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Im better then you
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Wed Feb 25 20:10:31
No debate, no votes from Congress, no accountability.

Most military assets in Middle East since Iraq war.

Also no clear demands or realistic goals other than regime change.

tumbleweed
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Wed Feb 25 20:31:23
it's His way


(also his golf buddy w/ no diplomatic experience who's now seemingly our only 'diplomat' said "They’re probably a week away from having industrial-grade bombmaking material" on Faux... remember when Trump said he completely obliterated their nuclear program & anything suggesting otherwise was fake news...)
Sam Adams
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Wed Feb 25 20:34:45
"no votes from Congress"

Not voting to stop it is tacit approval.

"Also no clear demands or realistic goals other than regime change."

Regime change is both clear and realistic.
obaminated
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Wed Feb 25 20:50:37
Yeah regime change is the clear goal. This only goes bad for trump if iran sinks some of our armada. Not saying that won't happen but it's very unlikely, far more likely is we topple the regime and help prop up a nonislamic pro west government.
Sam Adams
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Wed Feb 25 21:07:41
The odds of them sinking a ship is quite low. They might not get a single plane.

The highest chance of this going wrong is to hit the ayatolla but not quite pull off the regime change, or to replace him with chaos and terrorism. The Iranian people are significantly more educated and intelligent than the average Muslim though so odds are this will be closer to postwar Germany and Japan rather than say other interventions but it still might not work.

We shall see.
Im better then you
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Wed Feb 25 21:19:24
"Not voting to stop it is tacit approval."

Its a tacit sign of weakness and frankly cowardness.

"Regime change is both clear and realistic."

If you listen to Trump and war hawks this has something to do with nuclear deal, missile program, human rights, or protesters.
Change to what exactly? The get bombed enough the protesters take over.
Sam Adams
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Wed Feb 25 21:57:36
Install the crown prince
Forwyn
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Wed Feb 25 22:22:57
Lul. After Syria and Libya, Democrats are now crying about Congressional approval again.
murder
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Thu Feb 26 01:13:46

It's only war if they can hit back.

So no.

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Rugian
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Thu Feb 26 01:24:10
Congress is utterly irrelevant.

When it's controlled by the president's party, it's a pure rubberstamp for the president. When it's controlled by the opposition to the president, it engages in theatrics to show how much they oppose the president without doing anything to actually check him.

This current gaggle of Trump dicksuckers in Congress are especially pathetic in terms of their blind fealty to the president at the expense of their own constitutional powers, but this is a bipartisan problem and one that only gets worse with each successive administration.
williamthebastard
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Thu Feb 26 10:20:08
One day the US will pick on someone 1/10th of their size. They wont like how that ends.
Average Ameriacn
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Thu Feb 26 11:59:36
And we will keep their oil!
jergul
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Thu Feb 26 13:16:24
Regime change is clear and realistic?

You cant even identify the regime. The cleric you want to kill is a moral authority with the legal framework to block regime initiatives like say developing a nuclear arsenal. He wrote a Fatwa forbidding it. Not terribly unlike how your supreme court blocks stuff and writes legal and moral justifications for that.

Fixating on a dude pushing towards 100. Iran is actually a republic, so you might want to mention their president more in these imaginary target lists.
murder
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Thu Feb 26 15:35:28

It doesn't matter. Iran is turning bitch.

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Sam Adams
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Thu Feb 26 17:35:00
Jergul you are deluded.
murder
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Thu Feb 26 19:30:28

It's nighttime in Tehran. Is tonight the night?

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Average Ameriacn
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Thu Feb 26 20:07:05
They may retaliate with sleeper agents. Coordinate with your neighbors, patrol the streets, and be alert for strangers wearing turbans.
murder
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Thu Feb 26 20:57:46

No, they would try to blend in. Be alert for strangers who are trying to blend in.

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TheChildren
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Thu Feb 26 20:59:03
ww3 2 begin this weekend?

friday is last day of talks aint it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ic8wLJnC8c

them fatamies 22 have been leaked.

if they brought out fatamies 22s...then we shuld undastand da time is 5 min be4 12

TheChildren
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Sat Feb 28 08:49:46
it has begun!!!

https://ww...n-strikes-middle-east-oil.html

holy shit
TheChildren
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Sat Feb 28 08:57:46
https://ww...nse_minister_we_have_launched/
Hrothgar
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Sat Feb 28 09:05:42
I guess we'll see how well Iran restocked their ballistic missile supply and launchers since last summers spat.

It's laughable how trump played so many Trumpists into "America first, no more wars" to get him elected, and then immediately has done nothing but wars since.
tumbleweed
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Sat Feb 28 09:11:59
hooray, he'll get to end his 9th war
tumbleweed
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Sat Feb 28 09:22:44
supposedly our regime is attacking government buildings
TheChildren
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Sat Feb 28 09:52:55
https://ww...n-strikes-middle-east-oil.html

Paramount
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Sat Feb 28 09:56:19
It’s a war of choice.

Iran has the right to defend itself. And Iran should follow the example of Israel/USA and strike the homes of Israel/USA leaders.

Netanyahu’s home, the Knesset, Israeli ministers homes, Israel’s nuclear power plant, etc. The White House, Pentagon, Maralago, Trump Tower, Lindsey Graham’s home, Marco Rubio et al. The pedophile terrorists must be destroyed. I think everyone can agree with that. Unless you are a pedophile terrorist yourself, of course.
Average Ameriacn
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Sat Feb 28 09:58:31
I never trusted Iran. Never trust muslims!
murder
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Sat Feb 28 09:59:16

The Iranians did the same stupid thing that everyone else does. They just sat there and watched the US build up its force around them and hoped that it would just go away instead of striking first.

Some day someone is going to learn, but it's not going to be today.

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tumbleweed
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Sat Feb 28 10:16:09
fuckhead has claimed (lied) that there were 'imminent threats' so has said the secret code words that let him do as he wants (just like declaring drug smugglers 'terrorists', & trade w/ every nation a national emergency/security threat)

https://tr...Trump/posts/116147082884192486

it's exciting to see someone willing to so shamelessly & openly abuse power so often w/ no consequences
murder
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Sat Feb 28 10:35:59

Everyone spare a thought for jergul who is going to have a hard time watching Russian systems get wrecked again.

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Seb
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Sat Feb 28 11:26:55
I suspect it will fail.

US coercive diplomacy is spent because nobody believes the US has capacity for restraint or consistency cf. Trump surprised he can't a deal after ripping up the last one

Regime change without boots on the ground isn't a thing.

You might get a popular uprising but those don't always pan out how you might want.

Seb
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Sat Feb 28 11:43:21
Hmm, looks like they hit the US 5th fleet HQ (or nearby) with a ballistic missile.
Seb
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Sat Feb 28 11:49:07
Average Ameriacn
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Sat Feb 28 11:55:27
Israeli space lasers will destroy all of Iran's ballistic missiles
murder
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Sat Feb 28 12:17:22

Nimatzo is probably inside Iran working for Mossad. :o)

Paramount
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Sat Feb 28 12:50:00
In a video clip, an American terrorist in Bahrain, panics, shits his pants, and is asking to be fucked, and then wants to flee.

https://x.com/dd_geopolitics/status/2027679889282027648

I also hope that Iran can damage a US aircraft carrier, and all of the US air bases in the region. That would be sweet if they did.
Average Ameriacn
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Sat Feb 28 13:06:15
Paramount no real American soldier would give this kind of target information to the enemy. It's fake.
Paramount
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Sat Feb 28 13:50:34
Now that US bases is being attacked and destroyed throughout the region, the people in these countries has the chance to kick the US terrorists out of their countries.
Average Ameriacn
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Sat Feb 28 13:53:24
Why are you pro Iran? Are you a muslim? Do you want to make women cover their hair? Do you hate women?
Paramount
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Sat Feb 28 14:12:24
Not particularly pro-Iran, but they are by far the lesser evil of the two.

They are not ruled by a genocidal Zionist mafia and pedophiles.

Remember that Iran was attacked. They have the right to defend itself.
Average Ameriacn
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Sat Feb 28 14:17:26
Iran IS pedophile. This is law in Iran according to chatgpt:

In Iran, the legal age of marriage for women (girls) under current law is:

13 years old — this is the standard minimum age for girls to marry under Iranian civil law.

However, with parental (guardian) consent and approval from a judge, girls younger than 13 — effectively as young as about 9 lunar years (≈ 8 years 9 months) — can legally be married.

These exceptions mean there is no absolute minimum age in practice if the court and guardians consent, a situation that has drawn significant human-rights criticism.
Paramount
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Sat Feb 28 14:18:12
The US and Israeli genocidal pedo terrorists bombed a girl school in Teheran, killing 36 children.
Seb
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Sat Feb 28 14:21:08
Ah I see, we are just normalising assassinating politicians of enemy regimes now.

Good, good, I'm sure that won't come back to bite us.
williamthebastard
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Sat Feb 28 14:25:09
I remember when...lol...magas were angrily trying to...rofl...lie through their teeth that Trump...hahaha...was a...lmao...a non-int...rofl...I'm sorry this is hard to sayaaahahahahaa...non-interventionist president! Its true, I promise! rofl!
Renzo Marquez
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Sat Feb 28 14:26:43
Forwyn
rank Wed Feb 25 22:22:57
"Lul. After Syria and Libya, Democrats are now crying about Congressional approval again."

Correct.
Renzo Marquez
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Sat Feb 28 14:34:20
Seb, did you support overthrowing Gaddafi and sending weapons to "moderate" jihadists in Syria?
TheChildren
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Sat Feb 28 15:39:42
"I suspect it will fail. "

>> and fail it will

read da writings on da wall.

that is, unless ww3 starts, then we all fucked
TheChildren
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Sat Feb 28 15:42:39
now dat yall mention it, where is fagmatzo, havent seen him recently. has he been cucked in2 invadin iran like da florida gusanos tried 2 do in cuba?

TheChildren
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Sat Feb 28 15:52:50
https://ww...z2x9/us_naval_base_in_bahrain/

smoked

also, last week there was da steaks and lobsta dinner they was givin troops video on readdit fuckers.

and it was said there that if troops were given fancy dinners and shit, that usually shits bout 2 happen.

i guess now is all clear
murder
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Sat Feb 28 16:28:46

"that is, unless ww3 starts, then we all fucked"

How could WWIII possibly start? The other side can't even defend itself.

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murder
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Sat Feb 28 16:30:09

Iran needs to go all in on developing nukes or this is going to happen every 6 months to a year.

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Renzo Marquez
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Sat Feb 28 16:41:36
LOL. Looks like the Iranian state will not exist in 6 months.
TheChildren
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Sat Feb 28 16:45:59
"When all else fails.
They take you to war.
Gerald Celente"

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