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Sam Adams
Member
Sat Dec 21 21:58:44
Aegis ship uss gettysburg shoots down one of uss harry trumans f-18s.

Amazing display of declining standards.
Sam Adams
Member
Sat Dec 21 22:00:31
At least the missiles and parachutes work... both crew in good health.
jergul
large member
Sun Dec 22 01:40:11
Sammy
Damn your WASP Navy sucks.
jergul
large member
Sun Dec 22 02:08:18
It is as I said btw. You no longer have a fishing fleet or merchant navy to support a living maritime tradition. The solution was to beauracratise seamanship. Port is now left, starboard is now right, procedures for everything. That works, sort of, most of the time. Except when it does not.

White Anglo-Saxon male still dominate the navy. It is full of little sammys. Own it.
Rugian
Member
Sun Dec 22 03:23:55
The USN could sink the entire Black Sea Fleet tomorrow if we so desired. Cool it with the jingoism jergul.
jergul
large member
Sun Dec 22 03:46:50
Ruggy
Russia could also sink the entire USN tomorrow if it so desired. Cool it with the jingoism Ruggy.
jergul
large member
Sun Dec 22 03:54:32
Not a false equivalency btw. Both events = nuclear war.

Incidentally, why did you think what I said was jingoism?
Rugian
Member
Sun Dec 22 04:23:07
"Russia could also sink the entire USN tomorrow if it so desired."

Nope. Not remotely possible.

"Incidentally, why did you think what I said was jingoism?:

Do I really need to explain this? You're a Russian xenopatriot who saw a story about the USN commiting a mistake and you gleefully proceeded to post about how much the Navy sucks.

As if "your" navy is any better (how's it performing against Ukraine again?)
jergul
large member
Sun Dec 22 04:40:18
Ruggy
True. About a third of USN submarines would survive the initial anti-shipping nulcear strikes. Please excuse my hyperbole.

You are conflating anti-hubris and a distaste for rank hypocracy with pro-russian sentiments.

I immediately moved to dispell Sammy's "see, woke sucks" when the actual problem is something very different. The US navy is still dominated by little sammys. They just dont know boats too well anymore as you lost your maritime tradition. So you have a navy run on procedures instead.

It works, sort of, most of the time. Except when it does not. Like I said.
Rugian
Member
Sun Dec 22 04:54:10
Jergul

I didn't realize that this incident could have been prevented if only the crew of the Gettysburg had come from families of fishermen.

One could almost be forgiven for wondering how having sea legs helps in determining whether or not to shoot SAM missiles at a friendly F/A-18.
TheChildren
Member
Sun Dec 22 05:09:18
funny how all "accidents" r always "friendliez firez"

what r da odds...

none

jergul
large member
Sun Dec 22 05:09:19
It probably would have. Seamen and fishermen are inherently prudent/cautious/risk adverse. Measure twice, cut once principles. A missile launch because certain procedural boxes had been ticked would still be subject to the better judgement of the people involved.
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