Utopia Talk / Politics / Trump vote fraud

murder rank	Thu Jan 01 21:57:50 Kennedy Center changed board rules before adopting Trump’s name New bylaws state that only trustees appointed by the president are allowed to vote, shutting out Democrats from the decision The Kennedy Center changed its bylaws so that only trustees appointed by President Trump could vote on the decision to add his name to the institution, according to a report. After Trump took over the performing-arts centre in February, he began dismissing trustees appointed by his predecessors while adding loyalists. In May, the centre’s rules were revised to stipulate that board members designated by Congress — known as ex officio members — could not vote or count towards a quorum, The Washington Post reported. Legal experts said the measure may be a violation of the centre’s charter. Read the rest here: https://ww...me-board-rules-trump-ll5xj0ch7
murder rank	Thu Jan 01 22:01:01 "It was a unanimous vote!" He's such a cartoon villain. -
murder rank	Thu Jan 01 22:02:15 "Democratic voter fraud!" Every single accusation is a confession. -
Pillz rank	Thu Jan 01 22:13:00 What a useless whataboutism
Rugian rank	Thu Jan 01 22:58:32 Whataboutism or not, the fact remains that Trump would be like the very last person I would trust to run a clean and honest election.
tumbleweed rank	Fri Jan 02 00:41:27 they put the letters up same day so clearly already had ordered them presumably wanting to rush it through as knew it was against the law... & keeping it up despite now made even more clearly against the law... (plus the lying about unanimous, & that other move to change rules mentioned in OP) so disgusting & disgraceful continuously
Habebe rank	Fri Jan 02 01:22:31 So what your saying is there is a 90% chance next democrat potus we have and it's once again the Kennedy center.... Rugian, When did you become anti Trump? Why? I admit I'm disappointed on his war stance... Promises not kept.
Pillz rank	Fri Jan 02 01:57:01 Watching Rugian drink himself to death during AOC's 2028- regime is gonna be brutal
Rugian rank	Fri Jan 02 02:17:28 Habebe I barely had any tolerance for Trump's bullshit by the end of his first term...and it's clear that he hasn't learned anything since then. Fundamentally, I value quiet competence, not showy idiocy. -His general inability to shut the fuck up and not say dumb shit constantly -His blatant corruption -His weaponizing of the Justice Department to target his political enemies -His obsession with vanity projects (the ballroom, thre arch, the Kennedy Center, and now DC's golf courses) -His hyper-partisan moves like pushing mid-Census gerrymandering, fucking over the residents of states that didn't vote for him, saying shit like "I hate my enemy," etc. -His inability to move on from 2020 and his continued insistence that he won that election -Making Congress virtually irrelevant by (illegally) bypassing them, and punishing any Congressmen/women that dare disagree with him by immediately having them primaried -His weak need to be constantly praised/never countered -The overall chaoatic nature of his presidency -Probably a dozen other reasons Do I value the fact that he's not a Democrat? Sure. But I would rather have almoat any other Republican rather than him. And he's going to ultimately going to make the voters want to return the Dems to power, which is going to suck. He makes the average person sick of him because he constantly needs to be the center of attention, and when the spotlight is on him he consistently proves that he's an asshole.
Habebe rank	Fri Jan 02 03:06:38 That's fair. I mean, I don't think he's all that bad. Definitely better than Harris/Walz. Out of that list I'd say the anti congress part seems the worst...however Im.conflicted as congress seems useless. Like Caesar>The Senate.
Pillz rank	Fri Jan 02 03:52:38 Trump is not Caesar. We institutionally and culturally aborted the possibility for a Caesar because 'waaah Hitler'. Trump is Mark Antony. All the populist support and bluster, none of the ability. It is safe to allow, because it can't succeed, and you can identify and eliminate his supporters as needed because they've all self identified. In this analogy, there is no Octavian. Octavian is also too competent and dangerous. Octavians are subsumed by the Senate and weaponized.
Pillz rank	Fri Jan 02 03:59:34 America has about one generation left to find and rally behind a 'Caesar' or 'Octavian' figure. Its entirely possible Trump fulfills the role of Caesar in death, and Baron rises to the forefront an Augustus. But this seems dubious right now. Much more likely to see open proscription of opponents post Trump by leftists than we are to see substantive change for the better from Trumps Presidency. Fingers crossed for a 3rd term, though. Would help immensely. Also, I don't rule out a 2028 Republican victory if the dems do run AOC or a Muslim male. Just gonna need to have voting sites supervised by Homeland security and ballots secured so they can't steal another election the way they did for Biden in Georgia.
Rugian rank	Fri Jan 02 04:13:26 Pillz / Habebe Hoping for a Caesar / Augustus to come around with some grand settlement to reorganize the United States is, respectfully, just so short-sighted. That way leads only to autocratic despotism. Augustus quickly leads to Caligula and Nero, the First Citizens leads to Dominus et Deus, the Principate to the Dominate. And ultimately, the proud citizens of the Republic are gradually reduced to the feudal serfs of the Middle Ages, bonded in servitude to a coterie of lesser lords and barbarian kings. That way leads only to misery. Let us not give up on republicanism and representative democracy so easily.
Pillz rank	Fri Jan 02 04:47:15 This is just about the dumbest, most reductivist, ignorant take you could have presented on the subject. You can do better, but you also know that if you do better, the conclusion that you reach is going to be that autocratic despotism is the superior choice at this current juncture of your civilization. I mean, you're facing the complete and total collapse of your nation and world order and looking at an irreparably corrupt and poison Senate and saying, yeah, it's okay. I can fix her. Meanwhile, if we return back to your post, the autocratic despots lasted another 1,400 years and just 3 centuries after it finally collapsed, your pathetic short-lived, ignorant, Protestant peasant nation took inspiration from what they preserved. And predictably, on a similar time scale, it only took about 300 more years for your pathetic, peasant Protestant nation to run into the same inevitable failures of the original republic. Democracy is bad. Republics are bad. They are failed historical experiments. They have not, and they will never succeed. You cannot fix her, Rugian.
tumbleweed rank	Fri Jan 02 06:05:04 "So what your saying is there is a 90% chance next democrat potus we have and it's once again the Kennedy center.... " if your argument is Dems (or a real president) can just undo his shit, that's not a valid argument for him just breaking the law the law written by congress set the name, he shouldn't just keep being allowed to be lawless as the next person can fix it (or constantly having to take him to court, where he loses, appeals, loses, appeals, loses when it was crystal clear from the start he was wrong) PLUS, if/when a Dem or real president takes office, they'll have to fix names & flush his ridiculous FBI director & so many other positions/fixes, where the cult & Faux will then pretend it's -that- person being partisan/political, & keep the division & hatred rolling
Pillz rank	Fri Jan 02 06:14:00 Leftist talking about the law roflmao Go away karen
tumbleweed rank	Fri Jan 02 06:33:05 you being the guy who thought the "probable" motive of the Brown mass shooter was targeting the one particular woman.... with sole 'evidence' being she turned out to be in a Republicans club... your mind is warped, your opinions don't matter
Pillz rank	Fri Jan 02 06:47:28 You are functionally retarded karen
tumbleweed rank	Fri Jan 02 07:17:18 what clearly insane belief have i expressed that turned out to be wrong (& lets stick to things i -actually- said... oddly you, obaminated & CC all have had to resort to making up examples of things i never said) (meanwhile, my examples of you three actually happened... like CC claiming it's media brainwashing if you think Trump is a huge fucking liar)
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