Utopia Talk / Politics / Greenland cont.

Seb rank	Mon Jan 12 10:08:34 And for those Americans (and American wannabe Canadians) who think this unthinkable; here's an article by Chatham House advocating cutting US logistics (refusal to allow ships to refuel etc.) if the threats continue. Let alone what happens if you actually invade. https://ww...ean-countries-are-not-helpless
Pillz rank	Mon Jan 12 10:26:46 Delulu
Habebe rank	Mon Jan 12 18:15:27 The US had better leverage than full on invasion.....like pulling our troops. Now what is it that we really want? Strategic resources. IDK why we can't come to some reasonable agreement. I am reminded of of the words of Chappelle http://youtu.be/ACx8dcV7CPg?si=GVr3gSMC6TU6SGpe
murder rank	Mon Jan 12 20:20:27 "IDK why we can't come to some reasonable agreement." We already have a reasonable agreement. What we don't have is a reasonable president. -
Seb rank	Mon Jan 12 21:20:24 Habebe: The only thing stopping US mining companies bidding to extract those minerals is that they are uneconomical to recover. Pulling US troops isn't likely to be a big lever. The only troops in Europe are there for the benefit of the US, not Europe.
Paramount rank	Mon Jan 12 22:10:14 lol NATO chief on Greenland: "This is not a crisis" NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte is now taking the matter to task and when asked if this is a crisis within the alliance, he says: "No, not at all, we are going in the right direction." https://ww...m-gronland-detta-ar-ingen-kris Yup. Everything is going according to plan.
murder rank	Mon Jan 12 22:17:57 He has to pretend that everything is fine. Without NATO he can't be NATO Secretary General. -
Paramount rank	Mon Jan 12 23:17:01 A nato country has threatened to conquer another nato country, and the nato clown rutte says that nato is going in the right direction. :o)
Paramount rank	Mon Jan 12 23:31:56 When Greenland has been transitioned to the USA, what should Trump rename the island to? 1. Trumpland 2. Daddyland (in reference to Rutte calling Trump daddy) 3. Whiteland 4. New Epstein Island ?
Habebe rank	Mon Jan 12 23:58:01 So what's the reason for wanting Greenland? We already have the ability to use it for defense purposes.
murder rank	Tue Jan 13 00:56:39 It has nothing to do with defense. It has everything to do with empire. -
Seb rank	Tue Jan 13 07:45:34 Habebe: You elected an old, insane, narcissistic crook who behaves like a mob boss. Greenland looks very big on the map and he thinks it will make him look good if he can paint it in stars and stripes. You are looking for logic where the isn't any to be had.
murder rank	Tue Jan 13 14:13:34 "You elected an old, insane, narcissistic crook who behaves like a mob boss." Exactly like a mob boss. He's supposedly offering Venezuela "security guarantees" ... I assume from us. Just like the mob does. -
Rugian rank	Tue Jan 13 15:28:35 So apparently the entire administration is now on board with this crusade. ---- Burgum: Europeans should be ‘cheering’ for US to annex Greenland by Ryan Mancini - 01/09/26 3:09 PM ET Interior Secretary Doug Burgum on Thursday said Europeans should be “cheering” for President Trump’s plan for the U.S. to acquire Greenland from Denmark. “Greenland is critical to the national security of the United States. It’s critical to European security,” Burgum told “Rob Schmitt Tonight” on Newsmax. “Europeans should be cheering that the U.S. wants to get involved there and provide that kind of protection, and of course, again, in Interior, we manage all of our territories around the world, our affiliated states.” “We manage land from Guam to the U.S. Virgin Islands, over 14 time zones,” he continued. “We have all of the ability to take on that responsibility, and again, it would be a win for all democracies in the world if the U.S. was exerting more authority there.” The former North Dakota governor argued that Greenland would serve a similar role as Alaska does with Russia in proximity “and all of their adventurism around the Arctic.” Burgum said the island “is the opposite end of the bookend.” “This is critical,” he added. Host Rob Schmitt asked if the U.S. could take Greenland and if it could happen soon. “I think it’s great,” Burgum replied. “We’re working for the greatest dealmaker that’s ever been president. Anything is possible with this president.” The Interior chief added, “And again, he is A+ on everything he’s executing on strategy abroad that helps bring prosperity at home.” Burgum compared Greenland to Alaska again, saying that the U.S. bought its 49th state “for $15 million and that turned out to be a great bargain. Buying Greenland for $5 billion could be a great deal too.” https://th...s-trump-greenland-acquisition/
Seb rank	Tue Jan 13 16:57:18 Americans are stupid. European security means self determination, not being annexed by a hostile authoritarian state.
Seb rank	Tue Jan 13 16:59:10 Further, the Arctic states closely monitor Russian and Chinese activity and that's not where they are active. Finally, US control off Greenland could be used to cut Europe off from trade with China in future. Allowing the US to control the territory is a direct threat to European security.
Forwyn rank	Tue Jan 13 17:06:04 "authoritarian state." Haha. Go arrest some more people for insulting Muslims on Facebook Seb
Seb rank	Tue Jan 13 19:57:51 Go shoot some suburban moms in the face for calling your masked, unidentified secret policemen fat.
murder rank	Tue Jan 13 22:02:34 Seb: 1 Forwyn: 0
Forwyn rank	Tue Jan 13 22:48:46 Seb: Still lying about basic facts of the case, just like he calls every arrest in the UK a case of harassment and threats lol "she was just maneuvering around trying to leave!" Fucking imbecile
obaminated rank	Wed Jan 14 02:47:45 Forwyn, I thought she was innocently dropping off a friend? 5 billion for Greenland would be great. Why does Denmark want it anyways? And do the people want to be Danish? Or Americans? They seem to overwhelmingly want independence from Denmark while maintaining close ties to the US. So seriously, they seem to want to be a territory like Guam. Under our protection but relatively independent and not having to pay fed income tax. Rofl. This might happen and the people most upset wont be greenlanders.
murder rank	Wed Jan 14 03:07:39 It's odd that people who support a rapist would support imposing your will on others at the point of a gun. -
Seb rank	Wed Jan 14 09:01:19 Their govt have been very clear. They don't want to be a territory or state of the US.
Pillz rank	Wed Jan 14 09:47:02 How come the governments of syria and Libya and iran don't get that same consideration on matters of sovereignty????
Rugian rank	Wed Jan 14 13:41:16 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump The United States needs Greenland for the purpose of National Security. It is vital for the Golden Dome that we are building. NATO should be leading the way for us to get it. IF WE DON’T, RUSSIA OR CHINA WILL, AND THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! Militarily, without the vast power of the United States, much of which I built during my first term, and am now bringing to a new and even higher level, NATO would not be an effective force or deterrent - Not even close! They know that, and so do I. NATO becomes far more formidable and effective with Greenland in the hands of the UNITED STATES. Anything less than that is unacceptable. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DJT
williamthebastard rank	Wed Jan 14 13:47:40 Denmark sending troops to greenland and is expecting other countries to send troops. If the US of Mordor kills a couple of danish, french and german troops, things will get very serious. Remember, American fascists are the enemy. http://www...-forstaerkninger-til-groenland
Pillz rank	Wed Jan 14 13:49:28 Lmao
williamthebastard rank	Wed Jan 14 14:07:33 Remember, if you ever get talking to an american Ritaline Bou ODDams, say, in a bar in Europe, its recommended you wait for them outside in a dark alley and attack and harm them or worse, since they are planning to utterly unprovoked attack and kill Europeans and steal European land and are a far more present threat to Western Europe than the Kremlin ever was.
williamthebastard rank	Wed Jan 14 14:10:41 The risk of a Ritaline Boy ODDams, of course, of ever travelling outside the US of Mordor is of course tiny, since 99.99% of them are primitive trailer trash tweakers who will never travel further than the closest McDonalds, the other 00.01% being their owners, but if you ever get the chance, seize it.
williamthebastard rank	Wed Jan 14 14:15:56 Part of me hopes they do attack Western Europe and thereby provide the final catalyst to utterly isolate them and cut off all ties, end all trade, and most importantly end their social media and media presence here which has been poisoning the weakest minds in europe for almost 2 decades now, resulting in neo-Nazi groups expanding their presence here, Brexit etc. Ending their media in Europe would be hugely significant in healing the wounds of their mental illness they have infected us with.
williamthebastard rank	Wed Jan 14 14:20:21 All neo-Nazi parties in Europe are massive Maga fans, and since Maga fans will be considered traitors in the event Maga attacks a European country, we'll be rounding up and imprisoning all the neo-nazis when we round up Maga traitors. We'd be emptying Europe of neo-Nazism aka Maga, which would be fantastic.
Seb rank	Wed Jan 14 14:27:39 Pillz: "syria and Libya and iran" Neither govts of Greenland nor Denmark are engaging in crimes against humanity; and invention in Syria, Libya or Iran involved proposals of annexation. Why even bother with these idiotic comparisons.
williamthebastard rank	Wed Jan 14 14:30:07 France has already decided to create a French presence there by setting up a French consulate on Greenland next month. Since France has increasingly taken on the role of regional super power in Europe, I wouldnt be surprised, in fact I'd almost expect, France to place a military presence on Greenland in the event that the American nazis continue to show aggression. Once one leading country does that, others will of course feel obligated to follow suit. http://www...and-amid-donald-trump-threats/
Seb rank	Wed Jan 14 14:50:49 Germany has already announced a multilateral EU presence: Arctic Sentry. To protect against "Russia and China" (who incidentally, have no presence or interest)
williamthebastard rank	Wed Jan 14 15:02:43 On the one hand, unprovoked US aggression will screw Putin's strategy of dividing Europe up with far-right media and social media, as it has been doing for the 15 years, but on the other, it'll give Putin and Trump the chance to finally fully consolidate on a murderous business and ego venture, so Putin's probably ok with that. China on the other hand seems not in the slightest amused with the USA's aggression toward Greenland. So, China, Canada et al on our side, vs. The Kremlin and the White Ballroom
williamthebastard rank	Wed Jan 14 15:05:12 China would much rather see Europe in charge of that region, since you can reason with Europeans without them acting like escaped criminal mental patients, in contrast to Usians.
Pillz rank	Wed Jan 14 15:09:21 Lol @ seb whine about crimes against humanity
williamthebastard rank	Wed Jan 14 16:24:31 Naturally, apart from starting a world war with Europe and its allies being the catalyst for us to practice our patriotic duty and duty to join good against evil and start killing Usian rightwing extremists, it'll very likely also be a catalyst for the USA to crumble into civil war. About half of the biggest shithole country the world has ever seen will think it utterly unthinkable to go to war with Europe over Greenland, and this includes plenty of generals etc. They are already teetering on the edge over their internal disputes between one normal half and one fully fascist half. So, everyone will likely be killing Usian rightwingers at that point, thankfully. Once we have once again cleansed the world of this far right disease, we should realize that they will probably crop up again cyclically in another half century and should therefore ban and equate rightwing extremism with crimes against humanity under penalty of harsh punishment, since it is nothing but an empty war ideology of hate, death and destruction.
williamthebastard rank	Wed Jan 14 16:26:43 The ideology of people that deep down want to destroy and kill themselves, suicide by world war, like Pillz.
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