Utopia Talk / Politics / breakthrough 2: Road to Damascus

Rugian Member	Mon Dec 02 11:55:02 Imagine looking at a regional alliance that includes Russia, Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, the Muslim Brotherhood, and the PMF, and thinking "yeah, these are definitely the guys who I hope end up winning." It is truly difficult to understand the minds of jergulians.
jergul large member	Mon Dec 02 12:26:54 Let me help you. The other guys are terrorists. A Norwegian expert (and actual one. Not a pundit. Someone with years with boots on ground) is comparing the offensive to 7th of October. The terrorists have lost their international backing, so as a last gasp at relevance, the offensive happened. She figures it will end with regime forces in control of Idlib again. It still means constitutional reform and new elections, but perhaps with people having an outlook able to see beyond a short term ba'athist victory in free and fair elections. But perhaps she is wrong. Maybe this is the road to Damascus. Who knows? Not me. I am not pivoting my focus back to Syria again before Ukraine is over.
jergul large member	Mon Dec 02 12:32:06 Its complicated. One of the problems Turkey has with constitutional reform is that facts on the ground (Kurdish control of significant areas) are providing the impetus for a Federated model with significant power devolved to the regions. That Turkey does not want. Not sure why you dislike a strong Federal model for Syria. Balkanization will keep the US fighting fires perpetually in former Syria.
jergul large member	Mon Dec 02 13:15:53 The alternative is Balkanization*
Average Ameriacn Member	Mon Dec 02 13:19:28 Does this give us a chance to take their oil?
Dukhat Member	Mon Dec 02 13:35:20 The other guys are terrorists by designs. The rebels early on were more representative of Syria in general and then Assad selectively persecuted the secular leaders and released all the jihadists making the rebels more terrorist-leaning. But all of this is just proxy-wars as the rebels are now funded by Turkey to destabilize Syria and act as a way to suppress Kurdish national identity which is own bag of worms. We should stay out of it and make sure the humanitarian crisis is handled appropriately so there isn't some giant wave of refugees that turns Europe Nazi again.
Sam Adams Member	Mon Dec 02 13:50:18 "The terrorists have lost their international backing, so as a last gasp at relevance, the offensive happened. She figures it will end with regime forces in control of Idlib again." Lol the mind of jergul is amazing. "We should stay out of it" Nah we should definitely fund the anti-russian side as a means of wearing down iran/russia
Paramount Member	Mon Dec 02 14:15:04 Rugian, Russians and Persians are intellectuals and mostly peaceful, unless you threaten them, Assad’s government is secular. Your friends, the one’s that USA has been arming with modern NATO weapons and who has received training in Turkey are Islamic Jihadist, al-Qaida affiliates. I can't wait until it comes back to bite your ass again. Russia, Iran and Assad are not perfect but neither is you: USA is run by the worst kind of criminals that the world has ever seen since after the WW2, Turkey by a dishonest Islamist scoundrel, Israel by a psychopathic fascist genocidal regime.
Paramount Member	Mon Dec 02 14:17:36 What is going on in Syria and who is fighting and why? http://www.youtube.com/live/LKRxgOqEQyw You can start at 11:14 but it’s always worth to listen from the beginning because it’s Judge Napolitano and Larry Johnson.
Rugian Member	Mon Dec 02 14:19:56 Yeah, I would have thought this offensive was prompted by Russia being preoccupied with Ukraine and Hezbelloh being annihilated by Israel. Big daddy Turkey is still backing its Syrian militia groups, so I'm not sure where this expert is getting her info that this is a desperation move from. It's one thing to recognize that yes, HTS is probably no sane person's idea of a suitable replacement government for Syria. But you and your constant rah rahing for what are objectively some of the worst regimes on the planet are at a whole another level. You have to be mental to actively cheer for the likes of Putin and Assad the way you do.
Paramount Member	Mon Dec 02 14:44:38 ”You have to be mental to actively cheer for the likes of Putin and Assad” I will cheer for Putin any day over the likes of Biden, Netanyahu and Erdogan.
Rugian Member	Mon Dec 02 14:47:04 "Russians and Persians are intellectuals" ROFL. You can be quite the comedian sometimes. Anyway. I'd be happy to help you move to Tehran since you apparently think so highly of the mullahs, and so lowly about the West.
Paramount Member	Mon Dec 02 14:52:34 It feels good to know that I’m not the only one who thinks that it is the USA who is the enemy. @21:50 http://youtu.be/fBS4y3KbGDU
Paramount Member	Mon Dec 02 15:05:18 Not sure if Erdogan is aware of what kind of weasel he is. He phones Putin and asks for help on how to circumvent the sanctions so that Turkey can continue to buy cheap energy from Russia. A couple of days later Syria is invaded by Jihadist suported by Turkey. Erdogan also wish to join BRICS. Turkey may end up alone, neither in BRICS or in the EU. Rofl
TheChildren Member	Mon Dec 02 15:12:57 http://www...ember_1st_ukraine_has_lost_88/
Paramount Member	Mon Dec 02 15:13:37 Btw, how is it that the USA, Britain, Turkey (NATO) can arm jihadist with artillery, tanks and ammunition, but are unable to supply Ukraine with sufficient ammunition, artillery and tanks? :o)
Paramount Member	Mon Dec 02 15:24:22 ”The Russian airforce has been extremely active and appears to have been doing significant damage to the Islamist fighters in northwest Syria.” — Alexander Mercouris The USA must send Patriot systems to the Jihadist. Since the war in Ukraine basically have been lost, maybe Ukraine can send their Patriot systems that they have left to the Jihadist in Syria.
TheChildren Member	Mon Dec 02 15:31:51 ya they have no counta against air powa. he who dominates da air in 1940 style battles win da battles. so basically rugian and fagmatzo been cheerin 2 early here it seems.
jergul large member	Mon Dec 02 16:42:31 Sammy I was paraphrasing a Norwegian expert on Syria. An actual expert, not some pundit. You are the country with a significant foreign posture. Do you really want to get into tit-for-tat "wearing down" measures? Well, for as long as you think playing whackomole with the houtis is fun, then I suppose you would enjoy that even more on a global scale. Ruggy 18 of 21 higher institutes for education are secular and a full 2/3rds of Iran's parliament hold engineering degrees. Usually doctorates. I have met Russian fishermen who can quote their equivalent of Shakespeare verbatim. Yah, those countries have a hefty intellectual reserve. How they use it is a different point. But they have a firm grasp of a classical primary/secondary school education you can only dream of in the k12 hell-hole you call your school system.
obaminated Member	Mon Dec 02 16:44:58 Persians all have engineering degrees. I'm pretty sure their standards are low as shit. I say this because I've dated two Persian women in my life. Both of them had engineering degrees. Neither of them were engineers. One worked at a bank. The other at a grocery store.
jergul large member	Mon Dec 02 16:45:44 Also ruggy, a certain degree of misrepresentation is fun and all that, but Assad is the best of bad options, particularly a moderated Assad that truly wants constitutional reform (not really by choice, he has been compelled to want that). What Putin has done is worse than anything the US has done after wwii except perhaps its blanket carte blanche enabling of Israel's misdoings over the many decades.
Sam Adams Member	Mon Dec 02 17:21:26 "I was paraphrasing a Norwegian expert on Syria. An actual expert" Choose a less obviously retarded "expert" next time please
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Mon Dec 02 23:03:16 Give name of this Norwegian expert please, I want to hear first hand and in context.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Tue Dec 03 04:20:13 "Russians and Persians are intellectuals" There are no intellectuals in countries where you do not have freedom of speech! To even speak about "intellectuals" in such environments is an insult to intellectualism and betrays what an imbecile you truly are. I say that as someone who actually follows high-brow "intellectual" discussions in Farsi where all kinds of people debate and have dialogues. So, those are not my words, actually. Those are the words of Dr. Ahmad Bokharaei, PhD in Sociology and active in Iran. "Full 2/3rds of Iran's parliament hold engineering degrees. Usually doctorates." Take this at face value and realize that all these people with these degrees in parliament are not at all representative of the types of people engineers actually are. Because engineers work as engineers, not as politicians. It takes a certain kind of person to, despite holding such degrees, venture into politics. And that is just the easiest issue, requiring no deeper understanding of Iranian culture and politics; it is universal. Jergul failed then and there—no need to go any deeper. This is the low-resolution, reductionist understanding that Jergul is known for. The type of superficial "understanding" you get from reading Wikipedia articles and talking to people who happen to sit next to you on an airplane. obaminated Member Mon Dec 02 16:44:58 "I say this because I've dated two Persian women in my lifes" That is not true, you say this because you are, like most people, statistically retarded, and probably also a little bit generally retarded. Like honestly? What you just said is as retarded as what Paramount and Jergul said.
TheChildren Member	Tue Dec 03 04:52:16 1 things 4 sure, nimatzo is far from intellectual. as far as can be lol many westoid countries have freedums of dumb and with all that speeches they evolved in2 far right racist shitholes and or cold war rabies or both
jergul large member	Tue Dec 03 05:03:22 Nimi Incorrect. Intellectualism predates codified freedom of expression. http://www...ria-naa-er-et-slags-sluttspill I do my best otherwise. Not all of us can have onkles with their extremely dated opinions on Iran. When was the last time you were in Iran? Incidentally, engineers can do all kinds of things quite well. It does train the mind to be quite autistic (we will make the best gas chamber doors mankind has ever seen. Not my problem what they are used for), but also disciplined.
Forwyn Member	Tue Dec 03 10:39:26 "You have to be mental to actively cheer for the likes of Putin and Assad the way you do." Better Assad than Obama's jihadis.
jergul large member	Tue Dec 03 11:15:32 uncles*
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Tue Dec 03 11:29:56 Mhm. Where is that expert? This is the new Jergul method: some expert (an expert not a pundit!) said ithe coin will flip heads, but who knows it could be tails!
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Tue Dec 03 11:38:23 “Better Assad than Obama's jihadis.“ What is happening in Syria is nothing short of a disaster. It is however ultimately the price Syria and Assad are paying for not pivoting away from their anti-Israel stance and relying on the brainless cultists of the Islamic republic, with whome they have zero ideological overlap. The Islamic republic sees Syria as merely a link in the chain to connect IRGC missile and drone factories to the Levant, a staging ground. Assad doesn’t want any of it, but his balls are in the vice.
jergul large member	Tue Dec 03 11:50:15 Link to expert posted above nimi.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Dec 04 01:17:26 The expert is an expert in humanitarian law. Leftwing bias established. So we can know in which direction the expertise is wishcasting. The analysis seems very simplistic, given that Syria is nowhere near as strong as Israel. Syria’s allies, such as Hezbollah, have had their back broken, and their main supporter, the Islamic Republic, has shown itself unable to defend itself, let alone its allies. Israel will not allow the IRGC or Hezbollah to build up in Syria for any reason, as the recent days/hours airstrikes have shown. Additionally, Russia is occupied with Ukraine. And I mean we now have the benefit of another couplenof days that have been critical, *the Islamic republic has not been been able to muster forces* the rebels still have the momentum. And here we have renewed interest from the US and Israel and the arab countries to further weaken the IRGC and Russian foothold in Syria. While she asserts that the supports of the rebels have lost interest in their cause, she does not take into account that the axis of resistence are today in a far worse position than they were back when they had to fight for every inch to establish the frontiers they just lost in 2 days. It is highly unlikely that Assad will retake Idlib. Unless Syria pivots away from the Islamic republic and into the Abraham accords. Russia would approve.
Paramount Member	Wed Dec 04 01:48:50 ” humanitarian law. Leftwing bias” So humanitarian laws are left-wing? ”Israel will not allow the IRGC or Hezbollah to build up in Syria for any reason” Why not? Doesn’t Syria, like Ukraine, have the right to ally itself with whoever they chose to and Israel has no right to intervene military? Because this is the concept that the US and the West have been talking about relentlessly to past 2-3 years.
Paramount Member	Wed Dec 04 01:49:40 *the past 2-3 years
jergul large member	Wed Dec 04 05:01:48 We can also establish in which direction nimi is wishcasting.
jergul large member	Wed Dec 04 05:42:27 Though yah, anything is possible if Israel returns the Golan heights. An accord with Israel is impossible for anyone in Syria before that happens.
Paramount Member	Wed Dec 04 06:13:54 Israeli think tank: Don't destroy ISIS; it's a "useful tool" against Iran, Hezbollah, Syria According to a think tank that does contract work for NATO and the Israeli government, the West should not destroy ISIS, the fascist Islamist extremist group that is committing genocide and ethnically cleansing minority groups in Syria and Iraq. http://www...-against-iran-hezbollah-syria/ The Destruction of Islamic State is a Strategic Mistake The West yearns for stability, and holds out a naive hope that the military defeat of IS will be instrumental in reaching that goal. But stability is not a value in and of itself. It is desirable only if it serves our interests. http://besacenter.org/destruction-islamic-state-strategic-mistake/ Instability (terrorism, genocide, massacres of children and women and men) is okay if it serves Israel’s and USA’s imperialistic interests. There you have it. The USA and Israel are the enemies. They must be destroyed and turned into dust particles. For the sake of humanity,
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Dec 04 08:45:48 Jergul I have a strong bias towards reality and I can seperate reality from my personal desired outcome. Because on that front I agree that it would be FOR THE BEST if Assad would regain control AND pivot away from the Islamic republic. Yet, reality as it is presenting itself does not align with my desired outcome. Omg! How about that.
jergul large member	Wed Dec 04 09:01:59 The alternative to Iran is Turkey, not Israel. To add one reality check there for you.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Dec 04 10:18:09 Tsk. Again trying to teach into every thread and tripping over yourself. The salient and relevant part is the move away from the Islamic republic and a path to normalizing relations with Israel. Turkey would be a player no matter which path Syria take away from the Islamic republic and away from the detrimental anti-Israeli stance.
jergul large member	Wed Dec 04 10:49:54 The path to normalized relations with Israel is paved with the return of Golan Heights.
jergul large member	Wed Dec 04 10:51:56 You should know that given how much traction Hezb gets from the Sheeba farms (a small speck of territory Israel has yet to return to Lebanon).
Sam Adams Member	Wed Dec 04 11:00:29 Soviet bloc lines are not holding. Jerguls soviets are hard pressed in hama. Soviet fleet may be abandoning their base.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Dec 04 11:46:46 Jergul Maybe in the alternate reality made for retards by retards? But in the real world Syria is still formally at war with Israel, there is only a cease fire. Syria still does not recognize Israel as a country. Israel and Egypt already did this once, we have the blueprint, no need for contrarian retards to attempt to re-invent the wheel.
jergul large member	Wed Dec 04 11:47:48 Nimi The blueprint involved Israel first returning all Egyptian territory it previously held.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Dec 04 11:49:32 Can someone explain why Russia is holding an exercise in the Mediterranean shooting off missiles at nothing when Syria is going up in flames?
jergul large member	Wed Dec 04 11:50:09 Sammy They dont have lines yet. Mobilization takes a while as we saw by the early and dramatic advances of Soviet block forces into Ukraine. You really hate that I was right about Ukraine, dont you? :D
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Dec 04 11:56:15 No jergultard. The blueprint involved Egypt first, formally recognizing Israel, then Sadaat visiting Israel negotiating the deal and *then* 3 years later Israel left (almost all of) Sinai. This is the best you can do making shit up and omitting things?
jergul large member	Wed Dec 04 12:05:55 Nimi You are very cute when you are upset and incorrect. The Camp David Accords negotiated the details of the withdrawal as a prerequisite for a peace agreement "Israel agreed to withdraw its armed forces from the Sinai, gave up its four air bases that had been built there since the Six-Day War (see map to the right), evacuate its 4,500 civilian inhabitants, and restore it to Egypt in return for normal diplomatic relations with Egypt, guarantees of freedom of passage through the Suez Canal and other nearby waterways (such as the Straits of Tiran), and a restriction on the forces Egypt could place on the Sinai peninsula". That template also needs an international moderator like Jimmy Carter. You think Trump is up for the job?
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Dec 04 12:06:27 This is not the same rebels. They have done a lot to change the _apperance and messaging_, no beheading videos, granting amnesty and imploring civilians to evacuate zones. They have clearly put a lot of effort into things that makes this nothing like october 7th and may very well garner support and sympathy.
jergul large member	Wed Dec 04 12:06:53 <3
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Dec 04 12:12:50 Yes they negotiated a deal AFTER Egypt formally recognized Israel, it was not “first” Israel withdrew as you wrote. And even then Israel held on to some territory until 1989. You have throughout this conversation said that this all starts with Israel returning occupies territory. It does not start with that. It starts with Syria or anyone else interested in peace, formally recognizing Israel.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Dec 04 12:15:23 “You think Trump is up for the job?“ The guy who brokered the historical Abraham accords. Why not?
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Dec 04 12:18:04 jergul large member Wed Dec 04 12:06:53 <3 Those are the facts you have to contend with. It may all be apperance and evaporate as quickly as it did with the Taliban. It is however undeniable that they have thought about apperance and optics.
jergul large member	Wed Dec 04 12:21:56 Nimi Awww, so cute *huggles*. Is being corrected difficult for you? Sweet <3. You will figure it out one day :).
jergul large member	Wed Dec 04 12:22:50 Read up on the Camp David accords. You will learn a lot.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Wed Dec 04 12:40:05 The difficult thing, I think most posters agree, is to watch a guy in his 60’s, allegedly unbothered, moisturized, zen and all that, have this meltdown you are having. This has become you trademark tell Jergul. You start using creepy language and emojis. Like it’s not obvious. And I have been trying to tell you, it’s as obvious as those guided North Korea tours.
jergul large member	Wed Dec 04 12:48:46 Hehe, you are cute with your projections nimi <3. I am sorry that you find affection creepy. 60s? Sure. That will be true one day *huggles*.
jergul large member	Wed Dec 04 12:52:44 The denominator you are looking for: I have kittens. So I am smoothering everyone in kindness, as attested to with surprise already <3.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Thu Dec 05 01:46:19 I mean, what can I say buddy 90% of your responses these days are "muh projecting" which has become the grown up (but retarded) version of "I know you are, but what am I". There is Most plausible scenario, you just did what you did the other day with the Tet offensive, you actually thought Israel gave up the Sinai first. Then you googled it and in your frantic cope, likely something very autistic and bereft of context and failing reading comprehension, you have Jergulized a win for yourself. Frantically petting the kittens to keep yourself calm. lol :)
jergul large member	Thu Dec 05 02:48:35 Nimi You get way too emotionally engaged, then you project the depth of your emotionally commitment unto others. It is very human to do so, so its ok. I knew the Camp David accords decided that Israel agree to returning the Sinai in exchange for some other things. You were simply wrong and I was correct. That the Israeli withdrawal took 3 years is besides the point. I encourage you to read up on the David Accords. They are quite interesting. And I stand by what I said. You are very cute <3. Frustrated of course. You live in Sweden. But that is ok. Your grandchildren will be fine.
Seb Member	Thu Dec 05 06:41:14 I see the SAA have adopted Russian strategies most effectively. The PR ones at least, retreating from Hama as a gesture of goodwill. Sorry, I mean secure local safety.
jergul large member	Thu Dec 05 06:56:47 Seb Or Ukrainian strategies while awaiting mobilization to give superior numbers. Russian columns had free range for quite some time.
jergul large member	Thu Dec 05 06:59:30 The big variable is how successfully Syria can mobilize its concription forces.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Dec 05 09:10:26 Lol jergul. Can you hold homs?
Rugian Member	Thu Dec 05 09:27:52 This is embarrassing.
jergul large member	Thu Dec 05 09:34:43 Sammy I am not a party in the conflict. Can you hold homs? Ruggy About as embarrassing as when Sammy lost most of Iraq to ISIS.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Dec 05 09:38:31 Jergul defends the soviet bloc always but tries to deny association now? Lol? Is the magnitude of this defeat too much even for you? You were in fact posting soviet bloc propaganda as recently as last week, denying there were any rebels in aleppo even after the city had clearly fallen completely. Lol what changed?
jergul large member	Thu Dec 05 09:59:04 The magnitude of this defeat is less than the magnitude of Ukraine's defeat in the early days of the Russian invasion. What matters is what happens as Syria mobilizes (it has a mobilization army just like Ukraine. So it actually has to mobilize that army). I am not convinced that Assad has enough support for the mobilization to succeed. Sort of like Ukraine now if you want an analogy. I have no idea of the outcome. Neither do you.
jergul large member	Thu Dec 05 10:04:34 VOA made any denial that you think you found. I did a quick check and used that source as it is an American propaganda outlet, so would tend to no err on the side of Assad. Be better sammy. Strawmen as still dolls and you have been playing with a lot of them lately.
jergul large member	Thu Dec 05 10:06:01 are still dolls*
Sam Adams Member	Thu Dec 05 10:38:42 Lol poor jergul. This must be hard for you. Russia unable to conquer a tiny nation on its border. Iran impotent. Another front opened with massive gains against syria. Hezbollah smoked. Hamas smoked. You cheerleading the losing side all the way.
jergul large member	Thu Dec 05 10:43:22 Sammy We will just have to agree to disagree on your understanding of my positions on all of the above. I have kittens. Life is too short to rehash all of those yet again, just for you to forget by tomorrow morning at the latest <3.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Dec 05 12:21:05 Things are moving rapidly. Lots of rumors. SAA collapsing, homs being evacuated by team jergul, rebels already in homs, israeli offensive planned to expand the golan footprint, assad being offered asylum. I doubt all are true but some probably are. Jerguls fleeing homs seems to be the most true.
jergul large member	Thu Dec 05 12:31:47 Sigh. I am guessing you are on vacation. You are usually better medicated.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Dec 05 14:24:21 "There are no rebels in aleppo"
jergul large member	Thu Dec 05 16:07:31 Fake quotes diminish you sammy.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Dec 05 16:16:41 Sam Adams Member Fri Nov 29 10:20:26 Aleppo falls. That was fast. jergul large member Fri Nov 29 10:26:28 ^Speaking of premature ejaculations. VOA: "The government did not comment on insurgents breaching city limits" Close enough
Rugian Member	Thu Dec 05 16:17:31 It's what we in America call a satire jergul. Half of Europe's problems could be solved if only you fuckers could develop a sense of humor.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Dec 06 00:23:59 Rugian The pattern is the jokes he ”does not get” not that he doesn’t have a sense of humor. Like if you joke about Trump, he will totally get that. If you joke about the Russian black sea fleet, not so much. But like his positions are like totally clear <3 KITTENS!
Paramount Member	Fri Dec 06 01:15:33 Sam and Nimatzo are on the side of the Islamic Jihadist, the terrorists, IS, al Nusra, al Qaida. I thought at least Sam was against Islamic terrorists.
jergul large member	Fri Dec 06 02:13:31 Nimi Dear friend, did you not feel included in "you fuckers" without a sense of humour? I consider you European. Nuture beats nature, particularly in this case <3.
jergul large member	Fri Dec 06 02:16:34 Also, I mostly enjoy dad humour including bad puns. Trump jokes are rarely funny to me. But, you know what they say. Group singing is an a choired taste <3.
TheChildren Member	Fri Dec 06 05:28:47 https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/erdogans-idlib-shock-shadows-kursk so is true then...this is anotha desperate attempt a la kursk becoz da warmongers r in disbelief and cannot accept defeat so they double triple quadrupple quintatripple or some whatever u say it, down by openin more front lines
TheChildren Member	Fri Dec 06 05:28:54 http://www...gans-idlib-shock-shadows-kursk
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Dec 06 08:15:12 "Dear friend, did you not feel included in "you fuckers" without a sense of humour? I consider you European." If you pay attention, dear friend, you will read that I provided nuance to Rugian's black and white reading. So, no, I don't feel included, neither should you. It's a human thing to not find humor in things you are emotionally invested in. And there you go, did you see what I did there? Unfortunatly for whatever reason Rugian et al can't do that, they lazily go for the "you fuckers" angle. It's not like this exact same behavior doesn't exist among fuckers like Rugian. The problem is the things some fuckers are emotionally invested in.. and keep lying about.
murder Member	Fri Dec 06 08:35:09 "so is true then...this is anotha desperate attempt a la kursk becoz da warmongers r in disbelief and cannot accept defeat so they double triple quadrupple quintatripple or some whatever u say it, down by openin more front lines" It should have been done from day one ... as I've been saying from day one. But Joe Biden is a twat.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Dec 06 08:35:11 Homs seems to be falling to rebels. Onto Damascus. Lol jergul.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Dec 06 08:38:21 Iranian forces are withdrawing from eastern syria. Can your boys hold anything jergul?
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Dec 06 08:41:10 Southern Syria seems lost as well. Apparently Assad's forces have handed over Deir ez zor to SDF. Big if true, they held on to that city for the entire war, despite numerous attemps by the Islamic state to take the city. Someone should slap that "expert" Jergul cited, who was totally not a pundit. He sold her in so hard too :/ The kiss of death.
Sam Adams Member	Fri Dec 06 08:42:41 Russia appears to be leaving. Southern cities are revolting. I dont think assad survives this.
LazyCommunist Member	Fri Dec 06 08:46:09 Although all Russian ships have left Tartus overnight, we can assume that they will only regroup and then launch a devastating attack with their guns against the advancing hordes. We will continue to support Assad and denazify Syria, just as we are doing in Ukraine!
Rugian Member	Fri Dec 06 09:05:44 "It's not like this exact same behavior doesn't exist among fuckers like Rugian." It doesn't exist, no. That said, if you make any jokes about me or Trump then we're going to have a death match in a Swedish forest.
Rugian Member	Fri Dec 06 09:10:44 Anyway, the butterfly effect here is quite fascinating. Hamas decides to murder some Jews results in the SCW starting back up and Assad maybe losing everything. Life's a trip que no.
jergul large member	Fri Dec 06 10:16:14 Nimi. I am glad you think you have a sense of humour. It is very sweet and I am sure you do have one that you share profusely with people in real life <3
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Fri Dec 06 10:32:17 Does massive amounts of cope, make people worse at readong comprehension? It’s a genuine question.
jergul large member	Fri Dec 06 10:44:37 Nimi I am not invested in Syria at all. So zero cope. A defining characteristic of the humourless is that they think they have a great sense of humour. I am sure you think you have expressed a sense of humour in this forum, just as I am certain that factually, in real life, you likely are a great humourist. Myself, I like dad jokes and bad puns. Maybe some play on words or folksy stuff like Mark Twain. I recognize my sense of humour is pretty basic. I do puns here occassionally. Not very often. Jokes about Trump? Well maybe if it started like: "Trump, a rabbi and a priest went into a bar"
murder Member	Fri Dec 06 11:16:15 "Southern cities are revolting." AMEN!
Rugian Member	Fri Dec 06 11:39:35 Jergul was definitely invested in Syria back when he would spend thread after thread insisting that the weapons used WMDs on themselves
Rugian Member	Fri Dec 06 11:39:49 *rebels
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