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Habebe
rank Fri Jan 16 05:00:02
It's crazy to think if you asked someone from 1900 what they thought of today.

For relatively little money we have smart phones, wireless.ear buds, TVs are cheap AF now, power tools etc.

But if you told them what we pay for housing, which hasn't really advanced that much in practical terms, sure the stuff in them has gotten nicer, central thermostats, but that's not the costly part of a home, they would probably think we are bonkers.

It's a great business, it's a great investment, but it's ridiculously priced.

I seen an actual shed in someone's backyard in LA going for like $2k a month IIRC.

Im better then you
rank Fri Jan 16 05:28:43
I'm glad most see Trump's 50 year mortgage as a "Fuck you peasant" as it was meant to be.

Sam Adams
rank Fri Jan 16 05:36:26
You can't make more land. Houses are always going to be expensive on a crowded planet.

Plus they are much nicer. Sure there are some 100 year old homes(Mainly rich peoples) that are as nice structurally as modern homes but the vast majority were shit boxes that have long since been replaced.

Sam Adams
rank Fri Jan 16 05:41:42
And even the nicer old structures didn't contain nearly as nice stuff inside. Not many rich people in 1900 had even half of what my house has in 2026. No AC. shitty lighting. Small windows. No jacuzzis anywhere.

And oh my God look at a 1900s kitchen. Savages!!

earthpig
rank Fri Jan 16 06:13:54
We haven't been building enough housing to keep up with demand since the 1970s. There are some local markets that have, primarily in conservative areas it turns out. But, overall, vastly insufficient.

Idiots, usually progressives, but in this case Trump has joined them as well, keep thinking the solution to insufficient supply is to subsidize demand.

Trump's proposed demand subsidies:
[x] 50 year mortgage proposal
[x] The obsession with lowering rates

And two tax cuts that are specifically good for his real estate investor colleagues:
[x] cap SALT deduction for primary residences, make it unlimited for investment properties
[x] cap mortgage interest deduction for primary residences, make it unlimited for investment properties

There is one, EXACTLY ONE, thing that can make housing affordable again.

BUILD
MORE
HOUSING

That's it. Everything else is a distraction.

Forwyn
rank Fri Jan 16 06:35:19
Deport 10 million people :)

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Habebe rank	Fri Jan 16 05:00:02 It's crazy to think if you asked someone from 1900 what they thought of today. For relatively little money we have smart phones, wireless.ear buds, TVs are cheap AF now, power tools etc. But if you told them what we pay for housing, which hasn't really advanced that much in practical terms, sure the stuff in them has gotten nicer, central thermostats, but that's not the costly part of a home, they would probably think we are bonkers. It's a great business, it's a great investment, but it's ridiculously priced. I seen an actual shed in someone's backyard in LA going for like $2k a month IIRC.
Im better then you rank	Fri Jan 16 05:28:43 I'm glad most see Trump's 50 year mortgage as a "Fuck you peasant" as it was meant to be.
Sam Adams rank	Fri Jan 16 05:36:26 You can't make more land. Houses are always going to be expensive on a crowded planet. Plus they are much nicer. Sure there are some 100 year old homes(Mainly rich peoples) that are as nice structurally as modern homes but the vast majority were shit boxes that have long since been replaced.
Sam Adams rank	Fri Jan 16 05:41:42 And even the nicer old structures didn't contain nearly as nice stuff inside. Not many rich people in 1900 had even half of what my house has in 2026. No AC. shitty lighting. Small windows. No jacuzzis anywhere. And oh my God look at a 1900s kitchen. Savages!!
earthpig rank	Fri Jan 16 06:13:54 We haven't been building enough housing to keep up with demand since the 1970s. There are some local markets that have, primarily in conservative areas it turns out. But, overall, vastly insufficient. Idiots, usually progressives, but in this case Trump has joined them as well, keep thinking the solution to insufficient supply is to subsidize demand. Trump's proposed demand subsidies: [x] 50 year mortgage proposal [x] The obsession with lowering rates And two tax cuts that are specifically good for his real estate investor colleagues: [x] cap SALT deduction for primary residences, make it unlimited for investment properties [x] cap mortgage interest deduction for primary residences, make it unlimited for investment properties There is one, EXACTLY ONE, thing that can make housing affordable again. BUILD MORE HOUSING That's it. Everything else is a distraction.
Forwyn rank	Fri Jan 16 06:35:19 Deport 10 million people :)
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