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murder
rank Sat Feb 28 20:34:02
UK planes 'in the sky' in Middle East as part of defensive operation, PM says

British planes "are in the sky" in the Middle East as part of a defensive operation "to protect our people, our interests and our allies", the prime minister has said.

In a pre-recorded statement on Saturday, Sir Keir Starmer said protections for British bases and personnel had been stepped up to their highest level.

The US and Israel launched strikes across multiple Iranian cities including capital Tehran on Saturday morning, after negotiations to limit Iran's nuclear programme ended without a deal. The UK did not participate in the strikes.

Earlier, the PM released a joint statement with the leaders of France and Germany, calling for Iran to "refrain from indiscriminate military strikes".

In his speech, Sir Keir said he wanted to see "peace and security" in the Middle East and the "protection of civilian life".

He added: "Iran can end this now.

"They should refrain from further strikes, give up their weapons programme and cease the appalling violence and oppression of the Iranian people – who deserve the right to determine their own future."

The prime minister condemned Iran's retaliatory attacks "on partners across the region" after explosions were heard in several Middle East countries with US facilities.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20l1v0ldqzo

murder
rank Sat Feb 28 20:34:48

European countries will forever be the US's lap dog ... and the US will forever be Israel's lap dog.

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murder
rank Sat Feb 28 20:40:55

All these guys would be Trump if they could be.

Sam Adams
rank Sat Feb 28 20:46:05
Lol seb is impotent. The UK will help take out the ayatolla, and seb will cry.

pillz
rank Sun Mar 01 01:34:29
Why do we need 3 threads on iran

obaminated
rank Sun Mar 01 01:45:17
Its a big deal. Trump just did something Bush Obama and Biden talked about doing

Habebe
rank Sun Mar 01 02:12:14
I mean, IF Trump can pull this off well (big IF) and if Venezuela and Cuba work in his favor, he will have positioned the US back towards 1990 status.

murder
rank Sun Mar 01 02:55:10

"Why do we need 3 threads on iran"

This thread isn't about Iran. It's about the UK being as garbage as the US is.

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murder
rank Sun Mar 01 02:56:41

"I mean, IF Trump can pull this off well (big IF) and if Venezuela and Cuba work in his favor, he will have positioned the US back towards 1990 status."

Were we the enemy of the world in 1990?

Were we the country everyone feared they needed protection from?

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Sam Adams
rank Sun Mar 01 04:20:55
Only far left shitlickers like CBC and BBC think we are the enemy of the world.

Seb
rank Sun Mar 01 10:41:10
Murder:

We've got bases in the gulf states and we are protecting them from drones and missiles.

That's all.

Seb
rank Sun Mar 01 10:42:15
NaMBLA:

Incorrect.

williamthebastard
rank Sun Mar 01 11:03:02
csam hiding away deep in his fantasy world again, terrified of reality. How sweet to be an idiot.

williamthebastard
rank Sun Mar 01 12:18:28
I see Trump currently has 96% "strongly disapprove" in Denmark. I would expect even Hitler had slightly better figures than that.

TheChildren
rank Sun Mar 01 13:34:32
da planes and jets patrollin...

obviously workin as intended

just like all da supreme air defenses and shit

acc is over 8 percent bitches, take that!

murder
rank Sun Mar 01 14:19:15

"We've got bases in the gulf states and we are protecting them from drones and missiles. That's all."

I see. And blaming Iran for defending itself and trying to sell the bullshit that the path to peace for Iran is to make itself even more vulnerable to attack ... are the acts of a non-participant?

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Seb
rank Sun Mar 01 18:07:59
Murder:

"And blaming Iran for defending itself and trying to sell the bullshit that the path to peace for Iran is to make itself even more vulnerable to attack ... are the acts of a non-participant?"

You might remember we had control of the Shia bit of Iraq and Iranian backed militias killed a lot of Brits there in Iran's quest to bring the siren of Iraq under their sway. They also grabbed one of our boats, paraded our servicemen etc.

And on a wider perspective they destabilise and attack our allies in the region.

Iran is an enemy state to the UK, even if we are not at war.

So what do you expect? That the British Govt is suddenly going to rally to make statements in support of this regime? We don't want them to have a bomb. We don't think they are "just defending themselves". We think they are a murderous regime. Last year we caught three guys with links to the Iranian state plotting a terror attack in the UK. So we aren't really that concerned that Iran's current govt be would be less able to defend itself.

But equally we don't support breaking international law to murder their leadership and bomb the country flat. Not because we love Iran, but because we do value internal law and norms generally, and because the likely result of a shattered failed state in Iran is negative to UK security. Absent a friendly and stable govt in Iran, a contained Islamic Republic is the best option in the interests of the UK. But if Israel and the US are going to do an illegal attack, there's not much the UK can do about it other than stay out.

Why do people find this idea that you have to definitively fall into one camp or another?

Seb
rank Sun Mar 01 18:08:43
Also, how is attacking gulf states civilians "defending itself"?

murder
rank Sun Mar 01 18:21:44

Armies don't go to war, nations do.

Also, completely unrelated ... fuck those 9/11 supporters. All those gulf states should have been nuked off the face of the Earth a quarter century ago.

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murder
rank Sun Mar 01 18:27:11

"You might remember we had control of the Shia bit of Iraq and Iranian backed militias killed a lot of Brits there in Iran's quest to bring the siren of Iraq under their sway. They also grabbed one of our boats, paraded our servicemen etc."

I have a vague recollection of that. That was in the English Channel, right?

Maybe, and I'm just spitballing here, maybe they hate you because you're a fucking imperial power with a history in that part of the world.

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Sam Adams
rank Sun Mar 01 18:29:26
"But equally we don't support breaking international law to murder their leadership and bomb the country flat. Not because we love Iran, but because we do value internal law and norms generally"

No, it's because you are a coward. Churchill would have cut their throats long ago.

"Last year we caught three guys with links to the Iranian state plotting a terror attack in the UK."

Lol. Yet you still cry and scream about how we shouldn't fight back

Forwyn
rank Sun Mar 01 21:34:33
"But equally we don't support breaking international law to murder their leadership and bomb the country flat. Not because we love Syria, but because we do value internal law and norms generally, and because the likely result of a shattered failed state in Syria is negative to UK security."

Seb, 2013, if he had an ounce of consistency

Seb
rank Sun Mar 01 22:22:18
Murder:

We aren't at war though.

I'm not sure what your point is.

Seb
rank Sun Mar 01 22:28:37
Also why does the UK give a shit about the gulf states opinion on 9/11?

"That was in the English Channel, right?"
No, it was on the Iraqi side of the gulf.

"maybe they hate you because you're a fucking imperial power with a history in that part of the world."

And so we should be happy if they bomb our bases and allies, and welcome their murderous regime spreading chaos, anarchy and terror.

I don't think so.

There was an opportunity for detente, but the US fucked it up; and it's an all or nothing thing.

But nobody in the UK govt or state is crying tears for the Islamic Republic.

Seb
rank Sun Mar 01 22:35:54
NaMBLA:

It's pretty easy to talk tough when you've been rejected from military service due to poor mental health, isn't it?

"Yet you still cry and scream about how we shouldn't fight back"

You know the old story about getting into a wrestling match with a pig?

Forwyn:

"Seb, 2013, if he had an ounce of consistency"

Well no, because there was a basis in international law to intervene in Libya to prevent a crime against humanity.

There might have been an argument a few weeks/months ago in respect of Iran, but not for this kind of action. Also, as I said, I supported it with the assumption of an international stabilization force.

The question is why you, opposing intervention against Libya, are supporting this one now even though this is like Libya on steroids.

Seb
rank Sun Mar 01 22:36:48
By the way, why is it you guys are so obsessed with Libya?

It's just an Obama thing right?

TheChildren
rank Sun Mar 01 22:54:53
holy crap, is happenin!?

first jet downed?
a fatamy? 22? 35?

___________

" An unidentified aircraft was downed near Damavand, Iran

report it is a fighter jet, however I would urge EXTREME caution"

>>
is it happenin O.o?

TheChildren
rank Sun Mar 01 23:02:55
https://x.com/AryJeay/status/2028207284002623515

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murder rank	Sat Feb 28 20:34:02 UK planes 'in the sky' in Middle East as part of defensive operation, PM says British planes "are in the sky" in the Middle East as part of a defensive operation "to protect our people, our interests and our allies", the prime minister has said. In a pre-recorded statement on Saturday, Sir Keir Starmer said protections for British bases and personnel had been stepped up to their highest level. The US and Israel launched strikes across multiple Iranian cities including capital Tehran on Saturday morning, after negotiations to limit Iran's nuclear programme ended without a deal. The UK did not participate in the strikes. Earlier, the PM released a joint statement with the leaders of France and Germany, calling for Iran to "refrain from indiscriminate military strikes". In his speech, Sir Keir said he wanted to see "peace and security" in the Middle East and the "protection of civilian life". He added: "Iran can end this now. "They should refrain from further strikes, give up their weapons programme and cease the appalling violence and oppression of the Iranian people – who deserve the right to determine their own future." The prime minister condemned Iran's retaliatory attacks "on partners across the region" after explosions were heard in several Middle East countries with US facilities. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20l1v0ldqzo
murder rank	Sat Feb 28 20:34:48 European countries will forever be the US's lap dog ... and the US will forever be Israel's lap dog. -
murder rank	Sat Feb 28 20:40:55 All these guys would be Trump if they could be.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Feb 28 20:46:05 Lol seb is impotent. The UK will help take out the ayatolla, and seb will cry.
pillz rank	Sun Mar 01 01:34:29 Why do we need 3 threads on iran
obaminated rank	Sun Mar 01 01:45:17 Its a big deal. Trump just did something Bush Obama and Biden talked about doing
Habebe rank	Sun Mar 01 02:12:14 I mean, IF Trump can pull this off well (big IF) and if Venezuela and Cuba work in his favor, he will have positioned the US back towards 1990 status.
murder rank	Sun Mar 01 02:55:10 "Why do we need 3 threads on iran" This thread isn't about Iran. It's about the UK being as garbage as the US is. -
murder rank	Sun Mar 01 02:56:41 "I mean, IF Trump can pull this off well (big IF) and if Venezuela and Cuba work in his favor, he will have positioned the US back towards 1990 status." Were we the enemy of the world in 1990? Were we the country everyone feared they needed protection from? -
Sam Adams rank	Sun Mar 01 04:20:55 Only far left shitlickers like CBC and BBC think we are the enemy of the world.
Seb rank	Sun Mar 01 10:41:10 Murder: We've got bases in the gulf states and we are protecting them from drones and missiles. That's all.
Seb rank	Sun Mar 01 10:42:15 NaMBLA: Incorrect.
williamthebastard rank	Sun Mar 01 11:03:02 csam hiding away deep in his fantasy world again, terrified of reality. How sweet to be an idiot.
williamthebastard rank	Sun Mar 01 12:18:28 I see Trump currently has 96% "strongly disapprove" in Denmark. I would expect even Hitler had slightly better figures than that.
TheChildren rank	Sun Mar 01 13:34:32 da planes and jets patrollin... obviously workin as intended just like all da supreme air defenses and shit acc is over 8 percent bitches, take that!
murder rank	Sun Mar 01 14:19:15 "We've got bases in the gulf states and we are protecting them from drones and missiles. That's all." I see. And blaming Iran for defending itself and trying to sell the bullshit that the path to peace for Iran is to make itself even more vulnerable to attack ... are the acts of a non-participant? -
Seb rank	Sun Mar 01 18:07:59 Murder: "And blaming Iran for defending itself and trying to sell the bullshit that the path to peace for Iran is to make itself even more vulnerable to attack ... are the acts of a non-participant?" You might remember we had control of the Shia bit of Iraq and Iranian backed militias killed a lot of Brits there in Iran's quest to bring the siren of Iraq under their sway. They also grabbed one of our boats, paraded our servicemen etc. And on a wider perspective they destabilise and attack our allies in the region. Iran is an enemy state to the UK, even if we are not at war. So what do you expect? That the British Govt is suddenly going to rally to make statements in support of this regime? We don't want them to have a bomb. We don't think they are "just defending themselves". We think they are a murderous regime. Last year we caught three guys with links to the Iranian state plotting a terror attack in the UK. So we aren't really that concerned that Iran's current govt be would be less able to defend itself. But equally we don't support breaking international law to murder their leadership and bomb the country flat. Not because we love Iran, but because we do value internal law and norms generally, and because the likely result of a shattered failed state in Iran is negative to UK security. Absent a friendly and stable govt in Iran, a contained Islamic Republic is the best option in the interests of the UK. But if Israel and the US are going to do an illegal attack, there's not much the UK can do about it other than stay out. Why do people find this idea that you have to definitively fall into one camp or another?
Seb rank	Sun Mar 01 18:08:43 Also, how is attacking gulf states civilians "defending itself"?
murder rank	Sun Mar 01 18:21:44 Armies don't go to war, nations do. Also, completely unrelated ... fuck those 9/11 supporters. All those gulf states should have been nuked off the face of the Earth a quarter century ago. -
murder rank	Sun Mar 01 18:27:11 "You might remember we had control of the Shia bit of Iraq and Iranian backed militias killed a lot of Brits there in Iran's quest to bring the siren of Iraq under their sway. They also grabbed one of our boats, paraded our servicemen etc." I have a vague recollection of that. That was in the English Channel, right? Maybe, and I'm just spitballing here, maybe they hate you because you're a fucking imperial power with a history in that part of the world. -
Sam Adams rank	Sun Mar 01 18:29:26 "But equally we don't support breaking international law to murder their leadership and bomb the country flat. Not because we love Iran, but because we do value internal law and norms generally" No, it's because you are a coward. Churchill would have cut their throats long ago. "Last year we caught three guys with links to the Iranian state plotting a terror attack in the UK." Lol. Yet you still cry and scream about how we shouldn't fight back
Forwyn rank	Sun Mar 01 21:34:33 "But equally we don't support breaking international law to murder their leadership and bomb the country flat. Not because we love Syria, but because we do value internal law and norms generally, and because the likely result of a shattered failed state in Syria is negative to UK security." Seb, 2013, if he had an ounce of consistency
Seb rank	Sun Mar 01 22:22:18 Murder: We aren't at war though. I'm not sure what your point is.
Seb rank	Sun Mar 01 22:28:37 Also why does the UK give a shit about the gulf states opinion on 9/11? "That was in the English Channel, right?" No, it was on the Iraqi side of the gulf. "maybe they hate you because you're a fucking imperial power with a history in that part of the world." And so we should be happy if they bomb our bases and allies, and welcome their murderous regime spreading chaos, anarchy and terror. I don't think so. There was an opportunity for detente, but the US fucked it up; and it's an all or nothing thing. But nobody in the UK govt or state is crying tears for the Islamic Republic.
Seb rank	Sun Mar 01 22:35:54 NaMBLA: It's pretty easy to talk tough when you've been rejected from military service due to poor mental health, isn't it? "Yet you still cry and scream about how we shouldn't fight back" You know the old story about getting into a wrestling match with a pig? Forwyn: "Seb, 2013, if he had an ounce of consistency" Well no, because there was a basis in international law to intervene in Libya to prevent a crime against humanity. There might have been an argument a few weeks/months ago in respect of Iran, but not for this kind of action. Also, as I said, I supported it with the assumption of an international stabilization force. The question is why you, opposing intervention against Libya, are supporting this one now even though this is like Libya on steroids.
Seb rank	Sun Mar 01 22:36:48 By the way, why is it you guys are so obsessed with Libya? It's just an Obama thing right?
TheChildren rank	Sun Mar 01 22:54:53 holy crap, is happenin!? first jet downed? a fatamy? 22? 35? ___________ " An unidentified aircraft was downed near Damavand, Iran report it is a fighter jet, however I would urge EXTREME caution" >> is it happenin O.o?
TheChildren rank	Sun Mar 01 23:02:55 https://x.com/AryJeay/status/2028207284002623515
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