to be put down." True. That's a hard line!
jergul large member	Fri May 03 03:22:50 Obam Gun statistics show how bad people are at putting down things. The practicalities of killing a dog make it a very messy affair that cause the animal unneeded suffering and pain. It has nothing to do with a bleeding heart (remember what I once did for a living), and a lot to do with ethics. Minimize the suffering of any animal that is to die. For household pets, this involves using a vet in most cases (hell, whale harvesting is done under vetranarian supervision on vessels, seals are taken down on the ice at range with high powered rifles, reindeer are slaughtered very carefully with a knife jab to the heart as stress hormons destroy the meat. It is one of the reasons reindeer are rounded up in pens twice a year. To teach them being flopped over by humans is not stressful or dangerous). So I call your bleeding heart and raise you one sentimentalist virtue signaller. You, and the politician in question are not 19th century farmers. Not matter what escapist dreams might want to tell you.
Forwyn Member	Fri May 03 08:22:25 Here you go, lulzgul http://imgur.com/a/ria7lwM http://imgur.com/a/Qy3BwQZ http://imgur.com/a/HNeUyRR A dog that does this to an 18-month old isn't getting rehomed, or taken to the vet. Maybe you want to minimize her suffering and hold her hand. I don't give a fuck
jergul large member	Fri May 03 12:13:45 Forwyn Was that your dog? If not, then shooting it is fine. Who knows what the hell the owner would decide to do.
obaminated Member	Fri May 03 12:41:33 Jergul, if you think dog going to a vet to be put down isn't panicking and having anxiety then you are either lying or have never done it. Dogs know what's happening. You either take accountability for it or you let someone else do it. I've put down two dogs. Both knew exactly what was happening. Also jergul, don't watch old yeller. I think it'd break you more than math does.
jergul large member	Fri May 03 13:49:20 Larping rugged individualism seems fun. Does it pay well?
Forwyn Member	Fri May 03 14:20:58 I married into the dog. It wasn't mine as a puppy.
obaminated Member	Fri May 03 16:55:59 Jergul sure does take offense to forwyn living on a rural farm. I wonder why....
jergul large member	Fri May 03 19:21:23 Obam First off. Forwyn claim to have lived in a rural farm once. Not that he is living in one now. Secondly. Where exactly do you think I live. I take offence to causing animal avoidable pain and suffering. And perhaps also to stupid virtue signaling. That sums up the level of my emotional engagement in this conversation.
Forwyn Member	Fri May 03 20:57:40 While I do still run 20ish chickens, I am neither rural or on a farm currently lol. Tenuous plans are forming with the brother...
obaminated Member	Fri May 03 21:56:48 Yeah when I posted that I realized I should've said homesteading but whateves.
jergul large member	Sat May 04 03:13:31 Obam An urban homestead? Do you not read what Forwyn wrote? Perhaps you should have said house with a yard, but whatever. I am happy for anyone who figures out how to pick up a home with some acres and commute in one way or another for income. For as long as they take their dog to the vet if required. Remember? Dogs and ethics? That is what we are talking about. Not my feelings on homesteading, tiny homes, or anthing anyone tries to do to break out of the ludicrous property inflation cycle.
obaminated Member	Sat May 04 04:37:17 I think we can conclude jergul tried to put down a dog and it took him 17 shots. Hence his clear ptsd. Let's not make fun of him for it.
patom Member	Sat May 04 04:45:30 I heard that they are doing a re-make of 101 dalmatians. The lead role will be Cruella with several pending actresses trying for the role. They are trying for Kristi Noem but as yet she hasn't committed because of her hopes to be playing Vice President.
murder Member	Sat May 04 11:10:58 It needs to be said that Kristi's looks have gone downhill since she started hooking up with Corey Lewandowski. It looks like he's melting her face.
jergul large member	Sat May 04 14:34:33 I nominate Obam as cruela D'vil. Damn. Perfect casting. I impress even myself. No, buddy. I was just along and it took one shot. Might as well have taken 15 given the staging with a panicing, begging dog took awhile. What is with your need to diagnose everything without any qualifications to do so? So typical millenial. What are your qualifications to take down a dog? Do you at least have a hunting licence? My experience was unpleasant and unethical. Note a lifelong mental scare I can blame on my parents.
jergul large member	Sat May 04 14:34:49 scar*
jergul large member	Sat May 04 14:46:02 I would say Stan in The Deer Hunter, but that casting was epic. More so that the fellow going on a deer hunt with a saturday night special. You could have had an entire scene. Waving that gun around a parked car on a mountain highway like there was no tomorrow.
obaminated Member	Sat May 04 16:30:13 https://nebraskaexaminer.com/2024/05/03/noem-in-political-freefall-as-book-inaccuracies-emerge-following-backlash-against-animal-killings/ Looks fine to me. She is a solid 7 as a so cal milf but definitely a 10 in south Dakota.
jergul large member	Sat May 04 17:13:53 Ah yes. Full of lies that are blamed on the, of course, ghost writer. We can end the discussion now. There is no reason to believe she ever killed a dog.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed May 08 21:37:47 presumably the worst & most embarrassing clip of Noem struggling w/ the Kim Jong Un anecdote: http://twitter.com/NewsNation/status/1787645769211670550 it just keeps going & going... (til 2:10 anyway) whomever teaches politicians to 'answer' questions like this is an asshole (then at the end of clip, her dodging another question of whether Pence did the right thing on J6, as all Retrumplicant cultists must do)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed May 08 21:41:37 and here's a Newsmax host asking her if maybe the book editor was a liberal plant: http://twitter.com/ArtCandee/status/1788262806271262901 such a great 'news' outlet
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