Utopia Talk / Politics / Only Trump can save TikTok now

murder Member	Fri Jan 17 11:28:19 SCOTUS upheld the law that bans TikTok if it is not sold.
murder Member	Fri Jan 17 12:57:37 My favorite part of the TikTok meltdown is the idiots threatening to learn Mandarin so they can use Chinese apps. Mandarin is hard ... and you're stupid and lazy.
obaminated Member	Fri Jan 17 14:51:46 English is considered the hardest language to learn. Tiktok should be banned.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jan 17 15:17:25 Trump content gets lots of views, so it's staying that's what matters here (it's literally all he mentions as his reasoning, at least when not reading a prompter) ...but could be related to the 'donations' (bribes) he's getting too
Rugian Member	Fri Jan 17 18:12:25 The fucked up thing about tumbleweed is that I guarantee that if I go and scrape his posts from back in 2020 (when Trump was pushing a ban) he was 100% opposed to banning TikTok back then. The sad thing is that he'll never realize that his decision making is absolute garbage.
murder Member	Fri Jan 17 18:53:26 Biden will not enforce the law, because why start now?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Jan 17 19:05:03 "his decision making is absolute garbage" i wish you could identify the right him i'm making no value judgment on merits of banning or not, just Trump -completely- unfit to ever make a decision on it or anything at all
obaminated Member	Fri Jan 17 19:52:24 It's been well established that tw has a legit mental disorder. Who can post every day for little under a decade about a politician? Someone with a legit mental disorder.
murder Member	Fri Jan 17 20:26:51 http://www...93ix/republican_haunted_house/ lol :o)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 19 01:04:39 TikTok is pretending they have been forced to shutdown just to give Trump a 'win' & thus gain influence over the easily bribable child ...even though he was the one who initially tried to shut it down... but changed his mind as didn't want to help Zuckerberg (w/ multiple crazy reasonings going on)... then also got bribed w/ donations & got lots of views (incredibly important) so wants to keep it (none of those reasons being non-insane, yet it can't be noticed)... & even giving TikTok CEO a choice seat at inauguration... so f'ing crazy...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 19 01:08:08 ...so heaps of dumb young people will think Trump saved it just like a disturbing number of black people think Trump gave them money (as he crazily had his name put on the covid checks)... & they cited as reason for voting for him... & The Dumbening is only beginning...
Rugian Member	Sun Jan 19 06:29:20 "Sorry, TikTok isn't available right now A law banning TikTok has been enacted in the U.S. Unfortunately, that means you can't use TikTok for now. We are fortunate that President Trump has indicated that he will work with us on a solution to reinstate TikTok once he takes office. Please stay tuned! In the meantime, you can still log in to download your data." http://www.tiktok.com/us-landing Ahahahahahahahaha
Average Ameriacn Member	Sun Jan 19 06:41:08 Now big comeback of Truth Social???
obaminated Member	Sun Jan 19 10:07:15 Influencers are in meltdown. They are gonna have to get real productive jobs now.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 19 11:18:49 fuckhead: "SAVE TIKTOK!" "I’m asking companies not to let TikTok stay dark!..." TikTok chose to go dark, but i guess we must keep the charade going...
Paramount Member	Sun Jan 19 11:32:07 I thought they only banned free speech platforms in North Korea. But now also in USA.
obaminated Member	Sun Jan 19 11:43:58 Tiktok is owned by the Chinese communist government. It doesn't belong in the United States.
Paramount Member	Sun Jan 19 12:20:52 So why does the USA allow China to invest in the USA and why does Americans buy Chinese products?
Paramount Member	Sun Jan 19 14:16:20 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump I’m asking companies not to let TikTok stay dark! I will issue an executive order on Monday to extend the period of time before the law’s prohibitions take effect […] Americans deserve to see our exciting Inauguration on Monday, as well as other events and conversations. http://tru...Trump/posts/113855616848696050
obaminated Member	Sun Jan 19 14:17:02 Owning land should be reserved for citizens. Products are less important. They aren't gathering information and sending it to the Chinese government.
Forwyn Member	Sun Jan 19 14:31:07 "TikTok chose to go dark" Lol fucking retard
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 19 14:36:03 ^they did... & now they've stopped... what's changed? i'll predict obaminated's position changes to accepting 50% ownership
Paramount Member	Sun Jan 19 15:00:46 Obaminated, How do you know that Chinese cars aren’t spying on you and sending your info to the Chinese government?
obaminated Member	Sun Jan 19 15:02:37 I don't. I do know tiktok is.
obaminated Member	Sun Jan 19 15:09:32 Also trump isn't going to save tiktok in it's current form. He wants to force tiktok to stop data gathering that goes to the Chinese government. Otherwise tiktok is gone. Tomorrow he will issue an order to delay the ban of tiktok while he negotiates with them. If they refuse to reform than they are gone. It's funny. In his first term he was a Russian asset. That was profoundly disproven. Now in his second term he is a Chinese asset. Despite immediately and correctly calling covid the Chinese flu. You libtards have no comprehension of how consistently wrong, and thus not respected, your opinions on pretty much everything have become.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 19 15:16:17 he will be tricked by TikTok in extremely easy fashion
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 19 15:20:52 the message users see now on TikTok (after their brief fake-forced blackout): " Thanks for your patience and support. As a result of President Trump's efforts, TikTok is back in the U.S.! " Trump has done nothing in the last 24 hrs that changed anything... plus he's been meeting w/ TikTok CEO previously & the guy even coming to Trump's rally today + inauguration... completely obvious theater that the standard fools will fail to recognize
Forwyn Member	Sun Jan 19 15:43:44 "^they did... & now they've stopped... what's changed?" Is your argument that voluntarily complying with federal law is a "choice", or that not selling their proprietary algorithm that would compromise their global product is a "choice"?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 19 16:00:51 the law didn't require TikTok to shutdown... pretty sure it only would've affected those offering the app however, extremely completely obviously, nothing changed between them shutting it down then restarting it hours later, so completely obviously i am right Trump hasn't taken office (plus Trump hasn't suddenly changed some position) you can't see them ensuring every fucking user sees them praising Trump for saving Tiktok is a stunt?
obaminated Member	Sun Jan 19 16:18:46 Is trump got tiktok back, tiktok admits it was trump and tw refuses to accept that trump had anything to do with it.
Forwyn Member	Sun Jan 19 16:19:48 Which is easier, voluntarily providing a geographic shutdown until political clarity is provided, given: - The Biden admin indicated it would not begin enforcement on a fucking Sunday, and - Trump had not indicated concrete plans other than hoping the USSC would provide a delay Or waiting for every ISP and app store provider to shut down access tomorrow, and then have to work with each and every one of these to restore access when and if Trump provides the delay he says? I know that your retarded ass has settled on the Trump binary, that your opinion is whatever is antithesis to Trump, and that therefore, ByteDance thanking Trump means they are under the same tent and ergo any action is just public influence conspiracy. Take the tinfoil hat off bro. Acknowledge the army of corporate lawyers whose careers hinge on the past and future 48 hours.
obaminated Member	Sun Jan 19 16:29:45 If trump wanted to keep tiktok banned tw would be bitching about tiktok being banned.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 19 16:35:55 you people are fucking nuts Forwyn still ignoring NOTHING changed between them taking away the service, then giving it back & publicly giving full credit to Trump (Trump celebrating saving TikTok at his rally atm too btw, & again citing his views... & his repeatedly lie of winning the youth vote by 36 pts... he lost by 11... kinda different... him also comparing his fake # to Romney's to add to his brilliant fictional achievement) & to obaminated & Rugian & anyone else, the problem is HOW Trump makes decisions... he makes them on totally fucked up rationale (plus easily bribed w/ praise & money), that IS a problem also to obaminated, feel free to notice your flawless hero is going against your wishes... can you even acknowledge it (or even recognize it...)?
obaminated Member	Sun Jan 19 16:42:01 It's almost like trump is doing exactly what id want. Tiktok needs to change or it'll be banned. That's literally what trump is going to do. He doesn't want it immediately banned because if it is gone for a period of time the product will be replaced. Presidents shouldn't be working towards the destruction of businesses.
Forwyn Member	Sun Jan 19 16:44:28 "NOTHING changed between them taking away the service, then giving it back & publicly giving full credit to Trump" Lol. Kill yourself. Biden's game of chicken failed. They didn't sell. He said he'd wait for Trump to enforce it. Trump asked the court to delay. They did not. No clarity on Monday actions, Tiktok suspended service. Trump said he would delay it himself. They removed the suspension. HURRRRRR NOTHING CHANGED Literally kill yourself retard
Forwyn Member	Sun Jan 19 16:45:46 NOTHING changed Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump I’m asking companies not to let TikTok stay dark! I will issue an executive order on Monday to extend the period of time before the law’s prohibitions take effect, so that we can make a deal to protect our national security. The order will also confirm that there will be no liability for any company that helped keep TikTok from going dark before my order. Americans deserve to see our exciting Inauguration on Monday, as well as other events and conversations. I would like the United States to have a 50% ownership position in a joint venture. By doing this, we save TikTok, keep it in good hands and allow it to say up. Without U.S. approval, there is no Tik Tok. With our approval, it is worth hundreds of billions of dollars - maybe trillions. Therefore, my initial thought is a joint venture between the current owners and/or new owners whereby the U.S. gets a 50% ownership in a joint venture set up between the U.S. and whichever purchase we so choose. 9.72k ReTruths 39.4k Likes Jan 19, 2025, 9:00 AM
obaminated Member	Sun Jan 19 16:48:12 Lol tw fail. Yet again.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 19 16:52:28 oh yeah, i'm sure TikTok had no idea that was coming, he'd only been saying the same thing repeatedly since even during the campaign (& meeting privately w/ the CEO too, so OBVIOUSLY discussed this shit) (...& Biden said he wouldn't enforce it & leave it to the Trump admin before TikTok went dark) may your ability to spot the obvious eventually return
obaminated Member	Sun Jan 19 16:56:16 "Nothing changed, trump didn't do anything" Lol You are a moron who wouldn't credit Reagan for the hostage crisis resolution. It's almost like the mere presence of trump, like Reagan, forces adversaries to capitulate because they aren't like biden or Carter. Trump and Reagan make demands and follow through on them unlike biden and Carter who had no fucking follow through.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 19 17:10:34 did Trump suddenly announce -today- that he would save TikTok?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 19 17:12:04 here's what they put out originally: " Sorry TikTok isn't available right now. A law banning TikTok has been enacted in the U.S. Unfortunately that means you can't use TikTok for now. We are fortunate that President Trump has indicated that he will work with us on a solution to reinstate TikTok once he takes office. Please stay tuned!. " slurp.... (and they did not have to go dark EVEN IF the law was going to be enforced... it was only about providers not offering or updating the app)
Forwyn Member	Sun Jan 19 17:14:26 Sebs, tws: "Trump is famously inconsistent! We must abandon our global partnerships because no one knows what Trump is going to do!" Sebs, tws: "Trump is playing 4d chess with international CEOs to enact specific playbooks to further Trump's agenda"
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 19 17:30:47 i am not accusing Trump of being brilliant in any way here he's an easily manipulated fucking moron, TikTok making Trump a hero is either their play to influence him... or they planned it together... as he only cares about being worshiped rather than actually doing anything i'm quite certain when the TikTok CEO met w/ Trump at Mar-a-lago, & donated money, & agreed to attend inauguration, the fate of TikTok was discussed (plus there's Trump repeatedly publicly saying he'd stop the ban for weeks...) but yes, nothing can be noticed...
obaminated Member	Sun Jan 19 17:40:18 Trump has broken your brain. "Trump did nothing" Also "Trump talked the CEO about this" Also "Trump is easily manipulated" Also "Trump is an asshole who only wants to be worshipped" Also "Trump is gonna start a war with north korea" Also "Trump is a stooge for north korea" I can't imagine living as such a fucking moron that I not only constantly contradict myself but that I'm such a moron that I fail to recognize that I'm constantly contradicting myself solely because I've built my life around the opposition of a political figure. Fucking pathetic.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 19 18:25:31 Trump did NOTHING between them shutting down & starting up... he's not even able to do something... he's indicated for quite sometime, including in recent days, he would halt the ban on TikTok, him once again saying it this morning is not a change (plus they never needed to shutdown to begin with, we don't have authority over the Chinese) very very very very obvious stunt by TikTok "sorry addicts, your evil gov't has banned us so we are shutting down (even though we don't have to)... luckily we are negotiating w/ Trump to save us" <hours later, Trump w/ no power to do anything, nor even saying any new position, plus long been in contact w/ their CEO & CEO coming to his inauguration> "success, Trump has saved us! you may now freebase our product again"
obaminated Member	Sun Jan 19 18:36:35 Tw can't solve the riddle of where power resides. It confuses him and his brain shuts down.
Forwyn Member	Sun Jan 19 18:39:31 "we don't have authority over the Chinese" lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo You fucking retard They had no NA employees? No NA servers? lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 19 18:44:08 please explain what could have happened to TikTok if they hadn't chosen to shut down? & please explain what then made that no longer possible to happen between them going dark & restarting? ...feel free to factor in Biden saying he wouldn't enforce anything & was leaving to the Trump admin (though doubtful relevant as nothing could've happened) i anticipate zero answers to any of that
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 19 19:02:31 also, just look at it from the other direction TikTok making Trump look like a hero to all its addict users: is there a mystery that Trump would love that? of course TikTok would to it to gain favor (if not just planned w/ him explicitly, also to gain favor) definite theater
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 19 19:05:40 ...plus making users love Trump is in their self-interest because massive narcissist child Trump then gets more views/praise/fans which he already publicly notes as his main reason to protect it the obviousness is obviously obvious...
murder Member	Sun Jan 19 19:18:26 So for 50% equity the Chinese get to continue spying on and manipulating Americans? What else is he selling the Chinese for a share of the profits?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 19 20:02:28 here’s my prediction: TikTok will tell Trump they’ve made changes that address all concerns, all experts will disagree, Trump will side with TkiTok and push their message others feel free to make your own predictions
obaminated Member	Sun Jan 19 21:33:30 Tw thinks tiktok can't be banned. Is that really this morons argument?
obaminated Member	Sun Jan 19 21:36:30 Tiktok is gonna be half own Americans. Not an ideal solution but this is business and you don't get everything you want. We will ensure the Chinese government isn't collecting data on Americans anymore while also ensuring this massive social media platform isn't replaced by something we can't control.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Sun Jan 19 21:37:39 i'm -certain- it won't be... at least if Trump has anything to do w/ it... technically he shouldn't be able to stop the law on his own, but he doesn't let that stop him & R's are ok w/ that (& i'm certain they didn't have to go dark, it's self-evidently true since they stopped going dark without any change in anything official... just Trump saying in the future he would do something, which he already had been saying anyway)
obaminated Member	Sun Jan 19 21:40:33 Again. It's almost like trump has more authority than a senile biden. Why is this so hard for you to understand? And when tiktok is sold to Americans (former dodgers owner say he is ready to buy it for 20 B alongside another billion whose name I forget) will you credit trump? Seriously. Answer that question.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 20 00:49:05 if China keeps 50% control, i don't see how any goal was achieved (though i'm not remotely surprised you're now totally on board w/ that plan) however i'm skeptical it'll happen Trump has met w/ the CEO & had plenty of time to discuss, so you'd -think- he already has some kind of agreement by them before announcing his demand... but he's also a lazy idiot & may think Congress demands 100%, TikTok wants to give 0%, so 50% is a reasonable compromise they have him under their thumb so they don't have to give anything to keep his unwavering support
obaminated Member	Mon Jan 20 05:54:21 Tw didn't answer the question.
obaminated Member	Mon Jan 20 05:55:49 Can you imagine being so brainwashed that you can't see it? God damn that would be terrifying.
TheChildren Member	Mon Jan 20 06:19:33 why shuld china keep 50% control when it always been 100% control this is theft attempt like with anything else in ur country. go fuck off u litereally owned nothin, u made nothin, u have garbage instagram, and now through blackmail and extortion u want superior algortym, like how is suddenly 50% belong 2 u? roflmao at wut point do u suddenly owned 50%? rofl still in dreamland r u?
Paramount Member	Mon Jan 20 06:34:50 "this is theft attempt like with anything else in ur country." "We lie, we cheat, we steal" – USA
obaminated Member	Mon Jan 20 06:43:08 It's okay if the Chinese do it. It's bad if private American citizens do it.
murder Member	Mon Jan 20 08:06:18 "And when tiktok is sold to Americans (former dodgers owner say he is ready to buy it for 20 B alongside another billion whose name I forget) will you credit trump?" You want to credit Trump for a law he had no hand in and that he now opposes?
murder Member	Mon Jan 20 08:10:18 To clarify ... the law is in the books. TikTok has to either be sold, or shut down. There are no other legal options. Any other outcome before the law is changed or without the law being changed is illegal.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 20 11:23:00 "Can you imagine being so brainwashed that you can't see it?" that you went from wanting it banned, to now wanting 50% ownership? yeah i saw that why would i 'give Trump credit' for achieving something i never was looking for... i don't see 50% as a success of some kind... but you do as its what Trump came up with just like out of nowhere Trump decided owning Greenland is necessary for our existence & you accept that too
obaminated Member	Mon Jan 20 12:58:49 I wanted it banned because the issue was that it collected data that was given to the Chinese government. I didn't want it banned just to ban it. I'm not like you. I don't think in black and white. I focus on issues. Not terms and names.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 20 13:57:33 do you think if 50% even happens, that we would have full control of the algorithm & data? if Trump just says all things are resolved, will you blindly accept it, or will you recognize he's a total fucking idiot & fraud & doesn't remotely care about facts when making claims?
obaminated Member	Mon Jan 20 14:17:29 If we own half of a company, yes, you fucking moron, we will have access to what they are doing. How inept are you?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 20 15:24:21 ok buddy, we'll see how it plays out
murder Member	Mon Jan 20 15:45:22 So why not force it to go public?
obaminated Member	Mon Jan 20 17:38:37 Murder. That is an option. Hence the former dodgers owner being in talks to buy it.
murder Member	Mon Jan 20 18:17:32 A sale to the Dodgers owner isn't going public. That's a private sale.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 20 19:07:26 good lord... he's talking TikTok now (while signing exec orders he hasn't read...): 'they make telephones in China & nobody complains about it, but this they complain about' (demonstrating solid knowledge of the issue there...) also, of course bringing up how it helped him win... also critically important... so fucking insane
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 20 21:39:10 also he talked of TikTok having no value without his approval, while could be a $trillion with his approval, so that's why he thinks we should get 50% (& probably wants a cut of his own...) he had nothing to say about any of the concerns that made congress pass the law...
TheChildren Member	Tue Jan 21 01:04:20 thieves!!! look at these angloid orcs dunt even hide it anymo! "It's okay if the Chinese do it. It's bad if private American citizens do it. " >> at wut point has china strongarmed microsoft in2 givin 50% of windows codes, u fuckin ape moron
murder Member	Tue Jan 21 08:15:04 Trump doesn't understand how anything works #4847503 --------------------- "Essentially with TikTok I have the right to sell it or close it," Trump said from the Oval Office after signing the executive action on Monday. "We may have to get approval from China. I'm not sure. I'm sure they'll approve." -
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