Utopia Talk / Politics / Would it be an act of war?

murder rank	Thu Jan 29 17:02:22 Sen. Paul (R-KY) Asks, "If Reversed, Would a Foreign Power Removing a US President Be Act of War?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYeJoFM5oH4 -
murder rank	Thu Jan 29 17:05:05 When Rand Paul is the sane one, you know you're in the loony bin. -
Rugian rank	Thu Jan 29 17:27:50 Rand Paul is usually the sane one. It's your batshit leftist outlook on the world that's in clownland.
murder rank	Thu Jan 29 17:34:56 The "leftists" aren't the ones responsible for the guy on the other side of those questions ... or his mob boss. -
Sam Adams rank	Thu Jan 29 19:00:37 Uh, ya. And ya the us did go to war against the Maduro regime. Duh.
Habebe rank	Thu Jan 29 19:45:02 Like Rubio said, Paul has been consistently the voice of reason, albeit often ignored.
kargen rank	Thu Jan 29 19:54:22 Not even the UN recognized Maduro as the legitimate leader.
murder rank	Thu Jan 29 19:58:50 Next week ... "Not even the UN recognized the Islamic Republic"
Habebe rank	Fri Jan 30 03:18:47 Maduro not being legitimate doesn't mean it's cool to just replace him. M7 in Uganda just shutdown the internet for a week, and kept his rival.bobbi wine shut up in his house with the military outside. But Uganda doesn't have much oil.
kargen rank	Fri Jan 30 06:41:55 murder, except they do if your talking about the Islamic Republic of Iran. They also recognise Venezuela for that matter but didn't recognise Maduro as the leader of Venezuela. Nice try though. They didn't replace him. Not yet. They enforced a warrant for his arrest. If he is found innocent I'm sure he can go back.
jergul rank	Fri Jan 30 11:22:38 So the Trump regime is something distinct from the United States sammy? Interesting. It is then possible to go to war against the regime, but not the country. It would follow that arresting Trump is not really an act of war against the US, simply an act of war against a 2nd term Trump on his way out for age and term limit reasons. Repriocity is a bitch, aint it? Habebe I dont think you will have a legitimate regime in a few year's time. But frankly, "legitimate" is a meaningless term. How a country chooses to govern itself is its own affair. Venezuela exists and is run by its government. Acts of War are against the country, not against some select part of it. We tend to justify actions we take specifically by ignoring sovereignity and think we can act with impunity against actors within that sovereign state.
jergul rank	Fri Jan 30 11:37:00 Kargen Maduro was outside of US jurisdiction and the US had no legal means of enforcing the warrant. Like, I dont really mind that we are formally stepping away from the pretence of a rules based order in global affairs. Rules for thy, not for me was getting a bit tiresome, so good to establish there are no rules at all for anyone. But rather a shame to give up that pillar of Western dominance. It served us (and the US) well for longer than I have been alive. But it is what it is.
jergul rank	Fri Jan 30 11:38:26 And the winner in all this? China of course. GG.
murder rank	Fri Jan 30 16:26:41 "murder, except they do if your talking about the Islamic Republic of Iran." My point was that come next week you won't care. You'll be spewing bullshit in defense of Trump's actions like you just did ... "They didn't replace him. Not yet. They enforced a warrant for his arrest. If he is found innocent I'm sure he can go back." ... with Venezuela. -
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