Utopia Talk / Politics / Trump pardons 1500 insurrectionists

murder Member	Mon Jan 20 18:52:36 I bet Biden's pardons get far more criticism.
Rugian Member	Mon Jan 20 18:53:58 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA And he spent the day criticizing Biden's pardons. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Cherub Cow Member	Mon Jan 20 20:20:35 Fucking based. "Trump issues sweeping pardon of 1,500 Jan. 6 defendants, including rioters who attacked police" [AP News; January 20th, 2025] http://apn...e8b2a8f8cb602d5eaf85ac7b969606 The last gasp of the "insurrectionists" lie is dead.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 20 21:08:17 Yay, fuck tha police! they shouldn’t have gotten in the way, i guess?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 20 21:36:28 when he was signing it he claimed it was outside agitators who were the problem plus claimed the FBI was involved & that director Wray admitted it Trump misrepresenting how some of the rioters were also FBI informants... informants are scum (or associates of scum) or they wouldn't be useful informants, thus their presence demonstrates absolutely nothing yet, this is Trump... create your own reality, proof & facts are completely meaningless... & he's now acting on it as overlord...
Daemon Member	Mon Jan 20 22:26:08 Some said Vance will be worse if Trump dies early, but "And Vice President JD Vance had said just days ago that people responsible for the violence during the Capitol riot “obviously” should not be pardoned."
Cherub Cow Member	Mon Jan 20 22:42:02 [tumbletard (low-IQ TDS Bot)]: "Yay, fuck tha police! [/] they shouldn’t have gotten in the way, i guess?" lol. Now do the BLM/Antifa insurrection and the May 2020 White House Insurrection-attack. :D Do you care about *those* police and Secret Service injuries? Of fucking course not, lol :D Your time is up, tumblefag. The countdown is over. Time to cope and seethe, faggot.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 20 22:45:57 can you show a single identified person as attacking police that was let go? (also, 'hey they got to attack police, we should get to too!' is really solid shit... plus the whole pretending BLM was strictly a D movement, as R's don't think black lives matter i guess?)
Cherub Cow Member	Mon Jan 20 22:46:34 "can you show a single identified person as attacking police that was let go?" Keep moving the goal posts, faggot. Your time is up.
Cherub Cow Member	Mon Jan 20 22:48:00 [tumblefag (literal fucking retard)]: "as R's don't think black lives matter i guess?)" lol!!! I had to comment separately for this one. The absolute fucking stupidity of this statement. :D If you *still* do not know what BLM means, then you're either abysmally fucking stupid or incredibly disingenuous. I don't think tumblefag even has the brainpower for disingenuousness, so this question is already answered.
Dukhat Member	Mon Jan 20 22:58:01 Trump just lives in his own world. Dementia Don is going nuts.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Mon Jan 20 23:05:03 "Keep moving the goal posts" yes, real big move... actually being able to show a person committed the act to charge them also for your stupid claim to work, you'd have to show me ever saying BLM-related criminals deserved light treatment, when in fact i recall specifically posting that i opposed the LA cops letting looting occur ----------- "If you *still* do not know what BLM means" i know you think it's all about Marxism... the millions of marchers all had to tune in to Fox to learn that as nobody else was saying it... i'm sure none of the masses merely were chanting 'black lives matter' for the message that 'black lives matter', nope can't be that
Cherub Cow Member	Mon Jan 20 23:12:08 [tumblefaggot (nonce and confirmed retard)]: "yes, real big move... actually being able to show a person committed the act to charge them" You're an absolute fucking retard :D But we are working in the consequences of your evil principles now. Your lies are irrelevant since they no longer have power behind them. You ran out of time. You have zero days. I can re-explain to you why BLM was indeed a Marxist organization and that it was working on the logic of the slave revolt — just as your are — but it does not matter. The next step is merely your obliteration.
Cherub Cow Member	Mon Jan 20 23:13:42 *"just as you[] are"
Dukhat Member	Mon Jan 20 23:30:56 Pretty bad sign when the only outspoken supporter is the crazy cat lady of the forum.
Dukhat Member	Mon Jan 20 23:30:56 Pretty bad sign when the only outspoken supporter is the crazy cat lady of the forum.
Cherub Cow Member	Tue Jan 21 00:00:52 Weak ad hom, duck-fag. And other people might want to realize why this is a good thing — even in the case of those who "assaulted police". This is good because *most* of those prosecuted were over-prosecuted, wrongly targeted, and punished by process: http://americangulag.org/ There are people in jail *today* for non-events **four years ago**. Imagine that. Some of these people were left in solitary confinement for weeks at a time before they even saw a courtroom. Others were placed in *federal* prisons awaiting sentencing and trials. Many could not afford court fees and thus were forced to accept charges for non-issues such as "trespassing". And really think about that too: forced charges and lawfare for "trespassing" even after the doors were opened for everyone **by the police themselves**. Meanwhile, the right is so concerned with appearing "just" in the eyes of deranged psychopaths such as tumblefag — punishing the "most violent offenders" by selectively condoning DNC lawfare. But why? Why should we be concerned with throwing the book at January 6th political prisoners and "setting the example"? What have the tumblefaggots done with that information? They spat in our faces. Do you think the tumblefaggots gave a shit when May 2020 Insurrectionists constructed a guillotine in front of the White House and charged the gates to injure police and Secret Service? Fuck no. They do not give a shit. They downplay it. They do not fucking care. They want it. Kamala Harris set up bail funds for BLM/Antifa insurrectionists. Walz and his family fed information and supplies to BLM/Antifa insurrectionists to make them more effective at creating more property damage. The Regime systematically weakened police and law so that their insurrectionists would be under-punished, under-prosecuted, and empowered. Recognize the political moment. These people are our absolute enemies. These are armies. They see us punishing our own standing armies to appease *them*, and they think it's funny, since they would never do the same. You cannot convince a tumblefaggot that he's in league with Marxists because the lie and the evasion gives him power. You can never convince a sebgul because they know that this is deliberate warfare, and they have chosen their uniforms. So if the sebguls and tumblefaggots think it's fine to have their criminals in the streets (literally Bane's strategy of emptying BlackGate Prison), killing White people for sport, then you may want to ask why our "criminals" — who do indeed have morality and principles which we share and are not criminals at all in the context of January 6th — should have spent a single moment in prison. None of them should have gotten more than a misdemeanor and a court appearance. Trump has fixed a mistake that stood for far too long.
TheChildren Member	Tue Jan 21 01:01:31 hello darkness ur ol friend
Daemon Member	Tue Jan 21 01:29:16 All Germans are Team Trump today! http://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1881533640938852589
Cherub Cow Member	Tue Jan 21 01:36:39 It's called freedom of speech, dipshit-daemon, you fucking euro-cuck. Faggots in other nations might think it appropriate to hold their citizens in gulags longer for ironic sweatshirts, but that is faggot logic not to be observed by the ultimate arbiters of Glorious Ultra-Violence.
Daemon Member	Tue Jan 21 01:45:14 CC, I know that you have serious mental problems, you don't need to prove it every time.
Cherub Cow Member	Tue Jan 21 01:55:26 That's nice projection, faggot, but you're the same jew cuck who was posting subversive anti-Christian papal fashion show garbage, so your projections cannot fool anyone but yourself.
Paramount Member	Tue Jan 21 01:59:28 Democrats needs to shut up. Genocide Joe set a precedent sort of when he pardoned his own son.
Cherub Cow Member	Tue Jan 21 01:59:54 That left-wing "Pavlik Morozov" kid who turned-in his own father and got his father a 6-year prison sentence for January 6th is suddenly worried about the effects of pardons: ------------ "Jackson Reffitt, who ratted out his own father Guy Reffitt to the FBI for his role in the January 6th protests, now says he is “terrified” and has bought himself a gun after Donald Trump issued a blanket pardon to all those involved." http://x.com/ben_kew/status/1881551634121318482 ------------ Bolsheviks are suddenly scared that their Bolshevik oligarchs did not retain power long enough to save them from their treasons.
murder Member	Tue Jan 21 06:25:26 "Some said Vance will be worse if Trump dies early, but..." I wouldn't bet on Vance being better. People have been known to lie.
Rugian Member	Tue Jan 21 10:13:00 "One of the best known rioters to attack the Capitol on January 6 is Jake Angeli-Chansley, who went in shirtless and wearing horns and furs on his head. He was pardoned by Donald Trump yesterday, and wrote the following on X when he got the news: I JUST GOT THE NEWS FROM MY LAWYER... I GOT A PARDON BABY! THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP!!! NOW I AM GONNA BUY SOME MOTHA FU*KIN GUNS!!! I LOVE THIS COUNTRY!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!! J6ers are getting released & JUSTICE HAS COME... EVERYTHING done in the dark WILL come to light!" ROFL
Sam Adams Member	Tue Jan 21 10:26:25 Good. Dems blatant 2 tier justice system for j6ers and their own blm rioters was a blatant miscarriage of justice.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jan 21 18:51:08 so is it 'even' now & attacking cops is again punishable? i wasn't part of BLM & definitely not Maga, so i feel cheated of my free pass Trump also pardoned the Silk Road guy (dark web criminal), noting: "...The scum that worked to convict him were some of the same lunatics who were involved in the modern day weaponization of government against me. He was given two life sentences, plus 40 years. Ridiculous!" scum being the FBI... & the life sentence due to his murder-for-hire plotting...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jan 21 18:52:25 (but i'm sure Trump was well versed on the case... he always demonstrates that he is well-informed when making decisions...)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jan 21 19:45:03 Trump also posted the link to his crypto coin right next to that pardon post (and only talked of pardoning that guy when talking to crypto crowds)... but I’m sure unrelated...
murder Member	Tue Jan 21 20:26:12 Remember the good old days when "the big guy" only took 10%? ;o) -
obaminated Member	Tue Jan 21 20:54:10 Yeah, they were not attempting to take over the country. The left simply hated them for being trump supporters. Justice has been done.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jan 21 21:46:13 what words were they chanting? stop the steal... 1776... hang my pence... where's Nancy... fight for Trump! meaning they just wished to peacefully assemble inside the building, but cops beat upon them so they defended themselves... & smashed shit up... or something...
obaminated Member	Tue Jan 21 22:03:48 You are right tw. Unarmed civilians nearly toppled the US government on January 6th 2020 and they all deserve to spend the rest of their lives in jail. Good one buddy. Enjoy the next 4 years of watching trump transform this country into that dream that was once america. All while you bitch and moan about him using AI to develop a means to prevent people from getting cancer.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jan 21 22:13:42 hey always ignorant person, they weren't even charged w/ insurrection so why are you even mentioning it (though yes, they absolutely were trying to help Trump stay in power... what the fuck else would they have been trying to do? plus there's them saying so...) did many attack cops, yep... & charged w/ it when clearly shown did many vandalize property, yep & charged w/ it when clearly shown did many only get trespass charges as that's all that could be shown, yep... & no, they didn't get 20 years for that a very tiny handful... ~2? got the 20 year sentences because they actually were plotting overthrow
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jan 21 22:15:24 Trump was asked about pardoning the guy who dragged & tasered a cop & he said 'we'll take a look at that' oh that's nice... it will totally happen... & totally matter, as pardon already signed...
tumbleweed the wanderer	Tue Jan 21 23:05:42 "if you committed violence that day, obviously you shouldn't get a pardon" ~ JD Vance (some guy)
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Jan 22 02:45:26 [tumblefaggot (TDS bot; loser who is losing)]: "so is it 'even' now" No. Your punishment must be more severe. "Knocking him down won the first fight. I wanted to win all the next ones, too." What became of Ephialtes of Trachis? What became of the defeated Soviet collaborators who themselves fled the Bolshevik purges when they found out that they were just useful idiots who had enabled genocides? Find in them your fate. You were warned of these tidings. Your punishment is just beginning. "Even" will not begin to cover it. That implies that we are on the same justice system and that our principles protect you as well. They do not. Traitors, outlaws, and foreigners such as yourself are not under our justice. You condoned a slave's justice and allied with the slaves, being slavish and weak and deserving of no pities or monuments. The slave revolt is being suppressed just now. The time for argument is over. This is a reckoning. Get fucked.
obaminated Member	Wed Jan 22 07:01:12 If only I was single cc... if only I was single.
murder Member	Wed Jan 22 10:15:37 I don't know how to tell you this but ... you're brown. Haven't you been paying attention? She's a white supremacist. She wouldn't fuck you with someone else's penis. She would strip you of your citizenship, have you deported, and then have you executed for being a product of race mixing. Which I guess is kind of hot.
earthpig GTFO HOer	Wed Jan 22 11:29:42 "This is good because *most* of those prosecuted were over-prosecuted, wrongly targeted, and punished by process:" In other words, they got the standard treatment doled out by our criminal justice system, that I don't seem to recall a whole lot of objections about from you.
Rugian Member	Wed Jan 22 11:32:06 It was the hypocrisy that made them unpalatable. Republicans watched leftists engage in major nationwide rioting during the summer of 2020 and mostly get off scot-free, and not half a year later the J6 rioters were getting the book thrown at them. Two-tier justice system indeed.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 22 11:49:59 demonstrating the proper consequences would be the sane way to proceed... (also it wasn't the FBI just looking the other way at cop attacks & other violence... & it happened under Trump so apparently he was the one who went easy if blaming the feds...)
murder Member	Wed Jan 22 12:58:05 "This is good because *most* of those prosecuted were over-prosecuted, wrongly targeted, and punished by process" They fought and smashed their way through lines of police and through doors and windows ... in order to commit further crimes ... but they were "over-prosecuted"? They should have all gotten their necks stretched. -
murder Member	Wed Jan 22 13:01:52 "It was the hypocrisy that made them unpalatable. Republicans watched leftists engage in major nationwide rioting during the summer of 2020 and mostly get off scot-free, and not half a year later the J6 rioters were getting the book thrown at them." I know, right? It's like if you punch some random idiot in the face and get no jail time, but if you punch a Trump idiot in the face, they lock you up! Two-tier hypocritical justice system indeed! -
patom Member	Wed Jan 22 14:47:02 The police are receiving Trusk' message that they should stand back in the future if any MAGA goon squads attack anything.
williamthebastard Member	Wed Jan 22 14:54:36 The Kent State massacre is what happens when the left protest
williamthebastard Member	Wed Jan 22 14:58:18 The right killed US students for protesting against war in a government act that was more violent than Tainman Square and now theyre all pretending to be anti-war lol
Cherub Cow Member	Wed Jan 22 17:29:22 [earthfaggot (low-information commie fucktard)]: "In other words, they got the standard treatment doled out by our criminal justice system, that I don't seem to recall a whole lot of objections about from you." wtf are you even talking about, shitstain? You pop in here less than once a month and only after Reddit sees fit to give you the lowest of the low hanging fruits for low-information shitlibs such as yourself (e.g., surprise, surprise! earthfaggot heard about the Musk story because it was fucking *everywhere* with the shitlibs!), piss your little boy pull-ups after you insult people and they have the "audacity" to insult you back, and then run away back to faggot-land to mentally recover after refusing to read anything that gives you the littlest bit of cognitive dissonance and which therefore becomes incommunicable at your shitlib smug-fag waste-sniffing parties... and you think you can now successfully claim that I had no "objections" about the justice system? That's an argument that requires information, you ignorant fucktard. XD You are a cowardly piece of shit faggot who terminally holds a willful and suicidal ignorance, lol :D [Rugian]: "Two-tier justice system indeed." Exactly. Justice only means something when it is distributed by inviolable principles. Leftists openly, willfully, and maliciously violated these principles to target their political enemies and establish an anarcho-tyranny towards their "Utopia" of totalitarianism. They would gladly do this again. They only care about our principles now that the right holds power. They never cared before. We must remember this absolutely, otherwise know that traitors feign graciousness while waiting patiently for your back to be turned. We do not even need to convince the tumblefags of this. This is not a debate. That time has ended. It is the consequences of their treason exacted upon them. They do not have to understand, only fear the inevitable. [murder (liar)]: "She's a white supremacist." Speaking of ignorant fucktards, how many times are you going to tell this lie, faggot? No matter how many times I directly address it, you liars will keep telling this lie, because lies are in your sickly nature. [murder (left-wing dogma bot)]: "They should have all gotten their necks stretched." What you feel that they deserve is less than what the people who believe what you believe will have to receive to know fear again. Punishment must be a memory that you cannot flee. For left-wing immoralists without the brainpower for cognitive memory, memory can only be written in a pain.
Forwyn Member	Wed Jan 22 20:30:37 Imagine if every single BLM rioter had subreddits dedicated to exposing their identity, wherein they could submit findings to the FBI and immediately have a goon squad kicking in their door in a pre-dawn raid, and national media outlets were posting regular updates. The interplay between chronically online leftists, a national law enforcement agency, and legacy media is absolutely unprecedented, and folks who can't recognize this even when presented with evidence should be immediately and eternally denied suffrage.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Wed Jan 22 22:26:50 i heard some reporting somewhere that the mass pardon (unexpectedly including violent people) was as Trump wanted a big display on day one & there just wasn't time to review the cases seems extremely plausible as - Trump wouldn't give a shit about pardoning violent people as long as violent on his behalf - & absolutely would've wanted the big show - & explains why even JD Vance caught off guard (who even very recently said it 'obviously' wouldn't include violent offenders) so starting day 1 w/ a gross misuse of power... every sane person should be able to admit,him wanting a big show should -not- outweigh actually reviewing who is being pardoned... in fact should carry zero weight... (much like his TikTok views should carry zero weight instead of the bulk of it in that decision...) so much constant & obvious stupidity...
Forwyn Member	Thu Jan 23 09:22:04 So sad :'( cops who freaked out firing pellets and gas into crowds that were standing around shouting got more pushback as people got pissed off :'(
obaminated Member	Thu Jan 23 09:26:40 It's horrible. How can police brutality extend beyond the blacks?
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