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Rugian
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Mon Jan 19 23:12:49
For 446 years, the Roman Republic had been a glowing beacon of civilization in the West, an ever-growing entity that had transformed itself to become the strongest power the world had ever seen. Roman ideals, culture, language, commerce, military might, all became ubiquitous throughout Europe and the Mediterranean. Though suffering the occasional defeat, its inexorable rise and expansion had been a fact of life for centuries on end.

In 63 BC, the Romans brought the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom into its orbit.

Just 14 years later, Rome descended into civil war, resulting in the dictatorship and shortly after the permanent destruction of its republican system of government in favor of oriental-style imperial autocracy.

Coincidence or related? You decide.
Rugian
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Mon Jan 19 23:23:26
Fun fact: the first reference to Jews being present in Rome is in the context of them being expelled from the city for attempting to convert the locals.

"The Jewish community in Rome makes its first appearance in a puzzling episode in 139 B.C. known from Valerius Maximus. The two epitomes of his work record, with some discrepancy of detail, an expulsion of the Jews from Rome (or Italy) in that year by edict of the praetor peregrinus, Cn. Cornelius Hispanus, for an offence given as an attempt "to introduce their own rites to the Romans" or "to infect Roman morals with the cult of Jupiter Sabazius", and one epitome adds that their "private altars" were removed from public places. Although there is no corroborative evidence for Jewish settlement so far west in the second century, it is by no means impossible that some Jews, probably traders, had reached Italy by that time, especially when Palestine was in diplomatic contact with Rome from 161."

https://ww...9&pg=PA129&printsec=frontcover

They were troublemakers from the start.
Cherub Cow
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Mon Jan 19 23:41:27
[Rugian]: "They were troublemakers from the start."

Yes, certainly.
We do of course know that jews are anti-Christ. In their own stories they oppose Christ and tell themselves that he was a jew who opposed their schemes of enslavement and thus had to be executed for his treason against their collective. Even in death they say that his mother was a whore raped by Romans and that Christ is boiling in excrement.

This meant that Christianity began as explicitly anti-jew. Because Christianity became a competitor to jewish enslavement schemes, the Pharisees designed to infiltrate it to re-direct it to their control. The jewish "Apostle" Paul's infiltration is the most notorious early example, with it being his invention that Christians must be "indebted" to God (i.e., a jewish enslavement scheme which Christ opposed since Christ opposed indebtedness).

Catholicism via this subversion thus enabled the papal seat as the seat of the Anti-Christ. A history was falsified of Christ giving the Key to the enslavers, which, of course, is an Anti-Christ inversion.

At any rate, it was infiltrated Christianity which was used as a jewish proxy to socially destabilize the Roman empire. It was, of course, at the time following Christ that Augustus' Roman Peace began to flag. Many of the "solutions" to these Roman ills were what we now recognize as particularly jewish: the further expansion of citizenship to the slavish, the importation of slaves to dispossess genetic Romans, expansion and then liquidation of senates, expansion of the bureaucracies, debasement of currency (jews were money-lenders and money-clippers, fraudsters).

Of course, it was not all one-way. jews themselves complain that Christianity often transformed when in the possession of certain peoples and thus often fell out of their control. There were renewal periods within Rome's Christian periods wherein Christianity restored function to a judaized society. In these periods we see the jew using foreign slave armies and other means of infiltration and disruption, such as their use of Islamic bio-weapons.

We can generally divide jewish schemes within Rome between the use of internal subversion when they possessed enough control of slavish and enfranchised "citizens" and external subversion when they felt internal opposition. What is undeniable is that Rome was never aided by the presence of jews.
Pillz
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Mon Jan 19 23:42:20
Rome fell because they were Trojans. Constantinople carried the legacy of civilization forward because they were Greeks.

History repeats itself.

After the fall of Rome (Troy), Constantinople fell (Mycenaea), and a dark age followed (400 years under the Ottomans).

We can even blame the Greeks for the collapse of Rome, as they were merely the better people, with the greater concentration of wealth, traditions, instincts, and ability.
murder
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Tue Jan 20 06:25:20

As I explained in the past, Christianity was/is a Jewish psyop to destroy Rome and the west.

iykyk

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