Utopia Talk / Politics / Hormuz

Habebe rank	Sat Apr 04 03:04:48 This is the important factor...I mean genuine regime change seems implausible. But, they are drastically weakened in regards to military equipment and capacity, but if we don't secure Hormuz this leaves them with massive leverage. This is my assessment at, correct me if I'm wrong.
Pillz rank	Sat Apr 04 03:16:39 You can't take the straight and hold it without remaining in a permanent state of war with iran for eternity.
murder rank	Sat Apr 04 04:49:14 That's why Trump wants Kharg Island. He wants to take it so he can trade it back in exchange for Iran's highly enriched uranium and the reopening of the strait. -
jergul rank	Sat Apr 04 10:58:45 Iran is slowly opening up the strait under a tariff regime for non-hostile shipping. So its not really about opening up the strait. It is about opening up the strait in a way that does not benefit Iran.
Average Ameriacn rank	Sat Apr 04 12:49:57 I think that the new Board of Peace will soon engage to reopen the Street of Hormus. Some very strong ntaions among it: Flag of AlbaniaAlbania Flag of ArgentinaArgentina Flag of ArmeniaArmenia Flag of AzerbaijanAzerbaijan Flag of BahrainBahrain Flag of BelarusBelarus Flag of BulgariaBulgaria Flag of CambodiaCambodia Flag of EgyptEgypt Flag of El SalvadorEl Salvador Flag of HungaryHungary Flag of IndonesiaIndonesia Flag of IsraelIsrael Flag of JordanJordan Flag of KazakhstanKazakhstan Flag of KosovoKosovo Flag of KuwaitKuwait Flag of MongoliaMongolia Flag of MoroccoMorocco Flag of PakistanPakistan Flag of ParaguayParaguay Flag of QatarQatar Flag of Saudi ArabiaSaudi Arabia Flag of TürkiyeTürkiye Flag of United Arab EmiratesUnited Arab Emirates Flag of UzbekistanUzbekistan Flag of Vietnam
Pillz rank	Sat Apr 04 14:26:24 The US's closest allies, Iraq and Al-Qae- I mean Syria.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Apr 04 18:28:36 Well we once were allied with civilized nations like Canada. But then they elected far left pussies so we had to ditch them.
williamthebastard rank	Sat Apr 04 18:50:38 Two concurrent headlines today April 4 (Reuters) - Iran attacked ​an Israel-affiliated ‌vessel with a ​drone ​in the Strait ⁠of Hormuz, ​setting ​the ship on fire French-owned container ship safely passes through Strait of Hormuz as Iran’s chokehold continues
Sam Adams rank	Sat Apr 04 19:09:42 Ahhh a reward for the filthy french siding with the russians and iranians. If only it was flammable we should probably set it on fire.
williamthebastard rank	Sat Apr 04 19:13:55 Shhh moronic little lump of coal and go put some more orange make up on
Sam Adams rank	Sat Apr 04 19:25:13 Lol don't be mad that we might set your dildo shipment of fire.
jergul rank	Sat Apr 04 19:47:32 Yepp, like I said earlier. Both the US and Iran have negative control of the strait. Both can close it anytime they like.
williamthebastard rank	Sat Apr 04 21:43:26 Pedo-csam's Trumpian expertise in all things reminds me of brain-dead fake martial arts on Youtube. He should devote his tactical expertise and high IQ to starting his own martial arts channel. "if sumwun truhs to robs u at guns poynt, jump in teh air so he dunt see were u ar. tehn grab teh gun wiht ur muoth and shake it. the crimnal wil go flyn in teh air." - Master Csam
Habebe rank	Sat Apr 04 22:39:18 Jergul, For Euros, the question is who is the lesser of two evils, as no one else really has the ability to control the straight.
Seb rank	Sat Apr 04 23:35:34 Habebe: For Europeans? Any objective analysis would say Iran is the lesser of the two evils. The US is threatening to invade European territories, Iran is not. The US has a history of economic extortion to force Europeans to change policy. Iran has to some extent, but the US already has a lot of leverage. Iran is more predictable and stable in policy outlook. Iran wants to destroy Israel, but it can't. So that's not really an issue at the moment. And exec if Iran does want to destroy Israel, this is less important to Europe than the US wanting to invade Greenland and re-normalise economic relations with Russia. Europe would like to peel Iran away from Russia, but the US fucked that strategy when it walked away from JCPOA.
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