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Rugian
Member Sun Apr 20 08:06:24
Wisconsin’s 402-Year Veto Rewrite

The latest 4-3 doozy from the Wisconsin Supreme Court is hard to believe. The Legislature passed a budget to annually increase the limit on how much tax revenue school districts may raise, by $325 per pupil, “for the 2023-24 school year and the 2024-25 school year.” Gov. Tony Evers abused his “partial veto” power, deleting words and an individual hyphen, making that text say “for 2023-2425.”

Meaning . . . an annual tax increase authorized for the next 402 years? Sure, why not, Justice Jill Karofsky writes for the liberal majority. The state constitution says the Governor may approve appropriation bills “in whole or in part,” but he “may not create a new word by rejecting individual letters.” The point of this limitation is to prevent vetoes from being used to write an entirely new law, like a ransom note glued together from magazine clippings.

Well, numbers aren’t letters, Justice Karofsky says: “The plain language of the constitutional text permits striking numbers written out with digits.” Knowing how bonkers this sounds, the majority ends its opinion with suggestions for how the Legislature could respond. One is to amend the constitution. Another is to “anticipate the governor’s use of her or his power when crafting appropriation bills.”

http://www...7f854027?mod=opinion_lead_pos4

murder
Member Sun Apr 20 09:14:00

As dishonest and stupid as that is, you realize that every single revenue adjustment that doesn't sunset is in effect a a change out to infinity, right?

As long as nothing binds the next administration from terminating it, it's not really a problem.

Also, it should go without saying that any sort of veto or alteration should send a bill or portion of a bill back to the legislature to accept or reject.

There are stupid laws in every state being abused by stupid or malicious politicians and judges.

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Dukhat
Member Sun Apr 20 17:09:10
Scott Walker did this too. He didn't have to as much because Republicans gerrymandered themselves into a majority.

Kinda funny, but the power is a little absurd but Republicans won't touch it because they still have a pretty good natural gerrymander and plan to abuse it in the future most likely.

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Rugian Member	Sun Apr 20 08:06:24 Wisconsin’s 402-Year Veto Rewrite The latest 4-3 doozy from the Wisconsin Supreme Court is hard to believe. The Legislature passed a budget to annually increase the limit on how much tax revenue school districts may raise, by $325 per pupil, “for the 2023-24 school year and the 2024-25 school year.” Gov. Tony Evers abused his “partial veto” power, deleting words and an individual hyphen, making that text say “for 2023-2425.” Meaning . . . an annual tax increase authorized for the next 402 years? Sure, why not, Justice Jill Karofsky writes for the liberal majority. The state constitution says the Governor may approve appropriation bills “in whole or in part,” but he “may not create a new word by rejecting individual letters.” The point of this limitation is to prevent vetoes from being used to write an entirely new law, like a ransom note glued together from magazine clippings. Well, numbers aren’t letters, Justice Karofsky says: “The plain language of the constitutional text permits striking numbers written out with digits.” Knowing how bonkers this sounds, the majority ends its opinion with suggestions for how the Legislature could respond. One is to amend the constitution. Another is to “anticipate the governor’s use of her or his power when crafting appropriation bills.” http://www...7f854027?mod=opinion_lead_pos4
murder Member	Sun Apr 20 09:14:00 As dishonest and stupid as that is, you realize that every single revenue adjustment that doesn't sunset is in effect a a change out to infinity, right? As long as nothing binds the next administration from terminating it, it's not really a problem. Also, it should go without saying that any sort of veto or alteration should send a bill or portion of a bill back to the legislature to accept or reject. There are stupid laws in every state being abused by stupid or malicious politicians and judges. -
Dukhat Member	Sun Apr 20 17:09:10 Scott Walker did this too. He didn't have to as much because Republicans gerrymandered themselves into a majority. Kinda funny, but the power is a little absurd but Republicans won't touch it because they still have a pretty good natural gerrymander and plan to abuse it in the future most likely.
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