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murder Member	Sun Aug 25 08:54:45 Republican group cites notorious Dred Scott ruling as reason Kamala Harris can’t be president Group also challenged right of Vivek Ramaswamy and Nikki Haley to appear on Republican primary ballots The National Federation of Republican Assemblies (NFRA) has cited the infamous 1857 Dred Scott Supreme Court decision, which stated that enslaved people weren’t citizens, to argue that Vice President Kamala Harris is ineligible to run for president according to the Constitution. The group also challenged the right of Vivek Ramaswamy and Nikki Haley to appear on Republican primary ballots. The Republican group’s platform and policy document noted that “The Constitutional qualifications of Presidential eligibility” states that “No person except a natural born Citizen, shall be eligible, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.” The same document included former President Donald Trump’s running mate Ohio Senator JD Vance on a list of preferred candidates for vice president. The document and the citing of the Dred Scott decision were initially noted by lawyer Andrew Fleischman on X, formerly Twitter. The group, which adopted the document during their last national convention held between October 13 and 15 last year, goes on to argue in the document that a natural-born citizen has to be born in the US to parents who are citizens when the child is born, pointing to the thinking of Supreme Court Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas. “An originalist and strict constructionist understanding of the Constitution in the Scalia and Thomas tradition, as well as precedent-setting U.S. Supreme Court cases ... have found that a ‘Natural Born Citizen’ is defined as a person born on American soil of parents who are both citizens of the United States at the time of the child’s birth,” the document states. The group then cites six cases including Dred Scott v Sandford. The 1857 ruling came a few years before the 1861 outbreak of the US Civil War over the issue of slavery, stating that enslaved people could not be citizens, meaning that they couldn’t expect to receive any protection from the courts or the federal government. The ruling also said that Congress did not have the power to ban slavery from a federal territory. The NFRA’s platform document argued that “Several states, candidates, and major political parties have ignored this fundamental Presidential qualification, including candidates Nikki Haley, Vivek Ramaswamy, and Kamala Harris whose parents were not American citizens at the time of their birth.” “It is the will of this convention that only candidates who meet the natural born-citizenship standard, interpreted through an originalist and strict constructionist standard, be placed on the 2024 Republican presidential primary ballots,” the document states. The NFRA endorsed Trump during their October convention. The group’s president Alex Johnson said in a statement to The Independent that “The media’s suggestion that referencing a court case in a 30+ page document equates to endorsing every aspect of the case is inherently dishonest and misleading.” “We firmly believe that faux Democrat Ms. Harris should never hold office for any of the many reasons people choose to highlight, including her party’s tactics on dividing people by race and class, which mirror those that have led nations like Venezuela, Cuba, and North Korea into totalitarian regimes,” he claimed. “These policies have historically resulted in widespread suffering, economic collapse, and the erosion of individual freedoms. The Democrat Party preys on the ignorance of voters.” Both Haley and Ramaswamy appeared on Republican primary ballots. Former President Ronald Reagan was a member of the now 90-year-old organization, Raw Story noted. The NFRA’s interpretation of the Constitution would have made several US presidents ineligible to hold office, such as George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison. Their parents were born in what was then the British colonies in what would later become the US, meaning that those commanders in chief would not meet the strict standards of the NFRA. The NFRA also cited the 1939 case Perkins v Elg. “A child born here of alien parentage becomes a citizen of the United States,” the case states, going against the argument of the NFRA. The US Archives states on its site that the Scott v Sandford ruling is “considered by many legal scholars to be the worst ever rendered by the Supreme Court.” It also notes that the decision was “overturned” by the 13th and 14th amendments which abolished slavery and stated that all people born in the US are citizens. http://www...nt-supreme-court-b2601364.html
Byron Member	Sun Aug 25 08:58:20 I, for one, am shocked that this new version of republicans are racists.
Rugian Member	Sun Aug 25 10:15:56 Someone's been sitting on this story for a while now because the document that this is from has been around for the better part of a year. Also, I'd be willing to bet good money that this is the first time anyone here has heard about the National Federation of Republican Assemblies. Prominent and influential this group is likely not. ...but still, who in their right mind thought it would be a good idea to make that decision. Holy shit morons, don't pull idiotic crap like this.
Byron Member	Sun Aug 25 10:22:12 "Prominent and influential this group is likely not." Formation 1935 Notable NFRA members Prominent current and past Republican Assembly members include President Ronald Reagan, storied actress Jane Russell, Eagle Forum founder Phyllis Schlafly, Americans for Tax Reform founder Grover Norquist, former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum, former Nevada U.S. Senate candidate Sharron Angle, former Ambassador and Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell, conservative activist Morton Blackwell, Texas Republican Party Chairman Emeritus Tom Pauken, California Republican State Chairmen Ron Nehring and Tom Del Beccaro, former Republican National Committee Treasurer and Arizona Republican State Chairman Randy Pullen, former Mayor of Meriden and Connecticut Congressional candidate Manny A. Santos, and current U.S. Senators Rand Paul and Ted Cruz. Hey, that's a good one!
Rugian Member	Sun Aug 25 10:48:02 Putting aside the fact that merely being a "member" means next to nothing, I'm not really all that interested in who was a member of this organization 40+ years ago. Look at the current leadership slate. A bunch of absolute nobodies.   http://www...emblies.com/board-of-directors Or their presidential endorsement record, which sucks: "In 2012, the NFRA's Presidential Preference Convention endorsed Rick Santorum for president on the fifth ballot.[3] In 2016, it endorsed Senator Ted Cruz.[4]" It's likely one of those organizations that's *around* and which occasionally gets a visit from a prominent politician making the usual canvassing rounds, but I don't think these guys are at all in the driver's seat for the party.
Forwyn Member	Sun Aug 25 17:53:15 Ah yes, Phyllis Schlafly, the almost-hero that no one born in the last forty years had heard of outside of Netflix specials
obaminated Member	Sun Aug 25 21:45:15 100% this is a group no one on the right knows about or is used a group by liberals to convince liberals that Republicans are still outlandishly racist. Or maybe both. No se.
Jesse Malcolm Barack Member	Mon Aug 26 07:22:37 "convince liberals that Republicans are still outlandishly racist" Dude your current favorite is the guy who claimed Obama cant be american and is a secret african muslim with a fake birth certificate because hes black Also your side keeps callimg him hussein for the same reason
murder Member	Mon Aug 26 08:03:46 Yes, that's why they do it ... but that's also just his name.
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