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williamthebastard
rank Wed Apr 15 08:37:01
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Europe Is Accelerating a NATO Fallback Plan in Case Trump Pulls Out
The Continent is drawing up a contingency for greater European involvement as tensions rise over Iran war

A fallback plan to ensure Europe can defend itself using NATO’s existing military structures if the U.S. departs is gaining traction after getting buy-in from Germany, a long-term opponent of a go-it-alone approach.

The officials working on the plans, which some officials are referring to as “European NATO,” are seeking to get more Europeans into the alliance’s command-and-control roles and supplement U.S. military assets with their own.

tumbleweed
rank Wed Apr 15 08:46:13
probably wise as certainly Trump is a worthless 'ally' for his term, but Congress passed a law that the president can't withdraw on his own (done specifically because of idiot boy)

& i don't think this is a thing he can sway the 'party' into accepting... his bullshit claims of NATO never being there for us is one of his several bullshit comments that you don't see the 'party' broadly repeating

murder
rank Wed Apr 15 08:48:09

Trump is the type that says that he's going to pull out and then doesn't.

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Habebe
rank Wed Apr 15 15:00:59
The problem with this is Europe assumes it has a military.

All jokes aside, Europe has pieces of a military.

obaminated
rank Wed Apr 15 18:38:18
The purpose of nato was to counter the ussr. The ussr doesn't exist. Leaving nato wouldn't be that terrible for us. It isn't like western Europe is gonna run into Russian arms.

williamthebastard
rank Wed Apr 15 20:08:21
The day the US picks a fight for the first time with modern armies that arent 1% the size of the US military or smaller, as is always the case, will be a really bad day for the US. Because after a week, the world's media will be full of the same news that the world recently realized about Russia: Highly overrated - while US media will be full of articles about people tearing their hair out at various failures.
That'll demoralize the entire country.

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williamthebastard rank	Wed Apr 15 08:37:01 http://www...lans-3a423233?mod=hp_lead_pos1 Europe Is Accelerating a NATO Fallback Plan in Case Trump Pulls Out The Continent is drawing up a contingency for greater European involvement as tensions rise over Iran war A fallback plan to ensure Europe can defend itself using NATO’s existing military structures if the U.S. departs is gaining traction after getting buy-in from Germany, a long-term opponent of a go-it-alone approach. The officials working on the plans, which some officials are referring to as “European NATO,” are seeking to get more Europeans into the alliance’s command-and-control roles and supplement U.S. military assets with their own.
tumbleweed rank	Wed Apr 15 08:46:13 probably wise as certainly Trump is a worthless 'ally' for his term, but Congress passed a law that the president can't withdraw on his own (done specifically because of idiot boy) & i don't think this is a thing he can sway the 'party' into accepting... his bullshit claims of NATO never being there for us is one of his several bullshit comments that you don't see the 'party' broadly repeating
murder rank	Wed Apr 15 08:48:09 Trump is the type that says that he's going to pull out and then doesn't. -
Habebe rank	Wed Apr 15 15:00:59 The problem with this is Europe assumes it has a military. All jokes aside, Europe has pieces of a military.
obaminated rank	Wed Apr 15 18:38:18 The purpose of nato was to counter the ussr. The ussr doesn't exist. Leaving nato wouldn't be that terrible for us. It isn't like western Europe is gonna run into Russian arms.
williamthebastard rank	Wed Apr 15 20:08:21 The day the US picks a fight for the first time with modern armies that arent 1% the size of the US military or smaller, as is always the case, will be a really bad day for the US. Because after a week, the world's media will be full of the same news that the world recently realized about Russia: Highly overrated - while US media will be full of articles about people tearing their hair out at various failures. That'll demoralize the entire country.
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