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Rugian
rank Sun Apr 12 15:07:16
My man Orban has been in office for the last 16 years, and for 20 out of the last 30 years, but he might be in trouble.

JD Vance went to Hungary last week to stump for him.

Trump has formally "endorsed" Orban and promised huge financial aid for Hungary if they re-elect him.

And before any Europeans start whining about foreign election interference, the EU has spent the last decade trying to force Hungarians to vote against the government, putting the country under economic sanctions because they refused they import migrants were opposed to the whole LGBT mania.

In an ideal world, Trump's and Vance's behavior would be abominable. In this world, the EU and the left opened this door, Trump and Vance are merely playing the same game.

Rugian
rank Sun Apr 12 15:07:44
*and were opposed

Fuck the EU

Daemon
rank Sun Apr 12 16:51:17
This is your Hungary:

https://ww...bollah-pager-attack-by-israel/

Report: Hungary offered Iran intel on Hezbollah pager attack by Israel
Transcript of call two weeks after 2024 operation in Lebanon prompts concern among Western officials over Budapest’s ties to Islamic Republic, despite outward pro-Israel stance

Seb
rank Sun Apr 12 16:58:29
Rugian:

The leaks over the past week showing the depth of collusion between Russia and Orban's govt over a range of issues it's eye opening.

The US electoral interference on support of a Russian proxy hasn't gone unnoticed. We know Vance sees Russia as a natural ally and the EU as a threat. We know the US is colluding with Russia to undermine Europe. We see the looming cold war with the US.

Seb
rank Sun Apr 12 16:59:53
One day, god willing, the US population will liberate itself.

Until then, we need to recognise it has fallen to autocracy and barbarism.

Habebe
rank Sun Apr 12 17:17:14
No one sees the EU as a threat.

Seb
rank Sun Apr 12 18:09:25
Incorrect.

The US tech industry sees the EU as a threat as it prevents them from abusing their monopoly power even further than they do already.

Vance is of course one of Thiels protoges.

At this point the US is basically a handful of billionaires in a trench coat. The rest of you are either staff (Vance etc.), resources (Sam), or the product (you).

Pillz
rank Sun Apr 12 18:18:58
Rofl seb.

Rugian
rank Sun Apr 12 18:30:21
Seb

You really do live in a weird little bubble. Do you also still believe that the US would flat out lose a war with the EU if it came to that?

The timing of the alleged leaks is certainly not a coincidence. And anyway...if the EU wanted to complain about foreign election interference in Hungary, it shouldn't have repeatedly tried to fuck over Hungary's economy for having a government it didn't like.

At the end of tbe dat, the EU is a massive woke bully. And yes, a bureaucrat out of Brussels is as foreign to Budapest as POTUS is.

Daemon
rank Sun Apr 12 18:30:35
https://ce...led-ahead-hungary-fell-behind/
In 2025 economy of Hungary was worse than in Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Czechia

Corruption in Hungary is out of control (that's why both Trump and Putin like Orban)
https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2025
Corruption Perceptions Index
Rank
39 Czechia
52 Poland
61 Slovakia
70 Romania
84 Hungary

murder
rank Sun Apr 12 18:45:04

"The timing of the alleged leaks is certainly not a coincidence. And anyway...if the EU wanted to complain about foreign election interference in Hungary, it shouldn't have repeatedly tried to fuck over Hungary's economy for having a government it didn't like."

Membership in any club comes with requirements. That includes the EU and the US. If Hungary doesn't like the rules, they are free to leave just like the UK did.

That's more than Kansas could do if they didn't want to follow our requirements for membership.

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Rugian
rank Sun Apr 12 18:48:29
Murder

Most countries entered the EU with the understanding that it was primarily a trading bloc.

Not some sort of federal government that forces unrestricted migrant adoption and allowing fags to overrun society.

I struggle to understand what any of that has to do with a common currency and the elimination of customs fees.

murder
rank Sun Apr 12 18:56:11

So leave. The problem is they want the benefits without the obligations.

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jergul
rank Sun Apr 12 19:13:38
It barely matters. The alternate candidate is from the same party as Orban and the policies EU dislikes are electorate driven. There will be no major shifts.

tumbleweed
rank Sun Apr 12 19:16:20
Trump has patterned his destruction of democracy after Orban (& loves him) thus a tossing of Orban is hope for all (& would upset Trump... which is the most important thing)

jergul
rank Sun Apr 12 20:18:29
was*

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Rugian rank	Sun Apr 12 15:07:16 My man Orban has been in office for the last 16 years, and for 20 out of the last 30 years, but he might be in trouble. JD Vance went to Hungary last week to stump for him. Trump has formally "endorsed" Orban and promised huge financial aid for Hungary if they re-elect him. And before any Europeans start whining about foreign election interference, the EU has spent the last decade trying to force Hungarians to vote against the government, putting the country under economic sanctions because they refused they import migrants were opposed to the whole LGBT mania. In an ideal world, Trump's and Vance's behavior would be abominable. In this world, the EU and the left opened this door, Trump and Vance are merely playing the same game.
Rugian rank	Sun Apr 12 15:07:44 *and were opposed Fuck the EU
Daemon rank	Sun Apr 12 16:51:17 This is your Hungary: https://ww...bollah-pager-attack-by-israel/ Report: Hungary offered Iran intel on Hezbollah pager attack by Israel Transcript of call two weeks after 2024 operation in Lebanon prompts concern among Western officials over Budapest’s ties to Islamic Republic, despite outward pro-Israel stance
Seb rank	Sun Apr 12 16:58:29 Rugian: The leaks over the past week showing the depth of collusion between Russia and Orban's govt over a range of issues it's eye opening. The US electoral interference on support of a Russian proxy hasn't gone unnoticed. We know Vance sees Russia as a natural ally and the EU as a threat. We know the US is colluding with Russia to undermine Europe. We see the looming cold war with the US.
Seb rank	Sun Apr 12 16:59:53 One day, god willing, the US population will liberate itself. Until then, we need to recognise it has fallen to autocracy and barbarism.
Habebe rank	Sun Apr 12 17:17:14 No one sees the EU as a threat.
Seb rank	Sun Apr 12 18:09:25 Incorrect. The US tech industry sees the EU as a threat as it prevents them from abusing their monopoly power even further than they do already. Vance is of course one of Thiels protoges. At this point the US is basically a handful of billionaires in a trench coat. The rest of you are either staff (Vance etc.), resources (Sam), or the product (you).
Pillz rank	Sun Apr 12 18:18:58 Rofl seb.
Rugian rank	Sun Apr 12 18:30:21 Seb You really do live in a weird little bubble. Do you also still believe that the US would flat out lose a war with the EU if it came to that? The timing of the alleged leaks is certainly not a coincidence. And anyway...if the EU wanted to complain about foreign election interference in Hungary, it shouldn't have repeatedly tried to fuck over Hungary's economy for having a government it didn't like. At the end of tbe dat, the EU is a massive woke bully. And yes, a bureaucrat out of Brussels is as foreign to Budapest as POTUS is.
Daemon rank	Sun Apr 12 18:30:35 https://ce...led-ahead-hungary-fell-behind/ In 2025 economy of Hungary was worse than in Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Czechia Corruption in Hungary is out of control (that's why both Trump and Putin like Orban) https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2025 Corruption Perceptions Index Rank 39 Czechia 52 Poland 61 Slovakia 70 Romania 84 Hungary
murder rank	Sun Apr 12 18:45:04 "The timing of the alleged leaks is certainly not a coincidence. And anyway...if the EU wanted to complain about foreign election interference in Hungary, it shouldn't have repeatedly tried to fuck over Hungary's economy for having a government it didn't like." Membership in any club comes with requirements. That includes the EU and the US. If Hungary doesn't like the rules, they are free to leave just like the UK did. That's more than Kansas could do if they didn't want to follow our requirements for membership. -
Rugian rank	Sun Apr 12 18:48:29 Murder Most countries entered the EU with the understanding that it was primarily a trading bloc. Not some sort of federal government that forces unrestricted migrant adoption and allowing fags to overrun society. I struggle to understand what any of that has to do with a common currency and the elimination of customs fees.
murder rank	Sun Apr 12 18:56:11 So leave. The problem is they want the benefits without the obligations. -
jergul rank	Sun Apr 12 19:13:38 It barely matters. The alternate candidate is from the same party as Orban and the policies EU dislikes are electorate driven. There will be no major shifts.
tumbleweed rank	Sun Apr 12 19:16:20 Trump has patterned his destruction of democracy after Orban (& loves him) thus a tossing of Orban is hope for all (& would upset Trump... which is the most important thing)
jergul rank	Sun Apr 12 20:18:29 was*
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