Utopia Talk / Politics / Musk and Trump bromance over

williamthebastard Member	Tue Jun 03 14:06:09 Elon Musk on Tuesday lashed out at President Donald Trump’s agenda bill — which the president is pressuring GOP senators to support — calling it a “disgusting abomination.” “I’m sorry, but I just can’t stand it anymore. This massive, outrageous, pork-filled Congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination,” the tech billionaire posted on X. “Shame on those who voted for it: you know you did wrong. You know it.” He added in a subsequent post: “Congress is making America bankrupt.”
Paramount Member	Tue Jun 03 15:50:02 It sounds good to me.
murder Member	Tue Jun 03 17:43:30 I hope he doesn't think this will help Tesla sales.
Rugian Member	Tue Jun 03 19:42:01 Tumbleweed just bought three Cybertrucks
TheChildren Member	Wed Jun 04 10:54:38 his desperate is reekin yea tesla is done done
Rugian Member	Thu Jun 05 12:59:11 Well...theyre openly fighting now. Im surprised it lasted this long tbh.
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 05 13:10:34 So thats what it took to crash Tesla stock. Trump will win because nobody likes Elon. He could probably completely tank Elon through popular support and a couple of retracted govt contracts
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 05 13:35:59 Its interesting that the current world is organized such that the worth of our incomes isnt dependent on our work performance but on personal fights between two guys like Trump and Elon
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jun 05 13:43:56 fuckhead: " The easiest way to save money in our Budget, Billions and Billions of Dollars, is to terminate Elon’s Governmental Subsidies and Contracts. I was always surprised that Biden didn’t do it! "
Rugian Member	Thu Jun 05 13:54:17 More... Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Elon was “wearing thin,” I asked him to leave, I took away his EV Mandate that forced everyone to buy Electric Cars that nobody else wanted (that he knew for months I was going to do!), and he just went CRAZY!
Rugian Member	Thu Jun 05 13:56:35 Elon Musk @elonmusk Without me, Trump would have lost the election, Dems would control the House and the Republicans would be 51-49 in the Senate. Such ingratitude
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 05 13:57:48 Elon starts a poll asking if he should start a political party - a poll that will embarrass him bigly because every Trump cultist, i.e. 90% of the GOP, and every liberal will laugh at him
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jun 05 14:11:27 i think Elon will win out since Elon's argument is reigning in spending & balancing the budget while Trump is a fucking moron who doesn't know fuck all about the 'big beautiful bill' (or any bill ever) (but yes, Trump's brainwashed cultists are immovable... but i don't think that's 90% of the GOP... a significant part of the 90% aren't true cultists just people who 'don't see the tweet' & ostrich...... not that actual ostriches really do that hide head thing...)
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 05 14:15:08 I think "reigning in spending & balancing the budget" was always a bullshit talking point like a million other bullshit talking points such as due process or believing in the constitution, which they'll happily piss all over in a second when their cult leader decides to
Average Ameriacn Member	Thu Jun 05 14:16:52 Stand with Trump! We should not forget that Musk is an African immigrant, maybe he is an albino negro?
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 05 14:18:07 Heh, Ill bet any afrikaans waiting for amnesty from the genocide going on back home are going to suddenly be sorely disappointed
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jun 05 14:19:44 things escalating nicely: Elon: " Time to drop the really big bomb: Trump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day, DJT! " http://x.com/elonmusk/status/1930703865801810022
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 05 14:20:46 ooooh nice :D
Average Ameriacn Member	Thu Jun 05 14:24:39 The failing NYT tries to profit from this with a live ticker, scum! http://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/05/us/trump-elon-musk
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 05 15:13:11 The Epstein revelation probably took Melania about 10 seconds to work out she could add another 500m to her allowance
murder Member	Thu Jun 05 15:13:13 Countdown to Elon resigning as CEO of Tesla ...
murder Member	Thu Jun 05 15:14:11 "Trump is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public." I bet Elon thinks he's the only one who has figured that out.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jun 05 15:15:22 Elon: " In light of the President’s statement about cancellation of my government contracts, @SpaceX will begin decommissioning its Dragon spacecraft immediately " http://x.com/elonmusk/status/1930718684819112251
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 05 15:20:24 Trump has got to say that Elons lying about Epstein. What will Elon offer to back his statement up?
murder Member	Thu Jun 05 15:22:08 Trump to announce the new head of NASA: Jeff Bezos ;o)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Thu Jun 05 15:44:31 Elon: "The Trump tariffs will cause a recession in the second half of this year" & retweeted: "Trump should be impeached and JD Vance should replace him." & posted the old comments about Trump knowing Epstein 15 years, & claiming a terrific guy who likes 'em young (i doubt Elon has any inside info on that... Trump's too stupid & unconcerned w/ learning facts to have inside info on anything, but presumably will jump on the drug abuse allegations against Elon) both post tons of shit & have thin skins so it should keep this rolling fast til Elon is put in the El Salvador prison
murder Member	Thu Jun 05 15:45:45 Poor JD Vance. lol :o)
murder Member	Thu Jun 05 15:46:16 Vance may become the first VP ever fired from his elected office.
obaminated Member	Thu Jun 05 15:47:43 Im loving the debate. Its a battle of great minds battling it out and I have a front row seat.
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 05 15:49:44 ^ has to have an IQ below 90
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 05 15:53:29 This is not a debate, you shockingly stupid moron. This is two people slinging scandalous shit at each other trying to harm each others lives as much as possible. "Debate A formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward."
murder Member	Thu Jun 05 15:57:54 "This is not a debate, you shockingly stupid moron. This is two people slinging scandalous shit at each other trying to harm each others lives as much as possible." What scandalous shit? I haven't heard a single thing that wasn't already public knowledge. Nothing is scandalous anymore on that side of the isle. The only potential scandal would be Trump "discovering" that Elon is an illegal immigrant who falsified legal documents to gain citizenship. -
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 05 16:00:42 Ok, murder, this is a debate between two great minds, youre right. Lordy
murder Member	Thu Jun 05 16:03:35 No one but obaminated mentioned great minds or a debate. It's just monkeys flinging poo. -
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 05 16:03:44 Both great minds are presenting profound arguments and scientifically testing the validity of their well-considered theoretical arguments through socratic logic and reasoning.
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 05 16:04:40 anyway, back to the monkeys flinging poo.
TheChildren Member	Thu Jun 05 16:05:37 2 late. whole thing is reekin... les be real. he desperate only coz his sales have plumetted.
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 05 16:08:18 Once again, everyone who gets close to Trump gets destroyed. To a megalomanic narcissist like Trump, there can be no greater ego boost than ruining the worlds richest man
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 05 16:13:52 Insane that one of these two supid kids flinging shit at each other is comparing the deadly russia/ukraine war to two children fighting in the playground, though. I hope Elon has loads of ketamine at home so he can go on a total rampage. Will the POTUS get banned on Twitter a second time?
Rugian Member	Thu Jun 05 16:36:09 WTB Some of us just see the humor here. You dont need to take everything so seriously.
williamthebastard Member	Thu Jun 05 16:44:37 Rugian, these two chimps slinging shit at each other in a rage harms investments, jobs, savings, real people, people as real as you. Yes, other people really are as real as you.
obaminated Member	Thu Jun 05 16:56:53 I was also quoting a pretty famous line from the office about a pretty worthless debate.
murder Member	Thu Jun 05 17:08:21 I didn't watch The Office so that when right over my head. :oP
murder Member	Thu Jun 05 20:55:19 It appears like the girls are exhausted and done hair pulling. -
williamthebastard Member	Fri Jun 06 03:43:48 Trump seems a bit scared of Elon. Usually his Roy Cohn mindset is to ruin the lives of people that talk back to him, but he seems to be biting his tongue here
williamthebastard Member	Fri Jun 06 03:47:34 michael wolf says he's personally seen a dozen photos of Trump at Epsteins place with 3 topless girls sitting in his lap etc etc, so there seems to be some damning hard evidence out there. Not that Trump cultists would give a damn if Musk posted pics of a 10 year old Ivanka sucking him off, would take them about 1 microsecond to think of some unbelievable excuse to placate themselves.
murder Member	Fri Jun 06 04:12:14 "... so there seems to be some damning hard evidence out there." "Trust me bro" is not evidence.
TheChildren Member	Fri Jun 06 09:56:55 FFFAAAKKKKKKEEEE FIGHT ORCHESTRATED AT TOP LEVELS R DA IDIOTIC LIBTARD SUDDENLY PRO TESLA AGAIN
williamthebastard Member	Fri Jun 06 14:18:14 So Trump still hasnt denied Epstein's accusation, which is completely and utterly out of character for him. I suppose Trump was warned by someone that the plan was for Elon to post that, Trump to say "he's lying" which is what Elon is waiting for so he can go, "Oh yeah? How about this pic? And this pic? And this pic?"
williamthebastard Member	Fri Jun 06 14:18:34 *denied the Epstein accusation
obaminated Member	Fri Jun 06 14:45:14 There is nothing to deny. Of course trump is in the epstein files. Trump has consistently said he knew epstein and never liked him. Also musk is already backtracking, saying he never went after trump personally, just congress. I guess losing 30 billion in his networth brought him to his senses. As a wise homosexual negro once said, "you come at the king, you best not miss."
williamthebastard Member	Fri Jun 06 14:53:19 Lordy
williamthebastard Member	Fri Jun 06 14:55:36 Stopped reading after the lie "never liked"
obaminated Member	Fri Jun 06 15:02:02 Well, you have a severe mental illness, so your opinions will always be ignored.
Cherub Cow Member	Fri Jun 06 16:04:47 (tumblefag and williamthecoward meltdown thread... again)
williamthebastard Member	Fri Jun 06 16:55:56 Trying to debate with someone who openly tells lies is as utterly ridiculous as playing cards with someone who openly cheats. Not a chance in hell
TheChildren Member	Fri Jun 06 17:16:18 http://www...d_trump_responds_to_elon_musk/ HOLY SHIT!!!! HGHAHAHAH
TheChildren Member	Fri Jun 06 17:21:43 hahaha neva mind, it is fake i knew it. just like da fake fight, fake
murder Member	Fri Jun 06 17:23:37 "Trump has consistently said he knew epstein and never liked him." You can't be serious. -
TheChildren Member	Sat Jun 07 08:42:59 uuuuh ooooh woops like da famous line in batman, u might have da wrong animal there seeer http://www...iately_nationalize_spacex_and/
williamthebastard Member	Sat Jun 07 11:27:32 Trump called Musk “a big-time drug addict” in a phone call http://www...elon-musk-fight-behind-scenes/
obaminated Member	Sat Jun 07 11:35:53 I wonder if the joint he smoked on the rogan podcast was the gateway to his drug use.
williamthebastard Member	Sat Jun 07 11:49:39 Gateway drug is an outdated concept, but scientifically it originally referred to nicotine and was seized upon and unscientifically reframed and linked to marijuana due to "family-oriented" garbage politics
williamthebastard Member	Sat Jun 07 12:00:03 Setting The Record Straight On The Phrase 'Gateway Drug' The idea that marijuana is dangerous because it's a stepping stone to harder drugs, like cocaine or heroin, is pretty old. And it's always been controversial. Dr. Denise Kandel is a professor of sociomedical sciences at Columbia University, and she's been studying drug use and addiction for decades. In the early 1970s, the National Institute on Drug Abuse gave Dr. Kandel money to study marijuana as a possible gateway drug. DENISE KANDEL: And in those days, you know, you were funded to do marijuana and you were not even supposed to ask about anything else. RATH: But Dr. Kandel thought it made sense to look at other factors aside from marijuana. Even though she wasn't supposed to, Dr. Kandel went ahead and asked about tobacco and alcohol use. Her instinct paid off. KANDEL: When I did the analysis, I found that there was a certain sequence that young people seem to be following when they got involved in drugs. They did not start with marijuana, but they started with drugs that are legal for adults in the society, such as beer and wine and cigarettes, other forms of alcohol. RATH: And tobacco - nicotine - appeared to be the most effective gateway of all. To reinforce her behavioral findings, Dr. Kandel wanted to conduct a biological study. And since you can't really confine kids to a lab and dose them with alcohol or tobacco - or heroin for that matter - science turns to rodents. KANDEL: When you have an animal model, you can change the order of presentation. You can present an animal with, you know, drug A, see how he reacts to drug B and do the reverse - B versus A. RATH: Now, Dr. Kandel is not a neurologist. But conveniently, she happens to be married to one and not just any - Nobel Prize-winner Dr. Eric Kandel. Nearly 40 years after Dr. Denise Kandel's paper on the gateway hypothesis was published, she and her husband published a molecular basis for nicotine as a gateway drug in the New England Journal of Medicine. KANDEL: What we found is that when an animal was primed by nicotine and then was exposed to cocaine, the effect of cocaine was amplified many times. RATH: Dr. Kandel wants people to pay attention to their results. She says that given how well nicotine primes the brain for addiction, she's concerned about reports showing e-cigarette use among young people on the rise. KANDEL: Because as we said, you know, nicotine is nicotine, whether it comes from an e-cigarette or from a combustible cigarette, you end up with nicotine in the brain. RATH: Dr. Denise Kandel. Her original findings on nicotine as a gateway drug came out 40 years ago this year. Her follow-up with her husband was published last fall.
williamthebastard Member	Sat Jun 07 12:39:23 "The Real Gateway Drug Alcohol was the first substance used for over 65 to 68 percent of participants. Further, over 23 percent of respondents tried tobacco first, while more than 10 percent used marijuana." http://americanaddictioncenters.org/the-real-gateway-drug But while alcohol is as WASP as apple pie, marijuana in the '70s was this foreign thing that negros and hippies use, so WASP culture wanted to prove that marijuana was the real danger. Some people are still stuck in that 70's WASP myth
Paramount Member	Sat Jun 07 13:49:49 Musk and Trump needs to fight this out for a while before someone pulls them apart. Then maybe Putin can act as a mediator.
Average Ameriacn Member	Sat Jun 07 15:23:24 The fight is over, Trump won, Musk will now back down and will live for the rest of his life as a car salesman: Trump says Elon Musk will face ‘serious consequences’ if he backs Democratic candidates
murder Member	Sat Jun 07 20:14:40 Or to put it like Trump would ... He could tell Elon to get on his knees and he'd do it. He'd do anything.
Average Ameriacn Member	Sun Jun 08 00:32:22 Musk has deleted his bad tweets about Trump. Total victory for Trump, he keeps on winning. MAGA
TheChildren Member	Sun Jun 08 01:49:53 once he saw some of da threats of nationalization and shit... he knew 2 late now. http://www...ty_staff_warned_starlink_is_a/ uuuuuhhhh oooooohhhh uuuuuuuhhh ooooooohhhh
murder Member	Sun Jun 08 03:40:38 Elon better start writing a bunch of really big checks and praising Trump and his "big beautiful bill" like crazy. lol :o)
williamthebastard Member	Sun Jun 08 05:26:52 Its great that Trumps Rasputin, Stephen Miller, has a big grudge against Musk. He's probably thinking up all the ways to destroy Musk and whispering them in Trumps ear.
Cherub Cow Member	Sun Jun 08 07:25:13 This thread is hilarious because the leftists here are still so ignorant and low-IQ that they really think that Musk had some kind of unanimous support from the Right. Meanwhile, I have for *years* been pointing out that Musk comes with a lot of suspicious baggage. Here's me in 2022! ------------ Twitter's infiltration by Chinese and Indian agents (likely including its former board) is part of a BRICS+ Group coalition to use ESG/DIE propaganda to collapse the West. Given @elonmusk 's South African position, one would hope he truly opposes ESG. http://x.com/CherubCow/status/1602661399238410240 ------------ My thread on totalitarians included lists of Musk's psychopathic positions, including • his belief in A.I. ascendancy as a replacement for humanity, • his continued use of Global South resource siphoning • his idiotic belief in solar (via Global South resources) • his idiotic position on Indian workers and his pro-globalism • his connections to the Thiel/Yarvin network • his support for slop and sycophant accounts such as Ian Miles Cheong • his lack of vision for Twitter's direction • his foreign conqueror strategy of pushing internationalism into the U.S. to enable his corporate projects (why not have SpaceX in India if Indians are so valuable!) Musk is likely just a puppet, he's kind of a retard, and his few redeeming qualities are accidental and reactive (such as his opposition to "woke"). His meltdown and mudslinging is transparently desperate and driven by petty revenge. Do you leftist retards seriously think that Trump gave Musk access to Epstein files, that Musk was allowed particular access to things that implicated Trump, and that Musk kept that a secret only until after he was fired? These are literal retard beliefs. You faggots are just transparently being bitchboy instigators at a bar fight, hoping that if you sling some bullshit that you'll get two groups that you hate to fight each other for your entertainment. You faggots hate both Trump and Musk, so you're not fooling anyone. Get fucked and look for your next psy-op slop, you conformist trash.
Average Ameriacn Member	Wed Jun 11 13:45:12 On his knees!!! http://www...geting-trump-they-went-too-far Musk says he regrets social media posts targeting Trump: 'They went too far'
murder Member	Wed Jun 11 13:52:09 So is he saying that he was lying? Or is he saying that it was wrong to tell the truth? Somehow the wealthiest person in the US AND our biggest welfare queen. -
Rugian Member	Wed Jun 11 14:08:51 Elon is the best poster boy for DARE that we've had in years. Dont tweet while high on ketamine kiddos.
Rugian Member	Wed Jun 11 14:13:07 "When keeping it real goes wrong"
murder Member	Wed Jun 11 20:08:29 Someone should point Elon back to his old "I win wars" tweet.
murder Member	Wed Jun 11 20:10:48 "When keeping it real goes wrong" 100% -
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