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murder rank	Mon Mar 09 11:13:35 a bomb or missile finds Iran's new Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei? I'm putting the over/under at 72 hours. Place your bets. -
jergul rank	Mon Mar 09 11:48:19 Iran does have secure bunkers. See issues with destroying missile/drone storage and nuclear material for examples. I will go with over.
jergul rank	Mon Mar 09 11:49:44 You do get that you killed his father in "day that will forever live on in infamy" event right? Can you imagine how batshit you would be if some country's declaration of war was assassinating your head of state?
jergul rank	Mon Mar 09 11:51:06 Point being. They had no particular reason to have high security when you murdered them. Murder because you were not in a state of war until the moment that happened.
Allahuakbar rank	Mon Mar 09 11:51:22 He will live longer than Trump! But if not, then he will be ready for his place in Jannah, while Trump will end in Hāwiyah.
Allahuakbar rank	Mon Mar 09 12:05:03 Why you should fear him! https://ww...hird-leader-islamic-revolution (unlike your leader Trump, who was never in the military:) His early youth coincided with one of the most turbulent periods in modern Iranian history. At just seventeen years old, during the Iran-Iraq War, he volunteered on the front lines and served as a member of the Habib ibn Mazaher Battalion of the 27th Mohammad Rasulollah Division in Tehran. (he is not only fighting for Islam, but also to avenge his family:) His wife was martyred on February 28 in the illegal US-Israeli military aggression against the Islamic Republic that also led to the martyrdom of the Leader of the Islamic Revolution. (he has knowledge of the highest level, while your leader stole money with a fake university:) Over the years, his lectures in Qom seminary have attracted thousands of students, making his classes among the most widely attended in the world-famous seminary. (if you would be honest you would admit that he is a 1000 times better leader than Trump)
murder rank	Mon Mar 09 12:24:37 "Can you imagine how batshit you would be if some country's declaration of war was assassinating your head of state?" Every day would be Christmas. :o) -
murder rank	Mon Mar 09 12:35:37 "if you would be honest you would admit that he is a 1000 times better leader than Trump" A thousand times better than Trump is a very low bar and nothing to brag about. -
Paramount rank	Mon Mar 09 13:06:18 Iran will just elect a new leader, for as long as it takes. Does the US terrorists have 90 million tomahawks? Doubt it.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 09 15:12:53 Lol jergul getting butthurt over the obviously justified killing of the ayatolla
jergul rank	Mon Mar 09 15:42:20 Incredibly dishonourable.
Habebe rank	Mon Mar 09 16:24:52 Or we run out of interceptors. This is why we are hitting their missile stockpiles. They've already announced a plan to switch munitions.
Hrothgar rank	Mon Mar 09 16:47:19 "He will live longer than Trump! But if not, then he will be ready for his place in Jannah, while Trump will end in Hāwiyah." I love how you frame this so that you can claim you were right no matter what happens. lol No matter what happens with Iran state leaders, I don't get the sense the population in general will react with over throwing their military power structure while under attack, or it would have happened already. Which means we are far more likely to see a shitty, rushed US ground invasion (and US conscription) due to the massive unpopularity of the war and size of the ground force required vs Iran changing administrative state significantly from the inside. If this happens the US casualties will be the greatest since Vietnam with all the FPV and munition dropping drone maiming and killing Iran has surely prepared for by watching Ukraine. Oh, and lets not even get further into the future where pretty much every state no matter what the size will be seeking nuclear weapons, as it seems the only way to keep a psycho super power from blowing you up on a whims of a billionaire.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 09 16:52:20 Yes it is so dishonorable killing the guy that leads death to America chants and funds hamas. Lmfao.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 09 16:52:58 After giving him a chance to negotiate too.
Hrothgar rank	Mon Mar 09 17:24:41 Don't misunderstand, I'm not sad he got taken out. But the lack of any sort of plan afterward beyond "we hear that the Iranians will rise up" is grossly problematic.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 09 17:27:54 My comment was aimed at jergul. Your take is much more reasonable, other than the conscription but.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 09 17:29:29 Bit
jergul rank	Mon Mar 09 17:31:49 Hrothgar There is never any plan for afterwards that begins with killing heads of state. That is one of the reasons it was tabo for most of the post war period. Sammy Pathetically dishonourable. Slavic blood runs thick in the US I see.
Rugian rank	Mon Mar 09 18:04:30 Well, if Iran does try and pop off on Trump, I can't say they don't have precedent to justify it. But that would be akin to the Gauls assassinating Caesar in revenge for the execution of Vercingetorix. Sure, it would have been justified...but it also would have been a fantastically bad idea.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 09 18:19:22 Filthy fucking gauls.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 09 18:25:13 There's a lot of similarities. The US is like rome, mighty and not someone to piss off. The gauls are iran... They caused some trouble and now are getting their ass kicked. Modern euros are greeks... Used to be powerful, think they are intelligent, but really they just want to have butt sex and complain about philosophy.
jergul rank	Mon Mar 09 19:01:16 Trump is Caesar in that analogy. Rofl. Caligula maybe. Ruggy, that was not my point. I was illustrating how outragous starting a war by killing a head of state is. You are forcing Iranians to support the regime or give up patriotism. Iranians are very patriotic. Not sure it would have been a bad idea. The Gaul conquests were personality based. Get rid of the personality and the problem with effective Roman aggression would be solved. At least long enough for Gauls to try and consolidate power around a single leader themselves. But like I said, Trump is no Caesar.
Average Ameriacn rank	Mon Mar 09 19:05:36 Trump is someone named Maximus.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 09 19:13:22 ”I was illustrating how outragous starting a war by killing a head of state is.” Lol. As outrageous as supporting terror groups abroad? If you want protection under the rules of war, you have to act with honor too. The ayatolla violated this 1000 times over.
jergul rank	Mon Mar 09 19:25:37 Rofl.
jergul rank	Mon Mar 09 19:36:09 And the new guy? Turns out you killed most of his family in the strike. Not exactly clinical that strike. Very dishonourable.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 09 20:13:17 Lol jergul is all butthurt because we smushed a leader of terrorists and part of his shit eating family.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 09 20:13:59 Don't like it? Too bad, you don't have a choice.
jergul rank	Mon Mar 09 20:35:08 I am merely saddened by your gross dishonour.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 09 20:37:57 You support Russia too so your concept of honor must clearly be backwards. So thank you. I'll take that as a compliment.
Seb rank	Mon Mar 09 20:51:34 Ah the hidden Madhi. The shia know all about those
Seb rank	Mon Mar 09 20:58:37 Sam: Supporting terrorist abroad is pretty much US foreign policy, let's be honest.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 09 21:22:26 Name 1 group that we supported on a government level that is even 1/10th as bad as any of the groups the ayatolla equipped. No, a few retarded irishmen in Boston smuggling some guns to the ira does not remotely count.
Asgard rank	Mon Mar 09 22:09:13 Well, To be frank, arming Osama with stingers on his adventures in Afghanistan against the USSR wasn’t too great An atheist is better than a Jihadist, any day
Pillz rank	Mon Mar 09 22:29:26 Sam can't be stupid enough to believe the shit he says about iran lol
Pillz rank	Mon Mar 09 22:30:09 Also, hope Asgard and his family are blown to smithereens
Asgard rank	Mon Mar 09 22:48:47 I’d like to know why you wish for that
Pillz rank	Mon Mar 09 22:52:04 Righteousness
Asgard rank	Mon Mar 09 23:14:29 Elaborate
Forwyn rank	Mon Mar 09 23:30:08 "that is even 1/10th as bad as any of the groups the ayatolla equipped." Nour al-Din al-Zenki
Seb rank	Tue Mar 10 00:07:30 NaMBLA: The Mujahideen, part of whom became the Taliban, and also Al-qaeda.
Sam Adams rank	Tue Mar 10 02:20:37 None of them were that bad at the time, pedo seb.
Sam Adams rank	Tue Mar 10 02:22:37 That's like saying the British empire shouldn't have trained colonists to fight in the 7 years war because we were going to use those skills against you a decade later. No wonder you import pedophiles. You are dumb.
Seb rank	Tue Mar 10 09:29:19 NaMBLA: Oh they were. Just to Russians, so you don't cover it. Just like your support to right wing regimes glasses over the torture of opponents, disappearing people, kidnapping and forced adoption of children etc. Which of course brings us to Iran and why there are very strong feelings against America, given you taking that playbook to the Shah's regime against social democrats.
Pillz rank	Tue Mar 10 15:10:06 Lmao what right wing regime exists that Sam supports exactly Also reminder to Sam the Jews danced to celebrate the towers falling
jergul rank	Tue Mar 10 16:06:38 Were they wrong to celebrate with the benefit of hindsight? Seems to have worked out well for Israel.
Sam Adams rank	Tue Mar 10 16:46:35 "Just to Russians" Ya, in battle. Lol pedo seb you retard. "Jews danced to celebrate the towers falling " This is the kind of thing seb the pedo would believe. You are smarter than seb.
jergul rank	Tue Mar 10 17:25:04 Its a matter of record that it happened. I would have gone with bad apples. 99.999% did not dance. But my point stands. It was not hard to see that the US would get drawn into the ME with interests aligned with Israel's. I think many were relieved, not happy, that the US would not be able to disengage from the ME after 9-11.
Pillz rank	Tue Mar 10 20:40:31 Im smarter than seb but it's starting to look like you might not be!
Seb rank	Tue Mar 10 22:09:11 NaMBLA: Do you really think then, for example, they only started raping children after the Russians left? Or is it just that you think that's ok?
Sam Adams rank	Wed Mar 11 01:32:18 Seb complaining about raping children while importing child rapists in exchange for their votes lol.
Seb rank	Wed Mar 11 01:51:44 These immigrant voters - are they in the room with us now? Is that why you are fondling your zipper?
Rugian rank	Wed Mar 11 02:42:40 Seb Let us stipulate that Trump and his gaggle of chucklefucks can't be entrusted to be honest about the ins and outs of migrants and American immigration policy. At the same time, Sam Adams is merely reflecting the stated policy position of Democrats in terms of mass offers of citizenship to illegal immigrants, with the implicit assumption that said newly-minted citizens would reward the Democrats by supporting them in future elections. This is what the leader of the Senate Democrats said a few years ago: "Now more than ever we're short of workers. We have a population that is not reproducing on its own with the same level that it used to. The only way we’re going to have a great future in America is if we welcome and embrace immigrants – the DREAMers and all of them – because our ultimate goal is to help the DREAMers -- but get a path to citizenship for all 11 million, or however many undocumented, there are here." You can't accuse Sam of paranoia when that's literally what the other party wants.
Seb rank	Wed Mar 11 09:00:37 Rugian: No. NaMBLA is not talking about democrats policy. Because he is referring to the UK. And the Democrats are not a UK political party.
Sam Adams rank	Wed Mar 11 15:24:36 Pedo seb, you are using the exact same policy, merely lieing about your intent, and the damage you are causing.
murder rank	Sat Mar 14 04:02:20 So much for my 72 hour prediction.
jergul rank	Sat Mar 14 05:36:48 Targetting individuals is hard murder. It does not scale well at all unless you can pearl harbour them.
Allahuakbar rank	Sat Mar 14 14:01:08 "So much for my 72 hour prediction" But at least Khamenei is enjoying 72 virgins right now!
Seb rank	Sat Mar 14 14:30:37 NaMBLA: Nope. We don't have birth right citizenship, and the path for acquiring citizenship is not even available to many visa holders. We've been over this before.
williamthebastard rank	Sat Mar 14 15:11:58 rofl, csam, member of the the supreme race When pedo-csam sneers at poor people, the coded message he's sending that he wants everyone to decipher is "Hey, everyone, I want you all to think I'm rich! What the in-group thinks of me, the rugged individualist, is paramount!" When pedo-csam sneers at "low-IQ people", the coded message he's sending that he wants everyone to decipher is, "Hey, everyone, I want you all to think I have a reely, reely high IQ! What the in-group thinks of me, the rugged individualist, is paramount!" When pedo-csam sneers at gays, the coded message he's sending that he wants everyone to decipher is, "Hey, everyone, I want you all to think of me as big biceps, big dick, an uber-macho macho man! What the in-group thinks of me, the rugged individualist, is paramount!"
williamthebastard rank	Sat Mar 14 15:17:58 "there is nothing more important to me than acceptance by the in-group! I will spend my entire life slogging away in a cubicle owned by a billionaire who sees me as the poor rabble out there, pretending online to be a professional pilot, a meteorologist, etc etc etc," just to make enough money to be able to afford to look like Im a success to the neighbours! To just about be able to afford clothes brands that I must have to signify social economic class! To spend my entire life on what others think of me, until my life is gone! Because Im a rugged individualist!
Sam Adams rank	Sat Mar 14 19:09:56 So the reason you are poor and transgender is because you don't want to fit in? Lol take your meds. That can be fixed. Seb so you are importing millions and giving none of them citizenship? Lol liar.
Seb rank	Sat Mar 14 20:08:37 NaMBLA never lets facts get in the way of what he wants; whether that's clearly stated law on immigration, or clearly stated laws about the age of consent.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Mar 14 20:15:26 That seems evasive. you are trying to hide the fact you are importing votes. You know you are in fact doing so, but admitting it would somehow be worse than lieing about it, in your twisted buerocratic mind, when in fact the reverse is true.
williamthebastard rank	Sat Mar 14 20:23:13 Europe has approx 12% middle east and african immigrants. Almost 90% of Europe continues to consist of white Europeans. Meanwhile, the browning of the USA is here and within half the time that pedophilia-is-freedom-csam has spent shitting out his nazism on UP, his toothless, banjo playin’, $4 buddel of wuuhn-drinkn’, school-shootn’, pedophilic supreme beings will be a minority not just among under 18-year-olds as they are now, but in all age groups in the USA. Haha
Sam Adams rank	Sat Mar 14 20:24:31 ^admits that brown is bad. That's a step in the right direction.
williamthebastard rank	Sat Mar 14 20:26:03 ^ Makes up a complete fantasy and somehow manages to convince his inferior IQ brain to believe in the fantasy he just made up. It wonderful that you think its a catastrophe though, pedophile-protector Lol
williamthebastard rank	Sat Mar 14 20:28:14 Ill welcome any brown immigrants from the USA a million times before Ill accept anyone from the pedophile-protecting KKK death cult you belong to anywhere near me
Seb rank	Sat Mar 14 20:55:37 NaMBLA: As I said, already, no, because they don't get votes moron.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Mar 14 22:04:16 So no migrants ever become citizens in the UK? Not just a lie but a retarded lie.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Mar 14 22:10:38 Surge in migrant voters could swing vote in key UK constituencies This article is more than 11 years old Two seats may for first time be decided by migrants, who make up majority of voters, with parties warned not to ignore this electorate Almost 4 million voters – about one in 10 of the entire electorate in England and Wales - are predicted to have been born overseas come May and, for the first time, it is predicted that more than 50% of voters of the eligible electorate will have been born abroad in two seats. Lol from you own far left source too. https://ww.../surge-in-voters-born-overseas
Sam Adams rank	Sat Mar 14 22:12:23 Lol a retard and a liar.
williamthebastard rank	Sat Mar 14 22:18:08 Child rapists dont get UK citizenship, csam adams, they become Maga supporters and get protected by you, you lying little nazi pedo-fuck.
williamthebastard rank	Sat Mar 14 22:19:05 Or they become the leader of your party and the president of the USA.
williamthebastard rank	Sat Mar 14 22:20:40 csam adams lying about child rapists getting UK citizenship while worshipping the most infamous child rapist in history is as jaw-dropping as when he whines about racism.
Seb rank	Sat Mar 14 23:07:04 NaMBLA: The trouble with using a ten year old article is is that it misses several changes to migration laws since then. Also if you read the article, you'd notice that a lot of the migrants "born abroad" are in fact white commonwealth citizens. And of course a lot of the others are post war migrants who have been here decades, not recent migrants. Instead of focusing on people who have lived in the UK several decades and have naturalised to worry about current immigration (you will remember Shannon who used to post here), why not simply look at the fucking statute book that tells you the available paths for people migrating to the to now to get the vote? It's pretty straightforward.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Mar 14 23:12:45 "the available paths for people migrating to the to now to get the vote?" A post ago you said migrants couldn't vote. Now you post that there indeed are paths to voting. Hahaha retard.
Seb rank	Sat Mar 14 23:14:00 Also, the underlying report, by the migrants rights network - is entirely an extrapolation based on assumed naturalisation.
Seb rank	Sat Mar 14 23:18:45 NaMBLA: " post ago you said migrants couldn't vote." They can't. Citizens can. By definition a citizen isn't an immigrant. Hence the expression in your article "British citizen born abroad" rather than immigrant. But over the last 20 years it's become very hard for migrants to naturalise. The reason I said "look at the available paths" is because most visa types do not provide a path. Of course there are paths to citizenship other than acquisition via parents citizenship. What sort of fucked up country doesn't offer any path at all? Moron.
Seb rank	Sat Mar 14 23:19:03 It's like trying to explain quantum physics to a duck.
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