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Rugian
rank Sun Mar 15 22:54:22
Iran Officially Confirms Military Support From Russia And China In War Against the US

https://un...na-in-war-against-the-us-16882

So let me get this straight:

- Trump threatens to go nuclear on Spain and the UK because they won't sufficiently support his war against Iran.

- But Russia actively HELPS Iran and gets rewarded with sanctions relief.

Huh?

Rugian
rank Sun Mar 15 23:02:00
For comparison:

"US President Donald Trump has threatened to halt all trade with Spain, after the country barred the US from using its military bases as part of its operation in Iran.

In comments at the White House, Trump said Spain had been "terrible" and suggested "we're going to cut off all trade". "We don't want anything to do with Spain," he told reporters."

"I could tomorrow - or today, even better - stop everything having to do with Spain, all business having to do with Spain," Trump said on Tuesday.

Trump and Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent both claimed that the US can legally place an embargo on products imported from Spain.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8r1mzd8vygo

Rugian
rank Sun Mar 15 23:05:32
Notice the slight difference in rhetoric:

-----

Kilmeade asked Trump on Friday, "You think Putin is helping them?"

Trump replied, "I think he might be helping them a bit, yeah."

"I guess, and he probably thinks we're helping Ukraine, right?" Trump continued.

"Yeah, we're helping them also," Trump said, referring to Ukraine, which has been at war against Russia since being invaded in early 2022.

"So he [Putin] says that, and China would say the same thing, you know," Trump told Kilmeade.

"It's like, 'Hey, they do it, and we do it, in all fairness,'" Trump said. "They do it, and we do it."

Trump had a call with Putin on Monday.

U.S. special envoy Steve Witkoff told CNBC in an interview on Tuesday that during that call, "The Russians said they have not been sharing" intelligence with Iran.

"So, you know, we can take them at their word," Witkoff said that day. "Let's hope that they're not sharing."

https://ww...ump-iran-war-putin-russia.html

tumbleweed
rank Sun Mar 15 23:08:20
Trump says it's all fair since we've helped Ukraine, no reason to be upset one bit

(even though Putin calls Trump to get him to not give certain things to Ukraine)

Trump's never going to do shit to his boyfriend

jergul
rank Sun Mar 15 23:19:57
There is military assistance and there is military assistance. The cooperation scale is pretty low.

Habebe
rank Mon Mar 16 01:38:25
My initial theory....could change...

1. Trump wants Euros to need military equipment, which some will come from the US.

2. He knows Russia won't buy US weapons.

So, keep them needing the US MIC.

Bro is playing civilization 4 in real life.

Seb
rank Mon Mar 16 03:23:53
I have a theory too.

He's a venal senile fool who got lucky by tapping into the faith off greater fools which gives him enough power to achieve escape velocity in an American culture in late stage decadence/decline; because neither voters, media or politicians have the moral fibre or courage to shoulder the risk is standing up to him if the rest don't.

Sam Adams
rank Mon Mar 16 04:04:30
"the moral fibre or courage to shoulder the risk is standing up to him"

You won't even stand up to Iran. Lmfao.

jergul
rank Mon Mar 16 05:40:55
You are the bully here sammy. Bullies do not get to stand up to anyone.

jergul
rank Mon Mar 16 05:45:16
A bully with an abusive husband Israel. You could stand up to your husband if you dare.

Sam Adams
rank Mon Mar 16 06:49:57
Awwww the poor terrorists are being so bullied by the US and Israel

Lmfao.

Sam Adams
rank Mon Mar 16 06:52:09
And all those European socialists who want to destroy their own civilizations. It's so bad they feel *bullied*. So terrible. Oh no whatever will we do.

jergul
rank Mon Mar 16 07:16:38
You are trying to bully absolutely everyone. Except Israel. That bullies you.

On involvement in your war. Well, the established practice is to punish the aggressors. So, you sure you want our involvement. I think petroyuan sounds like a dandy concept myself.

jergul
rank Mon Mar 16 07:18:41
I am frankly tired of subsidizing the lifestyle to which you have become oh so accostomed. You should try the real world were deficits on your scale tank both the economy and the currency. See Argentina for what your country actually should look like.

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Rugian rank	Sun Mar 15 22:54:22 Iran Officially Confirms Military Support From Russia And China In War Against the US https://un...na-in-war-against-the-us-16882 So let me get this straight: - Trump threatens to go nuclear on Spain and the UK because they won't sufficiently support his war against Iran. - But Russia actively HELPS Iran and gets rewarded with sanctions relief. Huh?
Rugian rank	Sun Mar 15 23:02:00 For comparison: "US President Donald Trump has threatened to halt all trade with Spain, after the country barred the US from using its military bases as part of its operation in Iran. In comments at the White House, Trump said Spain had been "terrible" and suggested "we're going to cut off all trade". "We don't want anything to do with Spain," he told reporters." "I could tomorrow - or today, even better - stop everything having to do with Spain, all business having to do with Spain," Trump said on Tuesday. Trump and Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent both claimed that the US can legally place an embargo on products imported from Spain. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8r1mzd8vygo
Rugian rank	Sun Mar 15 23:05:32 Notice the slight difference in rhetoric: ----- Kilmeade asked Trump on Friday, "You think Putin is helping them?" Trump replied, "I think he might be helping them a bit, yeah." "I guess, and he probably thinks we're helping Ukraine, right?" Trump continued. "Yeah, we're helping them also," Trump said, referring to Ukraine, which has been at war against Russia since being invaded in early 2022. "So he [Putin] says that, and China would say the same thing, you know," Trump told Kilmeade. "It's like, 'Hey, they do it, and we do it, in all fairness,'" Trump said. "They do it, and we do it." Trump had a call with Putin on Monday. U.S. special envoy Steve Witkoff told CNBC in an interview on Tuesday that during that call, "The Russians said they have not been sharing" intelligence with Iran. "So, you know, we can take them at their word," Witkoff said that day. "Let's hope that they're not sharing." https://ww...ump-iran-war-putin-russia.html
tumbleweed rank	Sun Mar 15 23:08:20 Trump says it's all fair since we've helped Ukraine, no reason to be upset one bit (even though Putin calls Trump to get him to not give certain things to Ukraine) Trump's never going to do shit to his boyfriend
jergul rank	Sun Mar 15 23:19:57 There is military assistance and there is military assistance. The cooperation scale is pretty low.
Habebe rank	Mon Mar 16 01:38:25 My initial theory....could change... 1. Trump wants Euros to need military equipment, which some will come from the US. 2. He knows Russia won't buy US weapons. So, keep them needing the US MIC. Bro is playing civilization 4 in real life.
Seb rank	Mon Mar 16 03:23:53 I have a theory too. He's a venal senile fool who got lucky by tapping into the faith off greater fools which gives him enough power to achieve escape velocity in an American culture in late stage decadence/decline; because neither voters, media or politicians have the moral fibre or courage to shoulder the risk is standing up to him if the rest don't.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 16 04:04:30 "the moral fibre or courage to shoulder the risk is standing up to him" You won't even stand up to Iran. Lmfao.
jergul rank	Mon Mar 16 05:40:55 You are the bully here sammy. Bullies do not get to stand up to anyone.
jergul rank	Mon Mar 16 05:45:16 A bully with an abusive husband Israel. You could stand up to your husband if you dare.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 16 06:49:57 Awwww the poor terrorists are being so bullied by the US and Israel Lmfao.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Mar 16 06:52:09 *And all those European socialists who want to destroy their own civilizations. It's so bad they feel bullied. So terrible. Oh no whatever will we do.*
jergul rank	Mon Mar 16 07:16:38 You are trying to bully absolutely everyone. Except Israel. That bullies you. On involvement in your war. Well, the established practice is to punish the aggressors. So, you sure you want our involvement. I think petroyuan sounds like a dandy concept myself.
jergul rank	Mon Mar 16 07:18:41 I am frankly tired of subsidizing the lifestyle to which you have become oh so accostomed. You should try the real world were deficits on your scale tank both the economy and the currency. See Argentina for what your country actually should look like.
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