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Habebe
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Sun Apr 12 17:25:00
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I'm reminded of the Arab (Saudi?) Who spoke of more extremism coming from the west when people feel less oppurtunity.
Rugian
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Sun Apr 12 17:49:49
Hang him. Expedited trial, no appeals. Piece of shit.
Seb
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Sun Apr 12 18:12:47
Doesn't sound like he's against capitalism so much as rampant exploitation.

Remind me, what happened in Boston December 1773?

murder
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Sun Apr 12 18:14:46

Chamel Abdulkarim

Sounds like more extremism coming from the east.

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murder
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Sun Apr 12 18:19:48

"All you had to do was pay us enough to live. Pay us more of the value WE bring. Not corporate. Didn’t see the shareholders picking up a shift."

He's not wrong.

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Rugian
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Sun Apr 12 18:24:09
"Remind me, what happened in Boston December 1773?"

The British government got a bit too cute with its attempts to coax the colonials into paying taxes imposed from London by forcing them to buy EIC tea, and so said tea got thrown into the harbor.

In response, Parliament ordered the Port of Boston be shut down, dissolved the Massachusetts provincial government, sent a military general backed with Army troops to impose martial law, and effectively gave British officials carte blanche to commit abuses against the local citizenry by taking away the colony's ability to try them for crimes committed.

Then the Army tried to seize our weappns. So we justifiably started shooting redcoats and declared our independence. Fuck the King.

What does that have to do with the burning of a warehouse though?
Habebe
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Sun Apr 12 18:30:10
The current US job market is absolutely exploitative.
Rugian
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Sun Apr 12 18:46:08
Sure. And let's stipulate that being a warehouse worker kind of sucks, and while the pay is decent (as far as blue-collar work goes) it's crumbs compared to what the companies are making.

None of that justifies the destruction of $650,000,000 worth of property.
Habebe
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Sun Apr 12 18:47:14
Not condoning behaviour and understanding the frustration that led to it can both be done.
murder
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Sun Apr 12 18:50:43

"None of that justifies the destruction of $650,000,000 worth of property."

Obviously. Especially since it put lives at risk.

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murder
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Sun Apr 12 18:52:23

"What does that have to do with the burning of a warehouse though?"

I think Seb's point is that when people feel that they are being exploited, they tend to act out.

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Rugian
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Sun Apr 12 18:57:52
Not similar circumstances.

The British government tried to arbitrarily change the working relationship with its colonies that had been in place for almost 200 years.

This guy was butthurt because he thought his pay was not commensurate with his labor

One of those situations could have been resolved by the guy finding another job. The other could only be resolved by having Mel Gibson axe some motherfucking lobsterbacks.
Rugian
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Sun Apr 12 19:04:46
Seb is also mischaracterizing the Boston Tea Party and who made the disproportionate action in that event.

The Americans dumped some tea in a harbor. The British had a meltdown and all but forced the Americans into war by going straight to Defcon 1 with their response.

One of the biggest fails in modern history. Don't piss off your uncontrollable colonies by shitting all over them.
Forwyn
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Sun Apr 12 20:34:29
Dude was getting paid almost $30/hr and, according to his co-workers, couldn't be bothered to show up on time or work hard.

Not all lazy pieces of shit are leftists, but every leftist is a lazy piece of shit.

This one is also an invader. Bullet.
Sam Adams
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Sun Apr 12 20:53:22
Seems like a giant building full of paper should have better firefighting.
Rugian
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Sun Apr 12 21:05:07
That's what I was thinking. 2020-vintage institutional-grade building buit by reputable industrial developers (REDA and Clarion) with modern ESFR fire sprinklers...

...something went seriously wrong here with the FLS system.
Seb
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Sun Apr 12 21:56:03
Rugian:

Ah, but being taxed does?

"The British had a meltdown and all but forced the Americans into war by going straight to Defcon 1 with their response."

You called for the guy to get hanged.

Murder:

I was pointing out violent property destruction as a form of protest is literally part of your founding and celebrated as such.

Rugian:
"something went seriously wrong here with the FLS system"

You think maybe the company that doesn't pay its staff a living wage might also have skimped on investing in other stuff too?

Habebe
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Sun Apr 12 22:00:12
I would think we have building code regulations, you don't always have much of a choice in that stuff if you wish to stay in business.
Forwyn
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Sun Apr 12 22:18:02
"doesn't pay its staff a living wage"

lmao low-info Seb
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