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murder
rank Sun Jan 18 18:31:09
US 'wants countries to pay $1bn to stay on Gaza peace board'

Israel says they have not coordinated with the US over the structure of the Trump-backed Board of Peace.

Donald Trump wants countries to pay $1bn to be permanent members of the US-backed Board of Peace, according to reports.

The Board of Peace will form a key part of the Gaza peace process but a statement from the office of Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said the US did not coordinate its creation with them.

Israel's foreign minister Gideon Saar would raise the issue with US Secretary of State Marco ‍Rubio, the statement added.

The Board of Peace, unveiled by the White House ‌on Friday, will be chaired by Donald Trump and tasked with supervising Gaza's transitional administration.

It would include 11 members who will be part of an executive board, plus additional members.

The US administration has reached out to around 60 countries to contribute $1 billion (£747 million) if they want their membership on the board to extend beyond three years, according to a draft charter seen by Reuters and first reported by Bloomberg News.

The executive board includes Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan, despite Israel's opposition to any Turkish role in Gaza.

Read the rest here: https://ne...y-on-gaza-peace-board-13495801

Sam Adams
rank Sun Jan 18 19:26:31
Why are we paying for that shit hole at all? Let Israel exterminate them and be done with it.

Rugian
rank Sun Jan 18 19:59:59
"Why are we paying for that shit hole at all?"

Short answer...Trump and Kushner have major business dealings with the Qataris, who have been leveraging that influence to use POTUS to put a leash on Israel.

Before Trump, a bunch of pro-terrorist propaganda had transformed the left into a bunch of anti-Semitic Israel haters who pressured the Biden administration to turn on the country after 10/7.

Basically we're living in the stupidest timeline possible.

murder
rank Sun Jan 18 20:06:46

"Basically we're living in the stupidest timeline possible."

Not yet, but we're getting there.

Also, Trump will eventually turn on Israel. 100% guaranteed.

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Pillz
rank Sun Jan 18 22:30:09
The only valid position the contemporary left holds is anti-Zionism, Rugian

tumbleweed
rank Tue Jan 20 10:08:46
Q: Have you invited Putin to be a member of the Board of Peace?

TRUMP: Yeah. He's been invited

Q: Any response to Macron saying he won't join?

TRUMP: Did he say that? Nobody wants him because he's going to be out of office very soon, so that's alright. What I'll do if they feel hostile, I'll put a 200% tariff on his wines & champagnes & he'll join, but he doesn't have to join, if he said that, you're probably giving it to me a little bit differently, but if he actually did say that...

video of ^
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mctfwshr7n2q

no indication of joking (as always, cause he isn't)

forced joining to his board (of dictators)... nothing weird or completely insane...

Paramount
rank Tue Jan 20 13:47:36
Trump is right, though. Macron will be out of office soon.

Rugian
rank Tue Jan 20 14:00:35
So he's using tariffs to threaten any country that refuses to pay his bribe money? (I assume he's just pocketing the $1B, or at least a chunk of it)

Congress needs to wake the fuck up and put SOME sort of guardrails on this guy already.

Paramount
rank Tue Jan 20 14:03:36
Rugian has become a communist and I would not be surprised if he has joined Antifa by the end of February :o)

murder
rank Tue Jan 20 19:01:50

"Congress needs to wake the fuck up and put SOME sort of guardrails on this guy already."

The only way Congress will do anything to stop their boy king is if a few Republicans cross the aisle and take power away from Johnson and Thune. And even then any action would get derailed by Republican obstruction.

The GOP chose its path.

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Rugian
rank Fri Jan 23 06:13:16
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Dear Prime Minister Carney:

Please let this Letter serve to represent that the Board of Peace is withdrawing its invitation to you regarding Canada’s joining, what will be, the most prestigious Board of Leaders ever assembled, at any time.

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

DONALD J. TRUMP
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

tumbleweed
rank Fri Jan 23 06:31:28
Carney criticized him, nobody can do that

also, obviously nobody can ask why Trump is the automatic chairman of a board supposedly about rebuilding Gaza

& nobody can ask why he retains the seat even after/if leaving the 'presidency' (so clearly it isn't about the USA being head)

& of course he has unique veto power over everyone else, as why not

Pillz
rank Fri Jan 23 06:34:25
I'm convinced that Trump got Carney elected on purpose just so he could spend the next several years just trolling the fuck out of him.

tumbleweed
rank Fri Jan 23 07:07:52
if you rearrange 'Board of Peace' it spells 'Legion of Doom'... (if you also change a lot of letters)

Pillz
rank Fri Jan 23 08:15:02
tw trying to explain what it's like for him to make up everything

tumbleweed
rank Fri Jan 23 09:09:34
actually i was thinking it's a lot like what Trump defenders have to do w/ everything he says to pretend it's sane & normal

Seb
rank Fri Jan 23 10:26:31
You guys misheard him. It's called the "Bored of peace"

patom
rank Fri Jan 23 12:42:37
God, I'm glad I'll be checking out of this life sooner than the rest of you.

jergul
rank Fri Jan 23 12:51:18
Patom
That I doubt. Rural type lifestyle in a healthy state. You are good for another 8 years just based on averages. Not everyone here will make it that long. Again based on statistics.

Rugian
rank Fri Jan 23 15:44:47
Not to mention, when Trump does finally start World War III, patom you will be in a location far removed from the likely nuclear targets.

You will be alive long after the rest of us are reduced to irradiated ash :)

tumbleweed
rank Fri Jan 23 19:40:57
the charter is out, searching on 'chairman', here are some of his powers (spoiler: complete control of everything):

"
Membership in the Board of Peace is limited to States invited to participate by the Chairman
...
Each Member State shall serve a term of no more than three years from this Charter’s entry into force, subject to renewal by the Chairman.
...
The Board of Peace shall convene voting meetings at least annually and at such additional times and locations as the Chairman deems appropriate. The agenda at such meetings shall be set by the Executive Board, subject to notice and comment by Member States and approval by the Chairman
...
Decisions shall be made by a majority of the Member States present and voting, subject to the approval of the Chairman, who may also cast a vote in his capacity as Chairman in the event of a tie
...
Member States may elect to be represented by an alternate high-ranking official at all meetings, subject to approval by the Chairman
...
The Chairman may issue invitations to relevant regional economic integration organizations to participate in the proceedings of the Board of Peace under such terms and conditions as he deems appropriate.
...
Donald J. Trump shall serve as inaugural Chairman of the Board of Peace, and he shall separately serve as inaugural representative of the United States of America, subject only to the provisions of Chapter III.
...
The Chairman shall have exclusive authority to create, modify, or dissolve subsidiary entities as necessary or appropriate to fulfill the Board of Peace’s mission.
...
The Chairman shall at all times designate a successor for the role of Chairman. Replacement of the Chairman may occur only following voluntary resignation or as a result of incapacity, as determined by a unanimous vote of the Executive Board, at which time the Chairman’s designated successor shall immediately assume the position of the Chairman and all associated duties and authorities of the Chairman.
...
The Chairman may establish subcommittees as necessary or appropriate and shall set the mandate, structure, and governance rules for each such subcommittee.
...
The Executive Board shall be selected by the Chairman and consist of leaders of global stature.
...
Members of the Executive Board shall serve two-year terms, subject to removal by the Chairman and renewable at his discretion.
...
The Executive Board shall be led by a Chief Executive nominated by the Chairman and confirmed by a majority vote of the Executive Board.
...
Decisions of the Executive Board shall be made by a majority of its members present and voting, including the Chief Executive. Such decisions shall go into effect immediately, subject to veto by the Chairman at any time thereafter.
...
...the Chairman is the final authority regarding the meaning, interpretation, and application of this Charter.
...
Amendments to the Charter may be proposed by the Executive Board or at least one-third of the Member States of the Board of Peace acting together. Proposed amendments shall be circulated to all Member States at least thirty (30) days before being voted on. Such amendments shall be adopted upon approval by a two-thirds majority of the Board of Peace and confirmation by the Chairman.
...
The Chairman, acting on behalf of the Board of Peace, is authorized to adopt resolutions or other directives, consistent with this Charter, to implement the Board of Peace’s mission.
...
The Board of Peace shall dissolve at such time as the Chairman considers necessary or appropriate
...
The Board of Peace will have an official seal, which shall be approved by the Chairman
"
https://ww...rter-of-trumps-board-of-peace/

he picks all members, & all on the executive board beneath him (including its chief executive), & his own successor, & can change anything he wants, yadda yadda

unclear if he can be overruled on anything since everything says requires his confirmation or approval

tumbleweed
rank Fri Jan 23 19:52:02
(& successor is only on death/incapacity, no term limit for him, just everyone else... though if you pay the $1 billion, no term limit for you (but gotta pay immediately, not at any time in future, as they know it's a money grab scam))

tumbleweed
rank Fri Jan 23 20:06:26
since he's allowed to unilaterally 'adopt resolutions & directives' of his own, i see no reason he can't decide a Trump property in any country he wants is good for peace & use those billion dollar grabs to fund them

jergul
rank Fri Jan 23 21:06:27
TW
You missed the bit where Trump is double representative. Both as initial Chairman and as rep for the US. Since dismissing chairman for incompacity needs a "unanimous vote" and I think we can trust US rep trump not to vote against chairman trump, there is actually no removal mechanism.

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murder rank	Sun Jan 18 18:31:09 US 'wants countries to pay $1bn to stay on Gaza peace board' Israel says they have not coordinated with the US over the structure of the Trump-backed Board of Peace. Donald Trump wants countries to pay $1bn to be permanent members of the US-backed Board of Peace, according to reports. The Board of Peace will form a key part of the Gaza peace process but a statement from the office of Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said the US did not coordinate its creation with them. Israel's foreign minister Gideon Saar would raise the issue with US Secretary of State Marco ‍Rubio, the statement added. The Board of Peace, unveiled by the White House ‌on Friday, will be chaired by Donald Trump and tasked with supervising Gaza's transitional administration. It would include 11 members who will be part of an executive board, plus additional members. The US administration has reached out to around 60 countries to contribute $1 billion (£747 million) if they want their membership on the board to extend beyond three years, according to a draft charter seen by Reuters and first reported by Bloomberg News. The executive board includes Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan, despite Israel's opposition to any Turkish role in Gaza. Read the rest here: https://ne...y-on-gaza-peace-board-13495801
Sam Adams rank	Sun Jan 18 19:26:31 Why are we paying for that shit hole at all? Let Israel exterminate them and be done with it.
Rugian rank	Sun Jan 18 19:59:59 "Why are we paying for that shit hole at all?" Short answer...Trump and Kushner have major business dealings with the Qataris, who have been leveraging that influence to use POTUS to put a leash on Israel. Before Trump, a bunch of pro-terrorist propaganda had transformed the left into a bunch of anti-Semitic Israel haters who pressured the Biden administration to turn on the country after 10/7. Basically we're living in the stupidest timeline possible.
murder rank	Sun Jan 18 20:06:46 "Basically we're living in the stupidest timeline possible." Not yet, but we're getting there. Also, Trump will eventually turn on Israel. 100% guaranteed. -
Pillz rank	Sun Jan 18 22:30:09 The only valid position the contemporary left holds is anti-Zionism, Rugian
tumbleweed rank	Tue Jan 20 10:08:46 Q: Have you invited Putin to be a member of the Board of Peace? TRUMP: Yeah. He's been invited Q: Any response to Macron saying he won't join? TRUMP: Did he say that? Nobody wants him because he's going to be out of office very soon, so that's alright. What I'll do if they feel hostile, I'll put a 200% tariff on his wines & champagnes & he'll join, but he doesn't have to join, if he said that, you're probably giving it to me a little bit differently, but if he actually did say that... video of ^ https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mctfwshr7n2q no indication of joking (as always, cause he isn't) forced joining to his board (of dictators)... nothing weird or completely insane...
Paramount rank	Tue Jan 20 13:47:36 Trump is right, though. Macron will be out of office soon.
Rugian rank	Tue Jan 20 14:00:35 So he's using tariffs to threaten any country that refuses to pay his bribe money? (I assume he's just pocketing the $1B, or at least a chunk of it) Congress needs to wake the fuck up and put SOME sort of guardrails on this guy already.
Paramount rank	Tue Jan 20 14:03:36 Rugian has become a communist and I would not be surprised if he has joined Antifa by the end of February :o)
murder rank	Tue Jan 20 19:01:50 "Congress needs to wake the fuck up and put SOME sort of guardrails on this guy already." The only way Congress will do anything to stop their boy king is if a few Republicans cross the aisle and take power away from Johnson and Thune. And even then any action would get derailed by Republican obstruction. The GOP chose its path. -
Rugian rank	Fri Jan 23 06:13:16 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump Dear Prime Minister Carney: Please let this Letter serve to represent that the Board of Peace is withdrawing its invitation to you regarding Canada’s joining, what will be, the most prestigious Board of Leaders ever assembled, at any time. Thank you for your attention to this matter! DONALD J. TRUMP PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
tumbleweed rank	Fri Jan 23 06:31:28 Carney criticized him, nobody can do that also, obviously nobody can ask why Trump is the automatic chairman of a board supposedly about rebuilding Gaza & nobody can ask why he retains the seat even after/if leaving the 'presidency' (so clearly it isn't about the USA being head) & of course he has unique veto power over everyone else, as why not
Pillz rank	Fri Jan 23 06:34:25 I'm convinced that Trump got Carney elected on purpose just so he could spend the next several years just trolling the fuck out of him.
tumbleweed rank	Fri Jan 23 07:07:52 if you rearrange 'Board of Peace' it spells 'Legion of Doom'... (if you also change a lot of letters)
Pillz rank	Fri Jan 23 08:15:02 tw trying to explain what it's like for him to make up everything
tumbleweed rank	Fri Jan 23 09:09:34 actually i was thinking it's a lot like what Trump defenders have to do w/ everything he says to pretend it's sane & normal
Seb rank	Fri Jan 23 10:26:31 You guys misheard him. It's called the "Bored of peace"
patom rank	Fri Jan 23 12:42:37 God, I'm glad I'll be checking out of this life sooner than the rest of you.
jergul rank	Fri Jan 23 12:51:18 Patom That I doubt. Rural type lifestyle in a healthy state. You are good for another 8 years just based on averages. Not everyone here will make it that long. Again based on statistics.
Rugian rank	Fri Jan 23 15:44:47 Not to mention, when Trump does finally start World War III, patom you will be in a location far removed from the likely nuclear targets. You will be alive long after the rest of us are reduced to irradiated ash :)
tumbleweed rank	Fri Jan 23 19:40:57 the charter is out, searching on 'chairman', here are some of his powers (spoiler: complete control of everything): " Membership in the Board of Peace is limited to States invited to participate by the Chairman ... Each Member State shall serve a term of no more than three years from this Charter’s entry into force, subject to renewal by the Chairman. ... The Board of Peace shall convene voting meetings at least annually and at such additional times and locations as the Chairman deems appropriate. The agenda at such meetings shall be set by the Executive Board, subject to notice and comment by Member States and approval by the Chairman ... Decisions shall be made by a majority of the Member States present and voting, subject to the approval of the Chairman, who may also cast a vote in his capacity as Chairman in the event of a tie ... Member States may elect to be represented by an alternate high-ranking official at all meetings, subject to approval by the Chairman ... The Chairman may issue invitations to relevant regional economic integration organizations to participate in the proceedings of the Board of Peace under such terms and conditions as he deems appropriate. ... Donald J. Trump shall serve as inaugural Chairman of the Board of Peace, and he shall separately serve as inaugural representative of the United States of America, subject only to the provisions of Chapter III. ... The Chairman shall have exclusive authority to create, modify, or dissolve subsidiary entities as necessary or appropriate to fulfill the Board of Peace’s mission. ... The Chairman shall at all times designate a successor for the role of Chairman. Replacement of the Chairman may occur only following voluntary resignation or as a result of incapacity, as determined by a unanimous vote of the Executive Board, at which time the Chairman’s designated successor shall immediately assume the position of the Chairman and all associated duties and authorities of the Chairman. ... The Chairman may establish subcommittees as necessary or appropriate and shall set the mandate, structure, and governance rules for each such subcommittee. ... The Executive Board shall be selected by the Chairman and consist of leaders of global stature. ... Members of the Executive Board shall serve two-year terms, subject to removal by the Chairman and renewable at his discretion. ... The Executive Board shall be led by a Chief Executive nominated by the Chairman and confirmed by a majority vote of the Executive Board. ... Decisions of the Executive Board shall be made by a majority of its members present and voting, including the Chief Executive. Such decisions shall go into effect immediately, subject to veto by the Chairman at any time thereafter. ... ...the Chairman is the final authority regarding the meaning, interpretation, and application of this Charter. ... Amendments to the Charter may be proposed by the Executive Board or at least one-third of the Member States of the Board of Peace acting together. Proposed amendments shall be circulated to all Member States at least thirty (30) days before being voted on. Such amendments shall be adopted upon approval by a two-thirds majority of the Board of Peace and confirmation by the Chairman. ... The Chairman, acting on behalf of the Board of Peace, is authorized to adopt resolutions or other directives, consistent with this Charter, to implement the Board of Peace’s mission. ... The Board of Peace shall dissolve at such time as the Chairman considers necessary or appropriate ... The Board of Peace will have an official seal, which shall be approved by the Chairman " https://ww...rter-of-trumps-board-of-peace/ he picks all members, & all on the executive board beneath him (including its chief executive), & his own successor, & can change anything he wants, yadda yadda unclear if he can be overruled on anything since everything says requires his confirmation or approval
tumbleweed rank	Fri Jan 23 19:52:02 (& successor is only on death/incapacity, no term limit for him, just everyone else... though if you pay the $1 billion, no term limit for you (but gotta pay immediately, not at any time in future, as they know it's a money grab scam))
tumbleweed rank	Fri Jan 23 20:06:26 since he's allowed to unilaterally 'adopt resolutions & directives' of his own, i see no reason he can't decide a Trump property in any country he wants is good for peace & use those billion dollar grabs to fund them
jergul rank	Fri Jan 23 21:06:27 TW You missed the bit where Trump is double representative. Both as initial Chairman and as rep for the US. Since dismissing chairman for incompacity needs a "unanimous vote" and I think we can trust US rep trump not to vote against chairman trump, there is actually no removal mechanism.
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