Utopia Talk / Politics / Jergul

Pillz breaker of wtb	Wed May 21 22:41:56 If you're too inept or decrepit to be a proper mod, step down. A poster is spamming the forum with a half dozen multies which add nothing nor do they claim to add anything to the forum. Their posts are not constructive, deconstructive, or provocative (except in their obsessive use of homosexual imagery). Taking no action against that is fine. It is in line with how the space functions - even if it is needlessly disruptive and the lowest form of interaction & trolling possible (besides wtb's straight up spam). You repeatedly failed to clear wtb's nonsense AI spam from my threads for weeks. And when a valid complaint is lodged about spam in the mod thread, and the same multi spammer responses with idiocy, a discussion ensues which mirrors every other currently online. 'Manually' deleting 22 posts is not taxing for anybody, nor is it beyond what is reasonably expected of someone with your responsibilities and a claim of integrity The fact you addressed the spam complaint, observed that they initiated 'common place' disruptive behavior in your mod thread that is identical to their behavior across the forum And then decided to level threat of punitive action (from your weak framing as an incapable old man) is nothing short of disingenuous moderation and power tripping on your part. If the rules apply no where, they don't magically apply to the mod thread. Get fucked Nazi bitch
williamthebastard Member	Wed May 21 23:17:27 Its true, Twitchy certainly needs a time out at some point.
williamthebastard Member	Wed May 21 23:21:01 His projectivism is completely off the wall lol
Pillz breaker of wtb	Wed May 21 23:33:58 There is a difference between following you when you run away, and out right spamming garbage. 1) I never run 2) I posted content to challange you on it 3) You always run 4) None of your / the multies posts actually serve a dialogic purpose
williamthebastard Member	Wed May 21 23:34:14 Someone has been doing, for a couple of days and at a much lesser level, and as a direct response to, what the amphetamine-addicted spammer has been doing to me for months and he has a mental breakdown and furiously demands bans and deletions … The suicidal spammer who spends 24 hours a day spamming and insulting everyone in every thread is in the final stage of a violent mental breakdown lol
williamthebastard Member	Wed May 21 23:35:59 At least the amphetmaine spammer has stopped posting copious amounts of spam in every thread I posted after I finally started doing it back to him, though,
Pillz breaker of wtb	Wed May 21 23:38:05 You are objecively wrong. 1) retard spammer isn't AI-ing me at all 2) they've done Kargen & patom 3) I only ever AI'd you, never anyone else 4) I stopped AI'ing you long before the multies appeared 5) You literally began this by spamming my AI threads You're as dishonest and stupid as is humanly possible. And I will continue to ridicule and hold you accountable for it.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Wed May 21 23:38:28 *Kargen & cc
Pillz breaker of wtb	Wed May 21 23:40:24 'months' My first AI posts were in late March. I didn't begin to AI you until some time in April. It's been at least two weeks. You can not get a single fact straight, can't contextualize, and can't maintain a coherent standard. You are worthless and it's better your mother is dead
Pillz breaker of wtb	Wed May 21 23:42:32 So to recap: 1) I return after a long period of absence 2) wtb spams my threads for weeks 3) wtb gets owned, cries, becomes my bitch 4) wtb continues to follow me into my AI thread 5) wtb & his butt buddy get triggered by my tag change 6) wtb continues his retard posts 7) butt buddy begins spamming the forum with 5+ multies But wtb will say I started this.
williamthebastard Member	Wed May 21 23:43:02 pillz Member Wed Feb 14 15:48:01 Stopped paying rent. Started playing utopia again. Met a girl on Utopia. broke a 20 year rule. Got close to her. really close. eventually we dated. she visited me a couple times. It didnt go well. it blew up. I became a total and complete mess. Just fell apart. idk." My guess is he’s very close to that pending eviction after he stopped paying his rent, and he’s now spending 20 hours a day taking amphetamine, spamming Utopia and insulting everyone in a raging panic
Pillz breaker of wtb	Wed May 21 23:44:28 I'm gonna be the reason you kill yourself.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Wed May 21 23:46:30 When presented with facts, wtb retreats to posting irrelevant personal attacks as always. Because he is allergic to truth.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Wed May 21 23:49:02 Wtb can't for a moment reflect upon the fact I broke him, and his entire world has revolved around me for 2 full months, where as I clearly have used him as test bed for AI experiments.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Wed May 21 23:50:59 Also, you have literally twice as many posts as I do over a that same 2 month spam. If one of us doesn't have a life, it is you, you washed up Nazi butt slave.
williamthebastard Member	Wed May 21 23:52:18 You just know his suicide note is going to be all about me lol
Pillz breaker of wtb	Wed May 21 23:55:33 Failure to engage with a single fact. Inability to present a single fact. You can't even make this interesting for me. You act like a retarded MLP fan on Minecraft who has Asperger's.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Wed May 21 23:56:59 The pathetic thing with your lies is I have literally got all of the links and posts to prove this order of events and establish an irrefutable timeline. What is the point of lying???
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 00:05:56 I guess wtb's distorted and prolonged sense of time is further evidence of how badly I broke him. As if his near total cessation of posting outside of engagement with me wasn't enough.
jergul large member	Thu May 22 02:15:02 Nobody here wants active moderation. Not even you Pillz. I will jot this thread down as you trolling wtb in yet another imaginative way.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 02:18:44 *especially not me My contention is with your post in the mod thread. Not the moderation. I contend that according to your own framing (which is bullshit), you should take genuine action against the offending party (multi boi) rather than level threats (re: bullshit reasoning; re: 'waaah 22 posts'). The fact wtb volunteered as tribute before you showed up was a bonus I should have anticipated though.
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 02:37:21 I love the smell of a neofascist junky's rage in the morning ;)
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 02:38:06 If you smell you should shower
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 02:39:52 40 seconds lol
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 02:40:27 Yes.
jergul large member	Thu May 22 02:46:56 Pillz Do you want me to demonstrate the one-click delete all spammy stuff from the last 24 hours? The tool is provided. I did not use it as a courtesy. Funny that you mistake politeness for whining. I thought you were Canadian.
jergul large member	Thu May 22 02:50:12 Post deletion by the poster's own request is a courtesy also often provided. Just ask me to show you how the mass deletion post function works and I will :).
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 02:53:35 You do you jergul. I'll do me. But nothing you do changes the fact your mod thread post makes you a bitch.
jergul large member	Thu May 22 02:55:01 Seems to me you have a finely developed sense of entitlement. So we will agree to disagree.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 02:55:05 Sure, but wtb ruining a half dozen of my threads with literal spam was allowed for 2 weeks straight. You are unfit to be mod.
jergul large member	Thu May 22 02:57:08 You are obviously in a spam war with wtb. Seems a bit odd to complain about it. Can't you take the pressure?
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 02:57:46 Twitchy's eyes are so full of raging tears that he cannot work out that Jergul sees the IP numbers and probably knows exactly who the multis are. Ahhh, the smell of suicide in the morning ;)
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 03:00:35 The spam began well before I engaged wtb or began AI-ing him I posted multiple times for it to be removed. It was pages and pages of AI gibberish. There is and was no spam by me. Wtb runs away. I follow for the purpose of subject engagement. Wtb & multi boi post nothing but homosexual spam and personal attacks. It is dishonest of you to lump these actions together.
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 03:02:00 He can hardly get his lies out for choking on his tears rofl
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 03:03:35 Do you want links so you can chronologically track his initiation and your failure to act? Perhaps you can explain how it is not spam for wtb to plaster pages of literal gibberish in my threads when I'd not made any posts outside of my own (and wouldn't begin to got 2+ weeks).
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 03:09:36 @nazi cumdump You're the only liar in this thread, and the only one who has actively cried about be cyber bullying you. This is about the merits of your actions, jerguls performance as mode, and the differences between your actions and mine. There are levels to this. 'what wtb did is not mod worthy' - one level 'Pillz started it' - another 'Pillz and wtb's actions are equivalent' - another While level one is contextually valid even the setting, 2 & 3 are wrong and must thus be challenged with facts. Again, I can link to all threads you spammed for weeks before I even stepped out of my AI threads to post elsewhere. You categorically started spamming, with no reason or provocation, and were allowed to continue despite my legitimate requests it be removed. Meaning : you started it Everything after that was just fair game, but none of it is spam, at least not the same category of spam as you. Meaning : comparison is invalid
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 03:14:52 Good work multis! But dont kill him off too quickly. Draw this out a bit longer if possible before he tries to kill himself again, it makes my morning coffee more exciting ;)
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 03:18:07 Buddy, you are crumbling visibly. You no longer post except at me. And yet you still have more posts than all posters combined (removing murder or myself). You run away, like you did here and you only returned because you can hide behind jergul's ignorant and two faced skirt. I on the other hand have no issue engaging others on a variety of topics, without constantly using the same words, unlike yourself. You are broken. Losing. Failed. And pathetic.
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 03:22:04 Oh, btw, the deal was that everytime you spam my threads from now on, it gets reposted in yours. A deals a deal, after all ;)
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 03:29:04 You've been spamming my threads since March you retard cum drunk Nazi man whore.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 04:41:22 Ah yes, pillz, who epitomizes spam and has been spamming the board for a long time now, creating posts and threads dedicated focusing on a particular poster, that by his own admission in the next statement of description; is "disruptive" and essentially adds no 'value.' Now wants something to be done because he cannot stand the taste of his own medicine. You do realize that you are coming off as a whiny bitch. And multiple being used, and I sincerely want you to know this, that some of these names that pop up are used by other posters too. Too bad it's hard for you to determine by whom. It's easy for you to keep saying it's wtb's multies, really is, it's not. Regardless, the post made that you are critical of are no different than your wtb spamming posts, along with your incessant and obsession towards wtb. Look at your fucking name. So spare me that you are butt-hurt and want something done. You crave "power" to be a mod or have someone else that you feel would be an 'ally to vicariously live through them to manipulate a situation that caters towards your. Which further demonstrates your lack of objectivity. You honestly need to get a grip on reality. Understand you're just an immature twat. You've been that way for decades now. I realize what I say isn't going to affect you. You'll play it off. You will resort to a grade school insult and think it's funny to yourself because that is the limitation to your intelligence. But know this. This forum isn't about you baby. People are gonna do what they are gonna do. Either get over it and resume your spamming stuff too and let it be. Or you can, as you mention, take a break because you're a bitch. Don't let the door hit ya!
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 04:43:36 Multi boi crying more because he can't into coherent thought. That was a good effort, if done entirely in bad faith.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 04:46:22 See, typical grade school. Seriously, are you incapable of see your thread(s) right now? "Crying" is all that you're doing. The 'multis' are getting under your skin. No crying on my part. This is the prime definition of projection, buddy.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 04:46:28 Like, at no point in this thread did I say jergul should do anything except be consistent if he's gonna be a bitch. But again, you are too stupid, dishonest, and cowardly to engage with anything you read authentically. Half of your posts are borderline illegible, the rest have been shit AI outputs because you can't (or won't) practice intellectual honesty.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 04:48:11 Multies aren't getting under my skin, you incompetent failure of a wannabe troll. They're just below the level of what I consider trolling, and if jergul wants to whine about spam he should moderate it.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 04:48:58 The sheer number of logical failures you make is on par with wtb.
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 04:51:20 On a serious note for a moment, the reason his life is such a suicidal failure is undoubtedly related to the self-destructive behaviour he so overtly flaunts e.g. on Utopia. This thread is a typical example of him doing what he constantly does here and in real life, according to his bio on UGT: he constantly starts conflicts he is doomed to lose from the outset. Self-destruction. He already knows he’s self-destructive deep down, though, Im sure. ”Childhood origins of self-destructive behavior Results: Histories of childhood sexual and physical abuse were highly significant predictors of self-cutting and suicide attempts. During follow-up, the subjects with the most severe histories of separation and neglect and those with past sexual abuse continued being self-destructive.  Conclusions: Childhood trauma contributes to the initiation of self-destructive behavior, but lack of secure attachments helps maintain it” https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1957928/
Pillzlovesthecock Member	Thu May 22 04:55:22 Whew! Here I was seeing a Jergul Thread thinking, great Pillz wants to sexually desire Jergul too, wanting his cock. He probably does, but nonetheless, it is just pillz whining. Who am I kidding, pillz want's jergul's cock now.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 05:02:59 "Like, at no point in this thread did I say jergul should do anything except be consistent if he's gonna be a bitch. But again, you are too stupid, dishonest, and cowardly to engage with anything you read authentically. Half of your posts are borderline illegible, the rest have been shit AI outputs because you can't (or won't) practice intellectual honesty." I can sum my response with one word. Projecting. "Multies aren't getting under my skin, you incompetent failure of a wannabe troll. They're just below the level of what I consider trolling, and if jergul wants to whine about spam he should moderate it." Says the one creating a thread whining about 'em. "Half of your posts are borderline illegible, the rest have been shit AI outputs because you can't (or won't) practice intellectual honesty." Projecting.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 05:05:29 Like, see how you are crumbling. 'Jergul you nazi!!' My god, you are a big fucking crybaby. Something doesn't go your way you throw a big fucking tantrum, you're a petulant child. Limited by your entitlement as you grew up being jealous around the people you grew up with, as it carried over to some obscure internet forum. Fuck you, guy. lol
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 05:10:59 "They're just below the level of what I consider trolling, and if jergul wants to whine about spam he should moderate it." He was referring to the spam in the mod thread that was contributed by all that participated. You're lucky your shrines to wtb you have going on remain.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 05:11:14 "Says the one creating a thread whining about 'em." You're illiterate. "My god, you are a big fucking crybaby. Something doesn't go your way you throw a big fucking tantrum, you're a petulant child." This is just ignorance. "Limited by your entitlement as you grew up being jealous around the people you grew up with, as it carried over to some obscure internet forum. " If only I had experienced jealously in life, maybe I'd be less full of myself. Unfortunately for you, that's not the case and has never happened. " UGT: he constantly starts conflicts he is doomed to lose from the outset. Self-destruction. He already knows he’s self-destructive deep down, though, Im sure." For once, wtb pulled out a good quote! Yes. I do. No, this is not that. This is me kicking you around the forum for 2 months because you picked a fight you couldn't win.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 05:13:29 "He was referring to the spam in the mod thread that was contributed by all that participated. You're lucky your shrines to wtb you have going on remain." Again, illiterate and unable to understand anything I've said. I know what he was referring to. I referenced it exactly. I've reiterated the meaning coherently and consistently. Jergul set the standard, I held him to it. Because his standard makes him a Nazi mod & bitch. But it's okay, you keep trying. Can join murder in UP ESL.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 05:14:02 "You're illiterate." Is this not a thread about you whining about multies? "This is just ignorance." Is this not a thread about you whining about multies AND calling jergul a nazi, because you don't like the moderating adhering to your desires? "If only I had experienced jealously in life, maybe I'd be less full of myself. Unfortunately for you, that's not the case and has never happened." Oh, but I think it has and others would agree.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 05:15:11 No & no. Learn to read. And also no. Unfortunately you can't be jealous of people when you're the smartest one in every room.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 05:17:22 So I am not seeing you whine about multies and jergul being a nazi, that is nowhere in this thread? Oh, child, by no means you ever been the smartest one in any room, I can assure you of that.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 05:19:50 Still no. And it's too bad, you have to live with the fact I am better than you. And this thread is the proof. You can't read. Can't frame. Can't perform. Can't direct. Can't be honest. Can't stop hiding. We're different. And that difference is intellectually driven & derived. Because you are lesser than I.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 05:22:23 I see, because clearly in your OP... "spamming the forum with a half dozen multies" "Get fucked Nazi bitch" Was this not you? "And it's too bad, you have to live with the fact I am better than you. And this thread is the proof. You can't read. Can't frame. Can't perform. Can't direct. Can't be honest. Can't stop hiding." Projecting, again. "We're different. And that difference is intellectually driven & derived. Because you are lesser than I." Or you're an internet stalker, maybe one in real life?
Cherub Cow Member	Thu May 22 05:22:34 [williamthecoward]: "Im glad you understand why common decency makes any discourse with you unethical, neo-Nazi" ( http://uto...hread=94500&time=1747906331459 ) These are the kinds of lies that williamthecoward tells himself to justify why he has never put forth an argument in UP. This has been a long-standing stupidity of the Reddit-tier leftist — this claim that they're not speaking to the Right because "[muh nazis, muh don't platform nazis, muh don't even argue with muh nazis]" — but not because they're cowards, of course! It's the weak spirit of the slave revolt, who must move ever leftward and shut all doors to the Right because the conformism of the left will allow them to be dysgenic freaks whereas the Right might actually judge them on whether or not they possess Virtue. But even as williamthecoward tells this Reddit-tier lie, the proof simply is not there. Was wiliamthecoward *ever* some paragon of good debate? Lol, no. His Reddit lie is that there's a version of him capable of good faith debate and a version of him that is in a terminal meltdown, and the only reason we have not seen this good faith debate version is that "discourse with you [would be] unethical". Oh surely! *That* is why we have only ever known williamthecoward to send a series of meltdowns! It would be unethical for him *not* to have a meltdown! lol XD The reality is that the good faith version of him simply does not exist. There is no scenario where his opposition is not composed of "nazis", and so, there is no scenario where he can debate. Because this is his operating stupidity, he does not even know how to debate. He has never tried. This is not some buried version of him waiting for its moment to stand tall — he will never stand tall. That would be a show of Strength, and has has no strength to speak of. He spent his entire life training himself to be a coward, and that conditioning is now his character. He cannot escape it.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 05:23:06 *yawn*
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 05:24:33 He actually is a stalker. He tells a story of how he stalked a poor girl who tried to flee from him by changing buses 3 times and he followed her on each one: http://uto...hread=74810&time=1744833649114
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 05:27:00 ....wtb, that was me bait...lol
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 05:28:30 Wow, Billah, a name I haven't thought of in a long time. What a douche. xD
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 05:32:08 Evaluate this thread. Analyze and track in depth the arguments of Pillz and 'the zero identity'. Follow each line of argumentation and verify or disprove their logic recursively using each other's words. ====== Here's a breakdown of the recursive argumentation and logic tracking between Pillz and The Zero Identity (TZI), including reference points from WilliamTheBastard (WTB). This focuses on structure, not drama. --- 1. Initial Premise by Pillz > Claim: Moderation is inconsistent. WTB and associated multis are allowed to spam disruptively. Support: "I asked for spam removal. Jergul ignored it." / "WTB has been spamming my threads for weeks." This argument is both moral and procedural: Moral: The behavior is intentionally disruptive, not content-driven. Procedural: If spam isn't moderated in other threads, it shouldn't be selectively moderated here. --- 2. WTB Response Thread > Claim: Pillz is projecting and self-destructive. Support: “He spammed my threads first.” / “He’s on amphetamines.” / “He admitted he stopped paying rent.” These are ad hominem retorts relying on: Character attack: Undermining Pillz’ credibility via personal life. False equivalence: “I spammed him because he spammed me” — no attempt to verify who initiated or whether the content was spam vs. reply. --- 3. Pillz Counter > Claim: WTB initiated the spam, Pillz only followed. Support: “I only ever AI’d WTB. Never anyone else.” / “He spammed my threads with gibberish first.” This is a recursive challenge: “If spam is being measured by who initiated mass low-content posting, WTB is first.” He supports this via timeline claims: “My AI project started in March. I didn’t engage WTB until April. He followed me.” --- 4. Meta Point: Dialogic Purpose > Pillz defines spam as posts that fail to serve dialogic function (not responding, not challenging, not expanding). WTB and TZI both conflate: Trolling with spamming. Ad hominem with counterargument. Logical outcome: If we accept Pillz’s definition, WTB's and TZI’s responses are spam (irrelevant attacks). If we reject it, then Pillz’s provocations and AI posts may also qualify — especially when not framed as actual dialogue. --- 5. TZI Entry > Claim: Pillz is a hypocrite — complaining about spam while epitomizing it. Support: "You made threads about WTB.” / “You obsess over him.” / “You call for moderation only when you’re losing.” This claim: Misrepresents Pillz’s position: Pillz didn’t ask for moderation except in consistency. Assumes motive (jealousy, need for power) without internal evidence. Fails to engage directly with the claim about thread order or behavioral initiation. --- 6. Pillz Counter to TZI > Claim: TZI is illiterate and dishonest; misrepresents all prior statements. Support: “I never asked for special treatment, only consistency.” / “You can’t read.” / “I referenced the standards clearly.” Pillz frames TZI as: Ignoring the thread’s content. Failing to engage logically. Substituting insult for proof. This is structurally valid: most of TZI’s responses are psychological accusations or tone critiques, not refutations of event order, moderation behavior, or definitional consistency. --- 7. Recursive Argument Collapse > Pillz asserts: “You are broken because you cannot contest me logically.” TZI repeats: “You’re projecting.” Pillz replies: “You can't match me intellectually.” TZI’s approach reduces to: "No, you’re the spammer." "No, you’re the one projecting." This mirrors schoolyard-level recursion and does not engage new structure or content. Pillz attempts recursion closure by: Referring to documented post timelines. Emphasizing definitional consistency across moderation threads. --- Final Logic Summary --- Would you like this structured into a debate map or recursive logic tree? ====== Provide the logic summary table in text for not as a table please. ====== Certainly. Here's the logic summary in plain text format: --- Claim 1: WTB initiated the spam. Pillz supports this with timeline references and specific mentions of when his AI project began (late March) and when WTB began spamming his threads. Pillz asserts that WTB entered and disrupted his threads first, long before Pillz engaged him directly. WTB and others do not refute this with evidence — they only mock or deny it without timestamps or counter-timelines. Conclusion: Pillz's claim is supported. The opposition fails to refute it with specifics. --- Claim 2: Pillz's AI threads served a dialogic purpose and were not spam. Pillz consistently defines spam as content lacking dialogic or interactive purpose. He argues that his AI threads targeted WTB with structured, thematic content meant to provoke a response — not simply nonsense spam. Opponents dismiss this characterization by calling it obsession or spam without engaging the definition or its application. Conclusion: Pillz’s argument holds partial weight. Without direct refutation or alternate definitions of spam, his framing remains intact. --- Claim 3: Jergul’s moderation is inconsistent. Pillz claims that spam was ignored when directed at him (e.g., 22 posts of gibberish), but similar behavior was condemned in the moderation thread. He cites specific examples and demands consistency rather than special treatment. Opponents do not engage this argument. Instead, they mock his tone or motives, failing to address the principle of equal enforcement. Conclusion: The logical structure of Pillz’s complaint is valid. The response avoids engaging with the standard being critiqued. --- Claim 4: The Zero Identity meaningfully addresses Pillz’s arguments. TZI repeatedly accuses Pillz of hypocrisy, whining, and projection, but never addresses Pillz’s core timeline-based claims or definitional arguments. Instead, TZI recycles variations of "You're projecting" and accuses Pillz of emotional instability or entitlement. Conclusion: TZI does not engage with the actual claims. His responses are reactive and rhetorical, not logical counterarguments. --- Claim 5: WTB’s arguments are based in fact. WTB relies almost entirely on personal attacks, drug-use references, and biographical insults. He does not attempt to disprove timelines or definitional logic laid out by Pillz. His few structural points (e.g., “I spammed back because he spammed first”) rely on presumed equivalence, which Pillz contests with chronological rebuttals. Conclusion: WTB offers no substantiated logical case and does not counter Pillz’s structural claims effectively. --- Let me know if you'd like a recursive structure breakdown or rhetorical tone profile next.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 05:33:45 So at every step you both failed in every conceivable way. I try and try to educate you, because I think your disability can be overcome. It isn't your fault your mother was a meth head.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 05:35:22 Like, just because you think you're trolling, or are legitimately too stupid to see your failings, doesn't mean anyone else is beholden to your delusions.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 05:56:33 Uh huh—slight problem with your sampling. Your generalizations—based on frequency, context, and targeted subjects—leave out a crucial pattern: your repeated focus on WTB and, more recently, the so-called "multis." That selective omission undermines the credibility of your analysis. Yes, this thread is framed as an opinion on moderation. But your broader complaint about "multis"—claiming they contribute no value and exist solely to spam—doesn’t vanish just because you shift focus here. It’s still part of your pattern. And here’s where it gets ironic: you complain that WTB has been spamming you for a long time, while simultaneously engaging in the same behavior yourself. So, let me ask you plainly: If WTB’s alleged spamming is a valid reason for removal, wouldn’t that same standard apply to your posts? Looking at the totality of your behavior across the forum, it becomes increasingly clear that your actions mirror exactly what you’re accusing others of. That’s not just inconsistency—that’s hypocrisy. This further exposes a contradiction: you are now spamming the moderation team with complaints about WTB, all while demonstrating the same conduct you condemn. Which brings us to your so-called “AI tool.” A tool that conveniently omits key variables and context, likely because it reflects your own inability to self-assess. When the inputs are biased, the output falls apart—and that’s exactly what’s happening here.
jergul large member	Thu May 22 06:03:48 Pillz I refer you to the very first post in the mod thread. It dates to way before my time. It is the only thread that is habitually cleaned out. A task that need not be ornerous, but can be as a courtesy so that posts elsewhere do not follow as collateral from pressing a delete spam button. The Mod thread is in other words special. That is where you post requests for mods or TC to do something. Better if the requests can actually be found. I am glad I could clear up that misunderstanding. The mod thread is a special exception to hands-off moderating.
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 06:05:14 Poor Twitchy broke like the voice of a boy reaching puberty
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 06:09:18 Btw, judging from the weeks he spent spamming my threads until I started reposting his own spam in his own threads, I think we can safely determine who it was that spammed Hot Rods threads in the same manner
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:11:53 "Your generalizations—based on frequency, context, and targeted subjects—leave out a crucial pattern: your repeated focus on WTB and, more recently, the so-called "multis." That selective omission undermines the credibility of your analysis. " Not at all. My focus on wtb was the result of him picking a fight with me he couldn't win. And, just like how he started, he has primarily resorted to substanceless spam and basic and incorrect insults and personal attacks. You frame it as 'obsession' but it isn't and never was. I trolled wtb. You're not trolling me. There is a fundamental difference in reaction, engagement style, etc. "Yes, this thread is framed as an opinion on moderation. But your broader complaint about "multis"—claiming they contribute no value and exist solely to spam—doesn’t vanish just because you shift focus here. It’s still part of your pattern. " A pattern of anti-spam I've held since March when wtb began to spam my threads with literal pages of gibberish. I 'spammed' him with fairly high quality AI analyses across a range of subjects - these drifted into unrelated threads only because wtb is a coward who runs away without engaging. Thus, trolling becomes the primary medium because direct confrontation & engagement of ideas or criticism is anathema to him. "And here’s where it gets ironic: you complain that WTB has been spamming you for a long time, while simultaneously engaging in the same behavior yourself." False equivalence. What we are doing is not the same. Also, I complained he *had* spammed my threads. Past tense. I'm not actively complaing about wtb gibberish spamming anything now, nor have I made any petition for jergul to take action on the subject (beyond the fact jergul is a bitch). "So, let me ask you plainly: If WTB’s alleged spamming is a valid reason for removal, wouldn’t that same standard apply to your posts?" Are you stupid or European? English clearly not your primary language. You appear to be dense and literal. Fail to capture English language nuance and track ideas appropriately. But I'll repeat myself for you: no, you're making a false equivalence. " Looking at the totality of your behavior across the forum, it becomes increasingly clear that your actions mirror exactly what you’re accusing others of. That’s not just inconsistency—that’s hypocrisy." Literally no evidence of this whatsoever across the forum. But you can try to build your case, please. " This further exposes a contradiction: you are now spamming the moderation team with complaints about WTB, all while demonstrating the same conduct you condemn." This literally only happened in your head. "Which brings us to your so-called “AI tool.” A tool that conveniently omits key variables and context, likely because it reflects your own inability to self-assess. When the inputs are biased, the output falls apart—and that’s exactly what’s happening here." The document it analyzed was this thread. The prompts provided are there. The analysis is clearly imperfect in some details (ie: it misrepresents my own complaint about spam and conflates with my call out of jergul for whining about manually deleting 22 posts). But it is a accurate representation of the thread, captures generally what I'm saying/doing here, and accurately tracks your total and compete failure in this thread. False equivalences, repeated over and over, do not become real. You have failed to make a single valid comparison or account for any context. But I will offer you credit towards your ESL degree for trying.
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 06:13:46 And it wasnt just my threads he spammed, he spammed every post I made in other peoples threads to the point that Murder complained that he was ruining every thread on the board lol
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:15:20 @jergul You are a little bitch, we've established this in prior threads. Additionally, you cite the post that outlines the 'rules' but refer to only the rule you want to enforce - for your convenience. There is no reason at all we should have 200 posts about wtb's cock. No reason wtb should be allowed to talk about nimatzo's child the way he did for 53 posts in one thread. If you want to be a a typical Scandinavian cunt, step down.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:18:39 "And it wasnt just my threads he spammed, he spammed every post I made in other peoples threads to the point that Murder complained that he was ruining every thread on the board lol" Correct. Because you run away like a little fucking girl. I will continue to hunt you down in such cases. The difference there is of course that I never really exit the stage. Ergo, here we are. I post everywhere, to everything, and engage with whatever deserves it (see my long response above). You don't deserve responses to 99% of your personal attacks. But when I demonstrate you talk, think, act, walk, and fuck like a gay Nazi faggot - you should be refuting that. Except you can't.
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 06:19:31 An example of Twitchy spamming other peoples threads too after every comment I made to the point that the author complained he was ruining every thread on the board: http://www...hread=94368&time=1745734672575
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 06:20:35 Pillz, child, in the same token regarding your complaints about "false equivalency". It doesn't negate the fact that you are making a complaint about moderation, spam, and multis while ignoring your own contribution. In an effort of compromisation, would you concede that if the removal of 'spam' posts by wtb's, yours would be removed too ending the silly 'spam war.' It appears you do not want that. Therefore, quit your bitchin.
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 06:21:45 The trouble is there isnt any spam by me :/
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:22:30 The idea I've made a contribution is predicated on your inaccurate and false equivalences. I also never complained or asked for anything to be done except that jerguls post makes him a bitch who doesn't moderate shit but wants to act self important. Again, read, you basic little bitch.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 06:23:39 Wtb, in fairness....there are posts that can be construed as spam by you. In fact by all of us. But it's the principle and the attempt to have immature pillz here that he is not without fault, where it seemingly appears he cannot acknowledge. Do not take offense.
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 06:24:33 Well, by spam, I mean large blocks of text to ruin the thread. Only Twitchy does that
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:25:11 "The trouble is there isnt any spam by me :/" That's kind of incredible of you to say given every post you make is worthless. You post more than everyone on the board combined (omitting either murder or myself). You do realize that right? Over 1500 posts in 19 weeks. And most are to yourself. About nothing. Every post you have made is essentially spam. You just decided to stop talking directly to yourself, and no direct 100% of your attention to me. Whereas, stated above, I am not not.
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 06:26:49 Those large blocks of irrelevant text are the same thing whoever it was that spammed Hot Rod did. Exact same method.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:26:49 "Wtb, in fairness....there are posts that can be construed as spam by you. In fact by all of us. But it's the principle and the attempt to have immature pillz here that he is not without fault, where it seemingly appears he cannot acknowledge. Do not take offense. " My faults aren't for you to judge, because you're using a multi. And, I will stand firm that in a comparison between us (and wtb) I am guilty of nothing.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 06:26:57 Pillz, your whole premise is the addressing wtb's post and how multis are interfering in your world of operations. No 'false equivalents' exist except in your own mind because you do not like what is being said.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:27:41 "Those large blocks of irrelevant text are the same thing whoever it was that spammed Hot Rod did. Exact same method." Unfortunately no. And unfortunately for you they happen only because you make them happen by running away like a Nazi from 3rd army.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:28:00 "Pillz, your whole premise is the addressing wtb's post and how multis are interfering in your world of operations. No 'false equivalents' exist except in your own mind because you do not like what is being said." Source faggot
williamthebastard Member	Thu May 22 06:28:38 I'd bet money that the exact same method points to the exact same perpetrator
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:29:54 Where did I say multies are interfering with anything? I said they add nothing and are the lowest (2nd lowest) form of 'trolling' I still haven't asked for them to be moderated.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 06:30:37 "My faults aren't for you to judge, because you're using a multi." And here we have it. You take issues with mutlis by own admission. Feels better to get that off your chest. Good. Now the next part... "And, I will stand firm that in a comparison between us (and wtb) I am guilty of nothing." Survey begs to differ, just by face value alone with threads and posts currently existing. Just because your standard of spam and harassment targeting a poster and you claim has been done to you, does not dismiss your contributions too.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 06:30:37 "My faults aren't for you to judge, because you're using a multi." And here we have it. You take issues with mutlis by own admission. Feels better to get that off your chest. Good. Now the next part... "And, I will stand firm that in a comparison between us (and wtb) I am guilty of nothing." Survey begs to differ, just by face value alone with threads and posts currently existing. Just because your standard of spam and harassment targeting a poster and you claim has been done to you, does not dismiss your contributions too.
murder Member	Thu May 22 06:30:40 It's long established that jergul doesn't like deleting posts or threads except in cases like doxxing or I suppose illegal activity and such. That's just the way it is. The spamming and the stalking annoys everyone. Lots of things should be deleted including your "WTB raped his mother" thread. But that's not how things work here, and you really aren't in a position to complain about it. -
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:31:35 Go back to bed ESL
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 06:31:40 "Source faggot" I rest my case.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:32:34 Nobody has been able to quote a single line where I said I wanted jergul to actively moderate anything. I called him out for his inconsistencies and bitch behaviour. So someone, quote something.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:33:21 You rest nothing. You're gonna keep posting because you can't stop because I won't stop. That's how this works. You are at my behest now.
murder Member	Thu May 22 06:33:53 "breaker of wtb" Or vice versa.
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:34:49 Lulz
Pillz breaker of wtb	Thu May 22 06:35:23 Again, murder can't support anything he says nor can he understand anything he reads =o
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 06:35:29 Oh you calling for a mod election isn't questioning jergul's lack of moderating? And wanting something to be done. My guy. Come on.
The Zero Identity Member	Thu May 22 06:36:03 Crybaby
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