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murder Member	Wed Jan 01 06:33:09 NOPD: At least 10 dead after vehicle plows into crowd on Bourbon Street The City of New Orleans says NOEMS has transported 30 injured patients. NEW ORLEANS — The New Orleans Police Department is on the scene of a major incident on Bourbon Street on New Year's Day. At least 10 people are dead after a vehicle plowed into a group of people. EMS has transported 30 injured patients to the hospital. People are advised to stay away from the area. Multiple EMS units are on the scene, according to NOPD. No other information is available at this time. http://www...48-bdb7-4144-a939-355e7a497528
murder Member	Wed Jan 01 06:33:36 Muslim or anti-muslim? :oP
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 01 06:52:42 Completely unacceptable. This is America, we use guns to kill people, not vehicles.
murder Member	Wed Jan 01 07:00:31 I'm not sure why it's so hard to protect areas with lots of pedestrians with vehicle barriers. It doesn't even sound expensive.
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 01 07:07:06 Oh never mind "Several witnesses told CBS News that a white truck crashed into the crowd at a high speed, before the driver got out and began firing a weapon. Police returned fire, according to CBS, which cited eye-witness accounts.".. Phew. That's more like it.
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 01 07:07:22 Some videos http://x.c...52¤tTweetUser=rawsalerts
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 01 07:07:52 Fixed link http://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1874418971140571552/
Paramount Member	Wed Jan 01 08:53:30 Did the driver shout MAGA or Allah Ackbar?
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 01 09:01:42 Yeah this one's kind of a toss up. I'm leaning towards either Muslim or just genuinely insane with no political motive, but it could be a MAGA type as well.
murder Member	Wed Jan 01 09:33:28 I'm assuming raghead.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 01 11:25:32 Trump (as completely usual) willing to irresponsibly jump to conclusions (completely unacceptable behavior): " When I said that the criminals coming in are far worse than the criminals we have in our country, that statement was constantly refuted by Democrats and the Fake News Media, but it turned out to be true. The crime rate in our country is at a level that nobody has ever seen before. Our hearts are with all of the innocent victims and their loved ones, including the brave officers of the New Orleans Police Department. The Trump Administration will fully support the City of New Orleans as they investigate and recover from this act of pure evil! " also... yeah, no American ever engages in terror nor kills 10 people... (& standard lying about crime) all so acceptable
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 01 11:29:47 "The suspect accused of plowing a truck through a crowd on Bourbon Street early Wednesday morning has been identified by a law enforcement source as 42-year-old Shamsud Din Jabbar. Police fatally shot him after the attack, which killed 10 people and injured 35. The source said Jabbar was carrying an ISIS flag in the truck, and authorities have said he was dressed in military gear. " http://www...5f-11ef-a68f-f30b3ad49828.html Muslim.
Dukhat Member	Wed Jan 01 11:56:49 Muslim men always become radicalized. Their culture is shit. The one good thing Trump did was try to get rid of all of them. He should try and prioritize targeting them again.
murder Member	Wed Jan 01 12:25:57 He committed the attack with an Ford F-150 Lightning EV pickup truck. I don't know why I find that amusing.
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Jan 01 12:45:12 [tumbletard (actual fucking retard)]: "yeah, no American ever engages in terror nor kills 10 people..." You stupid fucking faggot. How many actual Americans are plowing their trucks into holiday celebrations, you piece of shit? Or do you mean *paper* "Americans", who can be fucking anyone? You need to get the fuck out of this country. You are not American. You are a fucking traitor and a terrorist-in-waiting. There is absolutely nothing redeemable about you. Regime media has radicalized you into a nihilistic-collectivist psychopath. You have no soul. .. Back here in reality, it seems that brown people in particular sure love their fully semi-automatic assault trucks of war. New Orleans news is talking about bollards as a solution like this is fucking Europe. It used to be fine for a couple of police cars to park at these street entrances for traffic control, but sebbish social engineering now means that Bourbon street might have to install those giant 10-foot-long truck-proof eye sores. Funny how if these people were mass-deported we wouldn't need bollards at all. Funny how left-wing psychopaths want more and more of these people because the West is just a "proposition" and anyone can "assimilate" to our "culture" but our "culture" is just "whatever the fuck anyone wants it to be" so there's no difference between a paper-American and an actual American and it's therefore impossible to tell who's doing these things or why. Left-wing ideology is just a sludge of suicidal despair and resentment, and these are its products: Americans killed by foreigners and a lack of bollards blamed.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Wed Jan 01 12:46:13 Texan, Army vet (multiple enlistments), Muslim, natural born American citizen... let's see what people latch onto as the rorschach test. http://www...s-injured-101735753492096.html @murder - "The city has steel barriers to stop a vehicle attack on Bourbon Street but they were “not deployed” because they were “being repaired,” Nola.com reported."
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Jan 01 12:53:56 [earthfaggot]: "Texan, Army vet (multiple enlistments), Muslim, natural born American citizen... " Weird. Almost like the military no longer keeps people from being traitors and commies. Almost like Heinlein warned exactly about people who could falsify their credentials through the military only to justify their subversive behavior afterwards and that therefore responsibility must extend beyond the act of service itself. Almost like "natural born" means nothing to a foreigner. Almost like he was not actually a "Texan" but a foreign conqueror. Almost like anyone with a fucking brain could tell you the signs. I just posted this elsewhere: --- Clearly, the West needs more bollards. Why did this happen? Not enough bollards. What was "plan-B"? Vehicles-as-bollards. Don't ask about the conditions that necessitate bollards. Just focus on the bollards. ---
Sam Adams Member	Wed Jan 01 12:54:23 Why are muslims allowed cars?
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Jan 01 13:10:14 Honestly, Muslims, like leftists, should not be enfranchised, should not get to hold government offices of any kind, should not get to work in banking or finance, should not get driver's licenses (just regular I.D.s), and should only be able to draw welfare from other Muslims (not from the general funds). This should be a starting point for them in the West. If they want to reverse this, they must prove their loyalty to the West through service to a local Western lord like in Dune feudalism.
williamthebastard Member	Wed Jan 01 14:35:40 The US is in a terrible state when everyones first guesses are its either an islamist or a trumper
williamthebastard Member	Wed Jan 01 14:37:46 Im just glad it wasnt chunky cherub this time, although its probably hard to find a bariatric bed that can move that fast
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Jan 01 15:01:58 [williamthecoward]: "Im just glad it wasnt chunky cherub this time, although its probably hard to find a bariatric bed that can move that fast" Keep digging for ad homs, you pathetic dysgenic freak. We know that the Bolsheviks use collectivist-nihilists such as yourself to do their bidding, we know that leftists such as yourself are weak and unfit, and we know that you are too lazy to perform any task yourself, hence your ideology is based in parasitism. Your insults are always projections because you lack the intelligence to form a functional theory-of-mind for your opposition. .. People who thought a truck attack could be a "trumper" are being far too fair, since nearly every vehicle attack which targeted people has been done by an Islamic terrorist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_vehicle-ramming_attacks (The bulk of attacks are by Middle Easterners and North Africans — those people that williamthecoward types are too fucking stupid to realize exist as a separate genetic branch.) And we *knew* (in advance of confirmation) that this was an Islamic person (or brown person) simply because the news delayed releasing the name and identity. If it had been a White person, we would have known immediately. Additionally, the nature of the killer can be found in the nature of the attack. • A black mass-shooter — which comprises the majority of all mass shootings — are more likely to have a higher ratio of wounded to killed, whereas a White mass-shooter — which is an absolute rarity compared to black shooters — will have a higher ratio of kills to wounded. • Right-wing attacks typically require intelligence and planning, whereas left-wing attacks are disorganized and desperately stupid. • Right-wing attacks are typically done by people who have pursued training, whereas left-wing attacks are by people who don't know what the fuck they're doing (just consider how scared left-wingers are of weapons but suddenly they need one for their sick deeds). • Left-wing attacks are also more likely to collectivize to overcome their incompetence, hence their identification with terrorist groups such as ISIS, Antifa, and BLM and their historical utility as penguins pushing each other off a cliff. We have known all of this for a long time. It's pretty easy to identify.
williamthebastard Member	Wed Jan 01 15:08:27 Although a bariatric bed loaded with approaching a ton of sweaty flesh doesnt really need much speed to kill people, so I guess its just matter of time :(
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Jan 01 15:30:44 You have like.. one insult. You're a really sad little boy. :p
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Jan 01 15:45:10 Additional information on williamthecoward's and sebgul's hero: http://x.com/JSweetLI/status/1874507867937444077 He was a "Human Resources Supervisor" in the Army, so basically just a bureaucrat faggot. It looks like he's more black than M.E., though the FBI confirms that he was flying an ISIS flag on his truck. Also, current New Orleans news is saying that police are looking for accomplices ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED1XN3e_Ar4 ). The driver had IEDs in his possession, but reports say that additional IEDs were recovered — apparently planted before the attack by potentially by 3 – 4 other people (three men and one woman observed). News is saying that two different neighborhoods are being searched. It's possible that talk of accomplices is an error (e.g., suspicious objects misinterpreted as IEDs), but there was a claim that the FBI has video footage of them, so accomplices is possibly semi-confirmed. The FBI has already scrubbed the driver's Twitter ( @shamjabbar ) and YouTube ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-dqDlgQei0 ) accounts.
Seb Member	Wed Jan 01 15:49:20 As if that right wing dude didn't run down a bunch of peaceful protesters at Charlottesvile.
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Jan 01 15:54:43 [sebtard (confirmed faggot)]: "As if that right wing dude didn't run down a bunch of peaceful protesters at Charlottesvile." The absolute faggotry of this statement. Sebfag tries to understand a normal distribution challenge impossible.
williamthebastard Member	Wed Jan 01 17:49:21 Well, thats the last time Im staying at a Trump hotel, thats for sure! Awful parking valets, eh Chunky!
Forwyn Member	Wed Jan 01 18:15:16 To Seb, running down one fat chick because angry counter-protesters were throwing shit at and beating his car is exactly the same as getting kitted up, hitting as many people as possible, then emerging with a suppressed AR to kill more.
williamthebastard Member	Wed Jan 01 18:17:39 Seb, get it right. Killing a fat woman isnt like killing a real person, for gods sake!
kargen Member	Wed Jan 01 18:21:30 tumbleweed everything Trump said is true, just some of it wasn't applicable in this attack.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 01 18:39:26 yes, i know, nothing he says is ever wrong in any way sounds like the 'terrorist' had marital & financial problems, probably trying to give his suicide meaning
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 01 18:56:35 Tumbleweed is trying to make this about Trump. Could tumbleweed be a more disgusting human being? Hey tumbleweed. Let me make this abundantly clear to you. FUCK. OFF.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 01 19:09:29 i didn't try to make it about Trump, just pointing out his almost daily unacceptable behaviors that somehow get a pass... it's what i do
williamthebastard Member	Wed Jan 01 19:26:55 Anyway, excellent timing from Forwyn explaining how just parking a car outside a trump hotel and killing only one person is not comparable in any way to a terrorist attack. And if the dead person was a fat woman, so what?
Forwyn Member	Wed Jan 01 20:34:58 Yes wtb, specifically targeting a political figure is exactly the same as hitting a random crowd of people hitting your car, which is exactly the same as hitting an unsuspecting crowd at a celebration and bringing a rifle to maximize kills, including fighting responding cops. Lol
Sam Adams Member	Wed Jan 01 20:57:02 Wtbs retard genes kicking in again, lol
murder Member	Wed Jan 01 22:52:15 "The city has steel barriers to stop a vehicle attack on Bourbon Street but they were “not deployed” because they were “being repaired,” Nola.com reported." Yeah, I had read that they have more substantial barriers, but that they weren't deployed for some reason. Of course, that's like having a condom. It's not much good if you don't use it when you need it. But I wasn't referring to the kind of thing that can malfunction or need repair. I meant portable barriers that can be moved wherever and whenever you need them ... and permanent barriers to keep cars from going on the sidewalks. For stuff like this, low tech is the best tech. -
murder Member	Wed Jan 01 22:53:18 "The US is in a terrible state when everyones first guesses are its either an islamist or a trumper" same same
murder Member	Wed Jan 01 23:01:01 Apparently the death toll is now 35. Also ... Tesla explodes in front of a Trump hotel in Las Vegas. I have no idea how long it's going to take investigators to figure out if it was an attack or if the Tesla just exploded ... as Teslas sometimes do. ;o) -
murder Member	Wed Jan 01 23:02:39 btw going with a Cybertruck at the main entrance of a Trump hotel was chef's kiss.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 01 23:28:42 pretty sure death toll at 15 still not for Rugian: (& Trump is -still- suggesting this was a border failure... our chosen leader sticks to his extremely regular lies)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 01 23:40:35 now some mass shooting in New York "this is what happens when MAGA takes over" ~ Biden, Hillary, Obama, etc no wait, only 1 'leader' gets away w/ that shit
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 01 23:56:39 the cybertruck person seems to have been identified as Matthew Livelsberger
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Jan 02 00:08:17 Imagine be so retarded that you blame this on Trump, lol
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 02 01:02:55 i have no post here remotely blaming Trump for this incident
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Jan 02 01:27:56 Tumblefaggotry: "no wait, only 1 'leader' gets away w/ that shit"
murder Member	Thu Jan 02 02:35:35 "pretty sure death toll at 15 still" Yes. I meant to type 15 but between my brain and my fingers into morphed into 35. *shrug* :o)
jergul large member	Thu Jan 02 08:59:48 Murder It happens. 30% morphed into 40% in a thread recently. And I doubled down on that mistake.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 02 11:08:23 to nazibot: perhaps your inability to read Trump's words extends to my posts about him too my entire point in every post about Trump in this thread is him jumping to conclusions then flat lying about what happened (as he continues to do into this morning), implying this attacker sneaked across the border by blaming Biden's 'open border policy' (& there was never an open border policy either)... & i was noting no other 'leader' gets away w/ that CONSTANT lying bullshit behavior (but you probably can't read that... sad!)
TheChildren Member	Thu Jan 02 11:16:26 just anotha day in ur country
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 02 12:58:09 go Notre Dame! (then restores an old rivalry game vs Penn State) that's what's important here
Rugian Member	Thu Jan 02 13:25:48 "It happens. 30% morphed into 40% in a thread recently. And I doubled down on that mistake." ...
jergul large member	Thu Jan 02 13:29:46 Ruggy It did not matter. The point was that the sum of two years x% increase came within reasonable range of y. The thread gained some solidity when you found the source for an unsourced X exclamation (!). So I treated is a bit more seriously. 70% is incidentally compounded 2x30% rounded. So corrected in the end.
Rugian Member	Thu Jan 02 13:30:42 Tumbleweed Not to distract from the OP, but you've literally spent the last four years accusing Trump of leading an insurrection in an attempt to overthrow the national government, and the last eight accusing him of praising white nationalists at Charlottesville. To name just two widely-circulated lies the Democrats have propagated about Trump.
jergul large member	Thu Jan 02 14:05:45 Attempted to subvert the transition of power is perhaps more correct. He was still president on the day in question.
murder Member	Thu Jan 02 14:05:50 Except that he did lead the insurrection to try to overthrow the US government, and he did assert that at least some of the white nationalists in Charlottesville were very fine people.
Sam Adams Member	Thu Jan 02 14:38:55 Everyone who protests against me are white nationalists!!
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 02 15:03:55 i have spent no time accusing him of praising white nationalists, nor saying he lead the insurrection (the riot was NOT the point of the charges as i've noted repeatedly & your side never can recognize, as it's easier to not blame Trump for the riot than address what he was factually doing) he factually DID try to overturn the election with lies when failing to make any progress in courts, he just wanted state legislatures to declare him winner (that is NOT a legal process anywhere)... (& also wanted Pence alone to just make him winner (by invalidating electoral votes & going to a 1-vote-per-state rule)... a fucking crazy plot, yet as Pence said it was Trump's preferred method... as of course it would be as got it done quick) your side fucking crazily ignores this occurred (plus the classified docs episode, w/ him offering nothing but an obvious lie as defense, which even if true -still- makes him grossly irresponsible... yet your side notices nothing at all & thinks FBI to blame) FUCKING INSANE CULT (& your fault i brought that up again)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 02 15:19:16 Mike Johnson (speaker of the house) was on Fox also claiming this attack was related to 'open borders' the whole 'party' is total dogshit
Dukhat Member	Thu Jan 02 15:50:13 Looks like it had less to do with him being a muslim but just someone lost to toxic masculinity and blaming other people instead of himself for his inability to provide for a family.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 02 16:15:25 his initial plan was murdering his family, so yeah, the ISIS thing seems like just an insincere plan B to check out w/ a pretense of purpose
Cherub Cow Member	Thu Jan 02 16:26:35 [tumblefaggot (TDS bot who seriously cannot help himself since he is so fucking far gone)]: "perhaps your inability to read Trump's words extends to my posts about him too" Wow, super interesting. How about you go fuck yourself and take your random talk about Trump to your psychotic derangement threads, you fucking psychopath? This is about New Orleans. Control yourself, you absolute piece of shit psychosis victim. If you want to talk about Trump you literally have 53 threads about it, you fucking cultist. Stop projecting. You are in a cult. You have 18 days. [murder (left-wing dogma bot)]: "Except that he did lead the insurrection to try to overthrow the US government, and he did assert that at least some of the white nationalists in Charlottesville were very fine people." Two lies in a row from a fucking liar. Surprise, surprise. .. Sounds like the FBI is revising to believing that the left-wing psychopath acted alone: http://www...w-orleans-truck-attack-suspect This would give credence to the idea that the "suspicious items" were just things that random people left around and which were not actually IEDs. Bourbon Street tends to get trashed, so sometimes people will just drop stuff.
Seb Member	Thu Jan 02 18:24:23 Dukhat: Take a look at the pictures of the Isis flag. Seems pretty obvious that he couldn't read Arabic and probably not so familiar with Isis. Otherwise he'd probably not have put the flag on upside down.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jan 02 19:12:57 a good Sugar Bowl, it was dicey to the end with NDs struggling offense
murder Member	Fri Jan 03 03:50:41 "Otherwise he'd probably not have put the flag on upside down." Full name: Shamsud Din Jabbar Alito -
Seb Member	Fri Jan 03 03:53:42 Murder: How many folks with Irish names in the US and proud of their heritage can actually speak Gaelic?
Seb Member	Fri Jan 03 03:55:00 Didn't stop them donating to the IRA of course. Even ones with Scots Ulster heritage who thought that just made them doubly repressed.
murder Member	Fri Jan 03 04:05:31 I was just referencing the Supreme Court Justice who created a stir by flying the US flag upside down.
Cherub Cow Member	Fri Jan 03 04:33:19 Sebfaggot is now going to pretend that IRA bombings are in the same league as foreigners and sick foreign ideologies being imported to kill Westerners. Lol. Fucking faggot. XD I'll give you a tip, dipfag: the acceptable amount of crime by non-Westerners in the West is fucking *zero*, whereas if there is Westerner-on-Westerner crime then that is at *least* not being done by foreign occupiers (with the exception of obvious historical moments when the English needed their teeth punched in). And isn't this thread about America? Get the fuck out and shut the fuck up, you "tourist" faggot. Lol :D
patom Member	Fri Jan 03 04:54:21 Trump has declared: Our country is a disaster, a laughing stock all over the world! This is what happens when you have OPEN BORDERS, with weak, ineffective and virtually nonexistent leadership. The DOJ, FBI and state and local prosecutors have not done their job. They are incompetent and corrupt, having spent all their waking hours attacking their political opponent, me, rather than focusing on protecting Americans from the inside and outside violent SCUM that has infiltrated all aspects of our government, and our nation itself. Democrats should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this to happen to our country. The CIA must get involved, NOW, before it's too late. The USA is breaking down, a violent erosion safety, National Security and Democracy is taking place all across our Nation. Only strength and powerful leadership stop it. See you on Jan. 20th. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
Paramount Member	Fri Jan 03 06:23:09 ”Our country is a disaster” Yup ”This is what happens when you have OPEN BORDERS, with weak, ineffective and virtually nonexistent leadership.” Yup. Although it can probably happen anyway. But a closed border and a strong leadership may help. ”The DOJ, FBI and state and local prosecutors have not done their job” I have no idea, but sometimes people tend to not do their job because of lazyness or incompetence or a combination of both. ”They are incompetent and corrupt, having spent all their waking hours attacking their political opponent, me, rather than focusing on protecting Americans” Yup. ”Democrats should be ashamed of themselves” Yup ”The CIA must get involved, NOW, before it's too late.” If they aren’t already involved, then yup. ”The USA is breaking down” Yup. Just look at Boeing. The Democrats. The number of homeless people. The open borders. The violence on the streets. People setting other people on fire. Mentally ill people running people over with cars. The yellow cheese fences in N.Y subway stations. Trump is pretty much correct :o)
Paramount Member	Fri Jan 03 06:25:17 Where did he get the ISIS flag from? Can you actually buy an ISIS flag in the United States? Lol
Seb Member	Fri Jan 03 06:36:40 Murder: Oh, that went over my head, sorry!
Seb Member	Fri Jan 03 06:37:05 CC: Read up on the Omagh bomb.
Seb Member	Fri Jan 03 06:39:02 I don't consider Americans "domestic". The acceptable number of British children blown up by American money is zero, and we should adopt a Mossad style approach to foreigners funding or stoking terrorism in the UK.
Rugian Member	Fri Jan 03 08:17:58 "we should adopt a Mossad style approach to foreigners funding or stoking terrorism in the UK." Not a battle you'd win chief.
jergul large member	Fri Jan 03 08:20:27 Its a battle China would win while crunching popcorn.
Seb Member	Fri Jan 03 08:39:56 Rugian: Not a battle you'd ever find out about. Accidents happen. People fall out of windows. Billionaires find themselves on sinking yachts and imploding submarines. So sad.
Forwyn Member	Fri Jan 03 08:47:23 Seb is seriously comparing the IRA to radical Islam. lmfao
Rugian Member	Fri Jan 03 08:48:23 Prime Ministers get shot on the street coming home from the cinema, or maybe drown in the sea, or commit suicide in their office. And don't even tempt us into giving full-blown military support to your ethnic minorities. You forget who you're dealing with Seb? We would have virtually unlimited resources to fuck with you if you went down that path.
Forwyn Member	Fri Jan 03 09:14:53 In 2025, the idea that IRA ideology (fundamentally different from that of jihad in the first place) is the same sort of anchor even for domestically-born disaffected males to latch on to and murder dozens is laughable. But Seb knows this. How far back do you have to go before IRA killings outpace Muslim killings? Thirty years?
Seb Member	Fri Jan 03 13:22:14 Forwyn: Yes, they killed thousands of people.
Seb Member	Fri Jan 03 13:25:30 2023 was the first year since 1969 where there were no sectarian killings in northern Ireland, though there were 31 paramilitary assaults and 19 casualties of shootings.
Seb Member	Fri Jan 03 13:26:38 Rugian: Lol. Try it. American humint famously sucks.
Forwyn Member	Fri Jan 03 13:31:48 "2023 was the first year since 1969 where there were no sectarian killings in northern Ireland" Let's fact check that by picking a random year 2000: April 30, IRA shoots a drug dealer May 29, IRA shoots a drug dealer Sep 29, IRA shoots a drug dealer OCt 13, IRA shoots a RIRA member Oh nooooo, four deaths caused by sectarian violence! lmfao you fucking retard
Sam Adams Member	Fri Jan 03 13:57:39 Notice how seb avoided the actual question
Seb Member	Fri Jan 03 15:45:57 Forwyn: How do you think both nationality and loyalist groups fund themselves? "How far back do you have to go before IRA killings outpace Muslims killings? Thirty years?" Sectarian violence is more common. But the last "spectacular" is thankfully further in by the past than the last major Islamist attack. In part though that's because the security services keep a lot of resources on sectarian violence still.
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