Utopia Talk / Politics / The Pentagon threatened the Pope

Rugian rank	Thu Apr 09 02:43:45 Pentagon Threatened the Pope After He Criticized Trump Relations between the U.S. and the Catholic Church have not been the same since January, when senior U.S. defense officials shared an abrasive message with a Vatican official. Days after Pope Leo XIV delivered his State of the World speech, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Elbridge Colby summoned Cardinal Christophe Pierre, the Vatican’s U.S. representative, to a closed-door Pentagon meeting for a bitter lecture. “The United States,” Colby said, according to a blistering new report by The Free Press, “has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.” One U.S. official present at the meeting brought up the Avignon papacy, a period in the 14th century in which the French monarchy bent the Catholic Church into submission, ordering an attack on Pope Boniface VIII that led to his downfall and subsequent death and forcing the papacy to relocate from Rome to Avignon, a region inside France. The Trump administration had taken issue with the pope’s critique of its militaristic proclivities. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and other top Pentagon officials were particularly aggrieved by portions of Leo’s January 9 speech in which the pope argued that “a diplomacy that promotes dialogue and seeks consensus among all parties is being replaced by a diplomacy based on force,” and that “war is back in vogue, and a zeal for war is spreading.” The pope’s address was dissected line by line and interpreted as a hostile message toward the administration, reported Letters from Leo Substack writer Christopher Hale. It was difficult not to interpret Leo’s comments as an immediate commentary on Donald Trump’s second administration, which had at that point bombed Iran’s nuclear facilities, kidnapped Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro, fiercely advocated for the dissolution of NATO, and threatened America’s allies, including claiming that the U.S. would seize control of Canada and Greenland. But the blatant intimidation tactic is the first of its kind ever made by American officials to the Catholic Church. There are no public records of any previous meetings between Vatican and U.S. officials at the Pentagon, let alone an instance in which the world power suggested that it could force the Bishop of Rome into captivity. The Vatican was so alarmed by the Pentagon’s warning that Pope Leo cancelled his plans to visit the U.S. later in the year, reported Hale, who noted that “many in the Vatican saw the Pentagon’s reference to an Avignon papacy as a threat to use military force against the Holy See.” Tensions had not been mended by February, when the Holy See rejected the White House’s invitation to host Pope Leo—the religious order’s first U.S.-born pontiff—for America’s 250th anniversary in July. Instead, the Catholic leader has arranged to visit a very different locale on July 4: Lampedusa, a tiny island between Tunisia and Sicily where North African immigrants wash ashore by the thousands. “Robert Francis Prevost is too deliberate a man to have chosen that date by accident,” commented Hale. The White House has dismissed the entire account, writing in a statement to reporter Barbara Starr that “the Free Press’s characterization of the meeting is highly exaggerated and distorted.” “The meeting between Pentagon and Vatican officials was a respectful and reasonable discussion,” the Defense Department official continued. “We have nothing but the highest regard and welcome continued dialogue with the Holy See.” https://ne...d-pope-criticized-donald-trump
Sam Adams rank	Thu Apr 09 02:46:13 We are a good protestant nation anyway fuck the Vatican.
Rugian rank	Thu Apr 09 02:52:26 ^
Forwyn rank	Thu Apr 09 03:32:24 "Lampedusa, a tiny island between Tunisia and Sicily where North African immigrants wash ashore by the thousands." Lol what a faggot He will use weaponized kindness to cuck for MENA migrants
Average Ameriacn rank	Thu Apr 09 07:33:24 The pope wants to take away our guns, fuck him. It makes me very sad that Vance has become a catholic.
Paramount rank	Thu Apr 09 08:23:23 Why don’t Trump kidnap the Pope and run the Vatican himself? Maybe he will do a better job.
TheChildren rank	Thu Apr 09 08:40:28 da muerica posseses da miliatariez 2 do wuteva they want... in mickeydisnay land!
murder rank	Thu Apr 09 09:30:03 This is pretty funny considering that the Pope has essentially been silent about all of this administrations fuckery. This Pope has no balls. -
murder rank	Thu Apr 09 09:33:08 "weaponized kindness" Maybe the dumbest term ever conceived. -
williamthebastard rank	Thu Apr 09 09:57:41 "We are a good protestant nation anyway fuck the Vatican." You are a horrific death cult nation whose every single belief is the exact diametric opposite of Jesus' teachings - a mixture of Jim Jones, Heavens Gate and Nazism - that would make Jesus vomit, and whose desire to see all humanity perish in the rapture is perhaps the most dangerous religion the world has ever seen.
Sam Adams rank	Thu Apr 09 16:24:10 ”Maybe the dumbest term ever conceived." Not at all. It describes the suicidal empathy of the far left very well.
Rugian rank	Thu Apr 09 16:59:39 Yup, it's a valid term.
williamthebastard rank	Thu Apr 09 17:14:17 Imagine being so completely stupid and fucked up that you first claim to be a good follower of Jesus and immediately follow that up with declaring that empathy is suicidal rofl
Sam Adams rank	Thu Apr 09 17:17:38 Imagine being so completely stupid that you think I am a good follower of Jesus. Not to mention that christian culture evolved past their initial socialist upbringing about 1900 years ago.
williamthebastard rank	Thu Apr 09 17:25:03 Shhh, you zero-IQ, lying pedophile "Is the parable of the good samaritan about racism? The Parable of the Good Samaritan (found in the Gospel of Luke 10:25–37) is one of the clearest teachings of Jesus Christ that directly challenges racism, prejudice, and social division. The Racial Context (Crucial to Understanding the Story) To understand why this parable is so powerful, you have to grasp the deep racial and ethnic hostility between: Jews (the primary audience of Jesus) Samaritans (a neighboring group) This wasn’t mild dislike—it was intense, systemic prejudice: Jews viewed Samaritans as racially impure and religiously corrupt Samaritans were often excluded, insulted, and avoided The hostility had lasted centuries, tied to ancestry, religion, and identity (...) This models active anti-racism: not just avoiding hatred, but crossing boundaries to care. It exposes racism as morally inferior" etc etc etc
williamthebastard rank	Thu Apr 09 17:26:50 "is empathy at the core of jesus teachings? Very short answer please Yes—empathy is central to the teachings of Jesus Christ."
williamthebastard rank	Thu Apr 09 17:30:57 We can be sure beyond any doubt whatsoever that not one single Magat is going to Heaven, if the scriptures are true
Sam Adams rank	Thu Apr 09 17:51:14 3 off topic rants including 1 with ai. Lol take your meds.
williamthebastard rank	Thu Apr 09 18:15:55 “thretinin teh pope is gud and empahty is evil! U knoe cos Uh is a gud christerian!” - The voice of mental illness
murder rank	Thu Apr 09 18:45:45 "Not at all. It describes the suicidal empathy of the far left very well." The words "suicidal empathy" make sense when combined. It's a concept that can be debated. "Weaponized kindness" on the other hand is a combination of words that makes no sense. Kindness cannot be weaponized. -
Sam Adams rank	Thu Apr 09 18:46:59 Of course it can. Think of it as using your political capital to encourage, or force, suicidal empathy.
williamthebastard rank	Thu Apr 09 18:49:31 "Empathy is bad and attacking the pope is good" Thats what Satan would teach his disciples. Evangelist USA has defined the Bible as much or more than charles manson
williamthebastard rank	Thu Apr 09 18:49:56 * defiled the Bible
williamthebastard rank	Thu Apr 09 18:53:18 "The words "suicidal empathy" make sense when combined." Not for a nanoescond according to what the lying pedophile means by suicidal empathy. Suicidal empathy, according to him, is to accept the samaritan into your community
murder rank	Thu Apr 09 18:57:54 "Imagine being so completely stupid that you think I am a good follower of Jesus." Mediocre is still good. :oP -
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