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Paramount
Member Tue Jan 28 12:05:51
A little-known artificial intelligence lab out of China has ignited panic throughout Silicon Valley after releasing AI models that can outperform America’s best despite being built more cheaply and with less-powerful chips.

DeepSeek, as the lab is called, unveiled a free, open-source large language model in late December that it says took only two months and less than $6 million to build, using reduced-capability chips from Nvidia
called H800s.

The new developments have raised alarms on whether America’s global lead in artificial intelligence is shrinking and called into question Big Tech’s massive spend on building AI models and data centers.

In a set of third-party benchmark tests, DeepSeek’s model outperformed Meta
’s Llama 3.1, OpenAI’s GPT-4o and Anthropic’s Claude Sonnet 3.5 in accuracy ranging from complex problem-solving to math and coding.

DeepSeek on Monday released R1, a reasoning model that also outperformed OpenAI’s latest o1 in many of those third-party tests.

“To see the DeepSeek new model, it’s super impressive in terms of both how they have really effectively done an open-source model that does this inference-time compute, and is super-compute efficient,” Microsoft

CEO Satya Nadella said at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Wednesday. “We should take the developments out of China very, very seriously.”

http://www...-threatening-us-dominance.html

Paramount
Member Tue Jan 28 12:11:01
What has shaken the industry is DeepSeek's claim that its R1 model was made at a fraction of the cost of its rivals - raising questions about the future of America's AI dominance and the scale of investments US firms are planning.

DeepSeek has become the most downloaded free app in the US just a week after it was launched.

Responding to the news, Trump said the latest developments in China's AI industry may be "a positive" for the US.

"If you could do it cheaper, if you could do it [for] less [and] get to the same end result. I think that's a good thing for us," he told reporters on board Air Force One.

http://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gpq01rvd4o

So Trump is not going to ban DeepSeek?

TheChildren
Member Tue Jan 28 12:19:25
da genie out da botle. they cant ban it from da rest. Alrdy downloaded millions and millions and millions of times round da world.

everybody wants a piece. they can ban 4 there own companies aint gonna stop da rest of da world suddenly catchin up 2 murica literally overnight

yankoid neocons tried 2 horde this shit like f22, and how they wuld rule supreme 4 eva in da tech...

Hahaha, overnight da whole world suddenly has ai which is more capable lol

da copiuoid comments round da internet r frikkin gold.

TheChildren
Member Tue Jan 28 12:28:31
new chinese new year is 2day and it is startin with a BALABANG!!!! BABY

2 new 6th gen jets
new drone that makes murica look like 17th century
new ai

yeaaa now that wut im talkin about. u think this is it. Hell no.

china is unstoppable at this point.
butbutbut economy crashin soon?

keep listenin 2 2 whoever these snake oils salesmen, and see where that gonna get u yanks, u is a confused and toxic peeples right now

TheChildren
Member Tue Jan 28 12:48:49
"was going on?"

all these clowns across da internet askin.

well let tc xplain this shit 2 all these clowns in regular peoples language...

wut is going on, is u been surpassed and u been on tourin trippietrip denialland about it. keep copin and crying. we all need 2 laugh hard, at ur xpense lol

buhahaha. a great victory 4 da global south and socialists round da world.

Nimatzo
iChihuaha Tue Jan 28 13:05:34
This is is a disaster on some levels for humanity. Imagine after the trinity tests someone mase building nukes 1/1000 of the cost and then made all the plans publicly available.

Average Ameriacn
Member Tue Jan 28 13:11:32
Owned!

http://www...024-third-year-red-2025-01-27/

China's industrial profits fall 3.3% in 2024, third year in the red

TheChildren
Member Tue Jan 28 13:26:48
"disaster" lol

unbelievable these greedy fuckin piglets

always on da wrong side of da history and of course since u r such a piece of human shit, of course anything that shows u r losin will rile u up in2 cryin ur eyeballs out. can fill up a swimmin pool with those tears. can u fuckin be happy 4 human kind, or does everything need 2 be controlled da monopolistic moneygrabbin snakeoils where they blackmail or charge u 2 kidneys 2 use

u wonder who these cuckoolacucks r on da web with all these copin comments...well look no further. these brainwashed turdbags

and make no mistake, u r on da wrong side of history and on da losin side. period

Sam Adams
Member Tue Jan 28 14:42:25
Steel some old chatgpt code, insert ban on tianamen square and winnie the pooh references.

Muh china ai!!!

TheChildren
Member Wed Jan 29 01:20:28
cope dat shit!

williamthebastard
Member Wed Jan 29 02:16:03
So much for utterly corrupt American feudal crony capitalism, a conman’s sales pitch that has become a national religion for greedy fools and impoverished serfs, featuring Stark/Wayne superheroes modelled on comic books originally invented for semiliterate children, who alone are capable of optimal efficiency, never unnecessary costs, never unnecessary spending, never any waste, just maximized, beautiful, celestial perfection issued from their shining palaces

TheChildren
Member Wed Jan 29 05:36:59
hello darkness ur ol friend

http://www...evidence_chinas_deepseek_used/

it is simply BETTER. PERIOD.
GO COPE HARDER!!~!!

Seb
Member Thu Jan 30 07:27:46
Sam:

Pretty rich when what OAI did is steal a bunch of code, images and text (against T&C's) to train theirs.

obaminated
Member Thu Jan 30 14:52:15
Lol. Seb and fagfish want a communist country that censors it's citizens and controls information to defeat the western world.

Paramount
Member Thu Jan 30 16:04:27
China dropped their AI for free. China is giving back everything that the Yanks stole.

TheChildren
Member Sat Feb 01 02:53:04
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T71Lk5oPvvo

rofl

Sam Adams
Member Sat Feb 01 11:57:54

"Pretty rich when what OAI did is steal a bunch of code, images and text (against T&C's) to train theirs."

Learning from others work is illegal cries the socialist tard who drove the talent capable of this away from the uk and to america. If you hadnt fallen so far behind in computer tech youd be singing a different tune and we all know it.

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Paramount Member	Tue Jan 28 12:05:51 A little-known artificial intelligence lab out of China has ignited panic throughout Silicon Valley after releasing AI models that can outperform America’s best despite being built more cheaply and with less-powerful chips. DeepSeek, as the lab is called, unveiled a free, open-source large language model in late December that it says took only two months and less than $6 million to build, using reduced-capability chips from Nvidia called H800s. The new developments have raised alarms on whether America’s global lead in artificial intelligence is shrinking and called into question Big Tech’s massive spend on building AI models and data centers. In a set of third-party benchmark tests, DeepSeek’s model outperformed Meta ’s Llama 3.1, OpenAI’s GPT-4o and Anthropic’s Claude Sonnet 3.5 in accuracy ranging from complex problem-solving to math and coding. DeepSeek on Monday released R1, a reasoning model that also outperformed OpenAI’s latest o1 in many of those third-party tests. “To see the DeepSeek new model, it’s super impressive in terms of both how they have really effectively done an open-source model that does this inference-time compute, and is super-compute efficient,” Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella said at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, on Wednesday. “We should take the developments out of China very, very seriously.” http://www...-threatening-us-dominance.html
Paramount Member	Tue Jan 28 12:11:01 What has shaken the industry is DeepSeek's claim that its R1 model was made at a fraction of the cost of its rivals - raising questions about the future of America's AI dominance and the scale of investments US firms are planning. DeepSeek has become the most downloaded free app in the US just a week after it was launched. Responding to the news, Trump said the latest developments in China's AI industry may be "a positive" for the US. "If you could do it cheaper, if you could do it [for] less [and] get to the same end result. I think that's a good thing for us," he told reporters on board Air Force One. http://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gpq01rvd4o So Trump is not going to ban DeepSeek?
TheChildren Member	Tue Jan 28 12:19:25 da genie out da botle. they cant ban it from da rest. Alrdy downloaded millions and millions and millions of times round da world. everybody wants a piece. they can ban 4 there own companies aint gonna stop da rest of da world suddenly catchin up 2 murica literally overnight yankoid neocons tried 2 horde this shit like f22, and how they wuld rule supreme 4 eva in da tech... Hahaha, overnight da whole world suddenly has ai which is more capable lol da copiuoid comments round da internet r frikkin gold.
TheChildren Member	Tue Jan 28 12:28:31 new chinese new year is 2day and it is startin with a BALABANG!!!! BABY 2 new 6th gen jets new drone that makes murica look like 17th century new ai yeaaa now that wut im talkin about. u think this is it. Hell no. china is unstoppable at this point. butbutbut economy crashin soon? keep listenin 2 2 whoever these snake oils salesmen, and see where that gonna get u yanks, u is a confused and toxic peeples right now
TheChildren Member	Tue Jan 28 12:48:49 "was going on?" all these clowns across da internet askin. well let tc xplain this shit 2 all these clowns in regular peoples language... wut is going on, is u been surpassed and u been on tourin trippietrip denialland about it. keep copin and crying. we all need 2 laugh hard, at ur xpense lol buhahaha. a great victory 4 da global south and socialists round da world.
Nimatzo iChihuaha	Tue Jan 28 13:05:34 This is is a disaster on some levels for humanity. Imagine after the trinity tests someone mase building nukes 1/1000 of the cost and then made all the plans publicly available.
Average Ameriacn Member	Tue Jan 28 13:11:32 Owned! http://www...024-third-year-red-2025-01-27/ China's industrial profits fall 3.3% in 2024, third year in the red
TheChildren Member	Tue Jan 28 13:26:48 "disaster" lol unbelievable these greedy fuckin piglets always on da wrong side of da history and of course since u r such a piece of human shit, of course anything that shows u r losin will rile u up in2 cryin ur eyeballs out. can fill up a swimmin pool with those tears. can u fuckin be happy 4 human kind, or does everything need 2 be controlled da monopolistic moneygrabbin snakeoils where they blackmail or charge u 2 kidneys 2 use u wonder who these cuckoolacucks r on da web with all these copin comments...well look no further. these brainwashed turdbags and make no mistake, u r on da wrong side of history and on da losin side. period
Sam Adams Member	Tue Jan 28 14:42:25 Steel some old chatgpt code, insert ban on tianamen square and winnie the pooh references. Muh china ai!!!
TheChildren Member	Wed Jan 29 01:20:28 cope dat shit!
williamthebastard Member	Wed Jan 29 02:16:03 So much for utterly corrupt American feudal crony capitalism, a conman’s sales pitch that has become a national religion for greedy fools and impoverished serfs, featuring Stark/Wayne superheroes modelled on comic books originally invented for semiliterate children, who alone are capable of optimal efficiency, never unnecessary costs, never unnecessary spending, never any waste, just maximized, beautiful, celestial perfection issued from their shining palaces
TheChildren Member	Wed Jan 29 05:36:59 hello darkness ur ol friend http://www...evidence_chinas_deepseek_used/ it is simply BETTER. PERIOD. GO COPE HARDER!!~!!
Seb Member	Thu Jan 30 07:27:46 Sam: Pretty rich when what OAI did is steal a bunch of code, images and text (against T&C's) to train theirs.
obaminated Member	Thu Jan 30 14:52:15 Lol. Seb and fagfish want a communist country that censors it's citizens and controls information to defeat the western world.
Paramount Member	Thu Jan 30 16:04:27 China dropped their AI for free. China is giving back everything that the Yanks stole.
TheChildren Member	Sat Feb 01 02:53:04 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T71Lk5oPvvo rofl
Sam Adams Member	Sat Feb 01 11:57:54 "Pretty rich when what OAI did is steal a bunch of code, images and text (against T&C's) to train theirs." Learning from others work is illegal cries the socialist tard who drove the talent capable of this away from the uk and to america. If you hadnt fallen so far behind in computer tech youd be singing a different tune and we all know it.
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