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murder
rank Mon Mar 09 11:13:35
a bomb or missile finds Iran's new Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei?

I'm putting the over/under at 72 hours.

Place your bets.

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jergul
rank Mon Mar 09 11:48:19
Iran does have secure bunkers. See issues with destroying missile/drone storage and nuclear material for examples.

I will go with over.

jergul
rank Mon Mar 09 11:49:44
You do get that you killed his father in "day that will forever live on in infamy" event right?

Can you imagine how batshit you would be if some country's declaration of war was assassinating your head of state?

jergul
rank Mon Mar 09 11:51:06
Point being. They had no particular reason to have high security when you murdered them. Murder because you were not in a state of war until the moment that happened.

Allahuakbar
rank Mon Mar 09 11:51:22
He will live longer than Trump!

But if not, then he will be ready for his place in Jannah, while Trump will end in Hāwiyah.

Allahuakbar
rank Mon Mar 09 12:05:03
Why you should fear him!

https://ww...hird-leader-islamic-revolution

(unlike your leader Trump, who was never in the military:)

His early youth coincided with one of the most turbulent periods in modern Iranian history. At just seventeen years old, during the Iran-Iraq War, he volunteered on the front lines and served as a member of the Habib ibn Mazaher Battalion of the 27th Mohammad Rasulollah Division in Tehran.

(he is not only fighting for Islam, but also to avenge his family:)

His wife was martyred on February 28 in the illegal US-Israeli military aggression against the Islamic Republic that also led to the martyrdom of the Leader of the Islamic Revolution.

(he has knowledge of the highest level, while your leader stole money with a fake university:)

Over the years, his lectures in Qom seminary have attracted thousands of students, making his classes among the most widely attended in the world-famous seminary.

(if you would be honest you would admit that he is a 1000 times better leader than Trump)

murder
rank Mon Mar 09 12:24:37

"Can you imagine how batshit you would be if some country's declaration of war was assassinating your head of state?"

Every day would be Christmas. :o)

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murder
rank Mon Mar 09 12:35:37

"if you would be honest you would admit that he is a 1000 times better leader than Trump"

A thousand times better than Trump is a very low bar and nothing to brag about.

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Paramount
rank Mon Mar 09 13:06:18
Iran will just elect a new leader, for as long as it takes.

Does the US terrorists have 90 million tomahawks? Doubt it.

Sam Adams
rank Mon Mar 09 15:12:53
Lol jergul getting butthurt over the obviously justified killing of the ayatolla

jergul
rank Mon Mar 09 15:42:20
Incredibly dishonourable.

Habebe
rank Mon Mar 09 16:24:52
Or we run out of interceptors.

This is why we are hitting their missile stockpiles.

They've already announced a plan to switch munitions.

Hrothgar
rank Mon Mar 09 16:47:19
"He will live longer than Trump!

But if not, then he will be ready for his place in Jannah, while Trump will end in Hāwiyah."

I love how you frame this so that you can claim you were right no matter what happens. lol

No matter what happens with Iran state leaders, I don't get the sense the population in general will react with over throwing their military power structure while under attack, or it would have happened already.

Which means we are far more likely to see a shitty, rushed US ground invasion (and US conscription) due to the massive unpopularity of the war and size of the ground force required vs Iran changing administrative state significantly from the inside. If this happens the US casualties will be the greatest since Vietnam with all the FPV and munition dropping drone maiming and killing Iran has surely prepared for by watching Ukraine.

Oh, and lets not even get further into the future where pretty much every state no matter what the size will be seeking nuclear weapons, as it seems the only way to keep a psycho super power from blowing you up on a whims of a billionaire.

Sam Adams
rank Mon Mar 09 16:52:20
Yes it is so dishonorable killing the guy that leads death to America chants and funds hamas.

Lmfao.

Sam Adams
rank Mon Mar 09 16:52:58
After giving him a chance to negotiate too.

Hrothgar
rank Mon Mar 09 17:24:41
Don't misunderstand, I'm not sad he got taken out. But the lack of any sort of plan afterward beyond "we hear that the Iranians will rise up" is grossly problematic.

Sam Adams
rank Mon Mar 09 17:27:54
My comment was aimed at jergul. Your take is much more reasonable, other than the conscription but.

Sam Adams
rank Mon Mar 09 17:29:29
Bit

jergul
rank Mon Mar 09 17:31:49
Hrothgar
There is never any plan for afterwards that begins with killing heads of state. That is one of the reasons it was tabo for most of the post war period.

Sammy
Pathetically dishonourable. Slavic blood runs thick in the US I see.

Rugian
rank Mon Mar 09 18:04:30
Well, if Iran does try and pop off on Trump, I can't say they don't have precedent to justify it.

But that would be akin to the Gauls assassinating Caesar in revenge for the execution of Vercingetorix. Sure, it would have been justified...but it also would have been a fantastically bad idea.

Sam Adams
rank Mon Mar 09 18:19:22
Filthy fucking gauls.

Sam Adams
rank Mon Mar 09 18:25:13
There's a lot of similarities. The US is like rome, mighty and not someone to piss off. The gauls are iran... They caused some trouble and now are getting their ass kicked.

Modern euros are greeks... Used to be powerful, think they are intelligent, but really they just want to have butt sex and complain about philosophy.

jergul
rank Mon Mar 09 19:01:16
Trump is Caesar in that analogy. Rofl. Caligula maybe.

Ruggy, that was not my point. I was illustrating how outragous starting a war by killing a head of state is. You are forcing Iranians to support the regime or give up patriotism. Iranians are very patriotic.

Not sure it would have been a bad idea. The Gaul conquests were personality based. Get rid of the personality and the problem with effective Roman aggression would be solved. At least long enough for Gauls to try and consolidate power around a single leader themselves.

But like I said, Trump is no Caesar.

Average Ameriacn
rank Mon Mar 09 19:05:36
Trump is someone named Maximus.

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murder rank	Mon Mar 09 11:13:35 a bomb or missile finds Iran's new Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei? I'm putting the over/under at 72 hours. Place your bets. -
jergul rank	Mon Mar 09 11:48:19 Iran does have secure bunkers. See issues with destroying missile/drone storage and nuclear material for examples. I will go with over.
jergul rank	Mon Mar 09 11:49:44 You do get that you killed his father in "day that will forever live on in infamy" event right? Can you imagine how batshit you would be if some country's declaration of war was assassinating your head of state?
jergul rank	Mon Mar 09 11:51:06 Point being. They had no particular reason to have high security when you murdered them. Murder because you were not in a state of war until the moment that happened.
Allahuakbar rank	Mon Mar 09 11:51:22 He will live longer than Trump! But if not, then he will be ready for his place in Jannah, while Trump will end in Hāwiyah.
Allahuakbar rank	Mon Mar 09 12:05:03 Why you should fear him! https://ww...hird-leader-islamic-revolution (unlike your leader Trump, who was never in the military:) His early youth coincided with one of the most turbulent periods in modern Iranian history. At just seventeen years old, during the Iran-Iraq War, he volunteered on the front lines and served as a member of the Habib ibn Mazaher Battalion of the 27th Mohammad Rasulollah Division in Tehran. (he is not only fighting for Islam, but also to avenge his family:) His wife was martyred on February 28 in the illegal US-Israeli military aggression against the Islamic Republic that also led to the martyrdom of the Leader of the Islamic Revolution. (he has knowledge of the highest level, while your leader stole money with a fake university:) Over the years, his lectures in Qom seminary have attracted thousands of students, making his classes among the most widely attended in the world-famous seminary. (if you would be honest you would admit that he is a 1000 times better leader than Trump)
murder rank	Mon Mar 09 12:24:37 "Can you imagine how batshit you would be if some country's declaration of war was assassinating your head of state?" Every day would be Christmas. :o) -
murder rank	Mon Mar 09 12:35:37 "if you would be honest you would admit that he is a 1000 times better leader than Trump" A thousand times better than Trump is a very low bar and nothing to brag about. -
Paramount rank	Mon Mar 09 13:06:18 Iran will just elect a new leader, for as long as it takes. Does the US terrorists have 90 million tomahawks? Doubt it.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 09 15:12:53 Lol jergul getting butthurt over the obviously justified killing of the ayatolla
jergul rank	Mon Mar 09 15:42:20 Incredibly dishonourable.
Habebe rank	Mon Mar 09 16:24:52 Or we run out of interceptors. This is why we are hitting their missile stockpiles. They've already announced a plan to switch munitions.
Hrothgar rank	Mon Mar 09 16:47:19 "He will live longer than Trump! But if not, then he will be ready for his place in Jannah, while Trump will end in Hāwiyah." I love how you frame this so that you can claim you were right no matter what happens. lol No matter what happens with Iran state leaders, I don't get the sense the population in general will react with over throwing their military power structure while under attack, or it would have happened already. Which means we are far more likely to see a shitty, rushed US ground invasion (and US conscription) due to the massive unpopularity of the war and size of the ground force required vs Iran changing administrative state significantly from the inside. If this happens the US casualties will be the greatest since Vietnam with all the FPV and munition dropping drone maiming and killing Iran has surely prepared for by watching Ukraine. Oh, and lets not even get further into the future where pretty much every state no matter what the size will be seeking nuclear weapons, as it seems the only way to keep a psycho super power from blowing you up on a whims of a billionaire.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 09 16:52:20 Yes it is so dishonorable killing the guy that leads death to America chants and funds hamas. Lmfao.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 09 16:52:58 After giving him a chance to negotiate too.
Hrothgar rank	Mon Mar 09 17:24:41 Don't misunderstand, I'm not sad he got taken out. But the lack of any sort of plan afterward beyond "we hear that the Iranians will rise up" is grossly problematic.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 09 17:27:54 My comment was aimed at jergul. Your take is much more reasonable, other than the conscription but.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 09 17:29:29 Bit
jergul rank	Mon Mar 09 17:31:49 Hrothgar There is never any plan for afterwards that begins with killing heads of state. That is one of the reasons it was tabo for most of the post war period. Sammy Pathetically dishonourable. Slavic blood runs thick in the US I see.
Rugian rank	Mon Mar 09 18:04:30 Well, if Iran does try and pop off on Trump, I can't say they don't have precedent to justify it. But that would be akin to the Gauls assassinating Caesar in revenge for the execution of Vercingetorix. Sure, it would have been justified...but it also would have been a fantastically bad idea.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 09 18:19:22 Filthy fucking gauls.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 09 18:25:13 There's a lot of similarities. The US is like rome, mighty and not someone to piss off. The gauls are iran... They caused some trouble and now are getting their ass kicked. Modern euros are greeks... Used to be powerful, think they are intelligent, but really they just want to have butt sex and complain about philosophy.
jergul rank	Mon Mar 09 19:01:16 Trump is Caesar in that analogy. Rofl. Caligula maybe. Ruggy, that was not my point. I was illustrating how outragous starting a war by killing a head of state is. You are forcing Iranians to support the regime or give up patriotism. Iranians are very patriotic. Not sure it would have been a bad idea. The Gaul conquests were personality based. Get rid of the personality and the problem with effective Roman aggression would be solved. At least long enough for Gauls to try and consolidate power around a single leader themselves. But like I said, Trump is no Caesar.
Average Ameriacn rank	Mon Mar 09 19:05:36 Trump is someone named Maximus.
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