Utopia Talk / Politics / US bases far more damage than reported

williamthebastard rank	Mon Apr 27 06:21:44 American military bases and other equipment in the Persian Gulf region suffered extensive damage from Iranian strikes that is far worse than publicly acknowledged http://www...ases-publicly-known-rcna331853
Sam Adams rank	Mon Apr 27 07:17:49 Our bases must be so damaged because a journalist and a european transgender say so. Oh wait we all have access to satellite imagery these days and the damage is clearly minor. Lol oops
Im better then you rank	Mon Apr 27 08:19:41 Yes cause Trump is honest to a fault.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Apr 27 08:28:10 Trump might not know what a satellite is so the two are entirely unconnected
Average Ameriacn rank	Mon Apr 27 08:30:14 It is sad that they hit our bases but if we had not disarmed them then they would have attacked our cities later this year.
williamthebastard rank	Mon Apr 27 10:36:50 Damage to US military infrastructure in the Middle East is far greater than Washington has acknowledged so far, according to a major investigation published Saturday by CBS. According to the investigation, the Iranian regime responded quickly after the Trump administration attacked on Feb. 28, hitting dozens of targets at US military bases in seven Middle Eastern countries. The strikes damaged warehouses, command headquarters, aircraft hangars, satellite communications infrastructure, runways, advanced radar systems and dozens of aircraft, according to US officials and an assessment by the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank in Washington, DC. The report also paints a particularly damaging picture for US air defense systems: An outdated F-5 fighter jet from the Iranian Air Force managed to slip past all air defenses and strike a US military base in Kuwait. It was the first successful strike by a foreign fighter jet on US forces in decades. The US bases that were attacked serve thousands of US troops, and in some cases their families, although most were evacuated in the days and hours before the US and Israel went to war with Iran. The Pentagon has not publicly detailed the extent of the damage to US military bases, or, according to US officials, provided it to members of Congress. Last month, the administration asked private satellite companies, including Planet Labs, to hide images of the bases from the public, making it harder to assess the extent of the destruction, according to US officials and experts, as well as a statement Planet Labs sent to its customers. The administration's request remains in effect, a Planet Labs spokesman said. A White House spokesman declined to comment.
williamthebastard rank	Mon Apr 27 10:40:47 "Last month, the administration asked private satellite companies, including Planet Labs, to hide images of the bases from the public" "Oh waits we all has teh akssess to satelite imageringery these days and teh damidg is clrrrrly minrrrr. Go reed Lara Loomers X padge if yous wants teh trueth!!" - A Lying Pedophile
Habebe rank	Mon Apr 27 14:57:02 So what is a measurable metric of the damage? Can we see some satellite images?
Rugian rank	Mon Apr 27 15:00:12 For the record, the estimate of damages was $5 billion. Hardly nothing...but at the same time, that isn't even 1% of the US' annual military spending. Also...NBC articles are behind a paywall now? ROFL. Yeah, as if anyone would ever pay for that trash.
williamthebastard rank	Mon Apr 27 15:04:37 "For the record, the estimate of damages was $5 billion." to repair buildings. Destroyed equipment was not included in that - as you know but kept quiet about
williamthebastard rank	Mon Apr 27 15:05:40 "The destruction spans across several countries in the Middle East and could cost up to $5 billion to repair. The projected price tag does not include fixes to radar systems, weapons systems, aircraft and other equipment that were either impaired or rendered unsalvageable as a result of Iranian strikes, the outlet reported."
Average Ameriacn rank	Mon Apr 27 15:17:40 iran will pay for that, it will be in the deal, trust the deal maker.
williamthebastard rank	Mon Apr 27 15:21:20 The price tag is largely irrelevant from a strategic and tactical perspective. In bombing "runways, warehouses and buildings" on military bases, their objective wasnt to bomb the most expensive stuff they could find
Rugian rank	Mon Apr 27 15:24:38 Well the cost of aircraft etc. tends to run in the millions as opposed to billions...so how much higher do you want to go with the price tag? $6 billion?
williamthebastard rank	Mon Apr 27 15:26:32 military runways are dead cheap to build but vital to not lose in a live war.
jergul rank	Mon Apr 27 15:33:51 It does not matter at all. Just another straw on the camels back until it tires of carrying you. On the ground though. Some of the bases will never be reopened and the forced evacuation of bases shows significant hardening is required. Shall we say a 10% increase in overall base costs for say forever. 6-10 billion more a year for the forceable future. Base maintenance etc on the budget will be just shy of 70 billion.
jergul rank	Mon Apr 27 15:34:14 Per year*
murder rank	Mon Apr 27 16:00:29 "... and the forced evacuation of bases shows significant hardening is required." Forced evacuation proves that those bases are pointless and not viable. The purpose of those bases was to deter and attack Iran. -
Sam Adams rank	Mon Apr 27 16:08:42 ”Last month, the administration asked private satellite companies, including Planet Labs, to hide images of the bases from the public"" Ahhh yes ... Too bad most of the damage in these reports occured before the ban. And there are some satellite image providers still sending images. Lol oops.
Sam Adams rank	Mon Apr 27 16:09:44 And along comes jergul math. All the bases are evacuated!!!! the US isn't there!!! It's been chased away!!!
jergul rank	Mon Apr 27 16:47:27 The numbers are fine. There is no point overstating/understating and never is. The US will keep on borrowing it and lowering taxes until the Ponzischeme finally says pop with a sharp wealth reduction and currency realigment. A few 100d billion or trillion do not matter.
Habebe rank	Mon Apr 27 17:34:03 WTB, So what is the extent of the damages, I didnt pay to read. Meh, I may just ask claude.
Habebe rank	Mon Apr 27 17:36:57 Based on the recent 2026 US-Israel-Iran war (Operation Epic Fury, February 28 - April 7 ceasefire), here's a comparison of damages: Iran - Severe Damage Human Casualties: 3,636 deaths documented by HRANA, including 1,701 civilians, 1,221 military personnel (Wikipedia) Over 26,500 people injured, including at least 4,000 women and 1,621 children (Al Jazeera) Victims aged between eight months and 88 years, including seven infants, 376 children and 496 women killed (Al Jazeera) Infrastructure: 307 health, medical, and emergency care facilities damaged (Center for American Progress) 6,668 civilian units targeted, including 5,535 residential units, 1,041 commercial units, 14 medical centers, 65 schools (Wikipedia) Nuclear facilities bombed (extent unknown as IAEA barred from inspections) Leadership & Strategic: Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei assassinated in decapitation strike on Day 1 (Wikipedia) Economic Devastation: Food inflation surged to 105%, bread and cereals increased 140%, red meat and poultry rose 135% (Wikipedia) Currency collapse requiring 10 million rial notes United States - Limited Damage Human Casualties: At least 15 U.S. troops killed in combat (The Intercept) 13 US KIA, 400 wounded (OpenWar) (another source cites more than 520 U.S. personnel injured (The Intercept) ) One service member died of a health-related incident in Kuwait (Al Jazeera) Equipment: USS Gerald R. Ford carrier damaged by fire (non-combat) Six crew members killed when a US refuelling aircraft crashed in western Iraq (Al Jazeera) Economic: $35 billion operational cost estimated (OpenWar) The Bottom Line Iran suffered catastrophic damage with ~100x more deaths than the US, massive civilian casualties, destroyed infrastructure, and economic collapse. The US sustained relatively limited casualties typical of modern asymmetric warfare where air power dominates. The conflict demonstrated the vast military capability gap between the forces.
Habebe rank	Mon Apr 27 17:39:58 Now with equipment losses factored in, here's the updated comparison: United States - Updated with Equipment Costs Human Casualties (same as before): 13-15 troops killed in combat 290-520+ wounded Equipment Losses: US lost one F-35 Lightning II, one A-10 Thunderbolt II, one E-3 Sentry AWACS, 17 MQ-9 Reaper drones (EURASIAN TIMES) , plus: 24 MQ-9 Reapers total lost by April 9 (Wikipedia) One MQ-4C Triton crashed, valued at $238 million (Wikipedia) Three F-15E Strike Eagles shot down by friendly fire, plus one additional F-15E shot down by Iran (Wikipedia) Two MC-130J aircraft became stuck at makeshift landing site and were destroyed by US forces (Middle East Monitor) One E-3G Sentry AWACS destroyed at Prince Sultan Air Base, one KC-135 destroyed, five KC-135 Stratotankers damaged on ground (The Defense News) Multiple radar domes destroyed at Al-Jufair base in Bahrain housing AN/GSC-52B SATCOM systems (EURASIAN TIMES) Financial Impact: Equipment losses in first three weeks estimated at $1.4 billion to $2.9 billion (Middle East Monitor) (Anadolu Ajansı) Total campaign cost estimated between $22.3 billion and $31 billion over five weeks, approximately $500 million per day (The Irish Times) Pentagon plans to replace damaged systems through a proposed $200 billion supplemental spending request (Anadolu Ajansı) Key Strategic Concern Iran's strategy aims to create a "war of attrition" to increase costs for the US, specifically targeting radar and communication systems, refueling aircraft, and high-value assets like AWACS (EURASIAN TIMES) . Analysts worry these losses deplete capabilities needed for potential conflict with China. Bottom Line While Iran suffered ~100x more deaths and catastrophic infrastructure damage, the US sustained significant strategic equipment losses totaling $1.4-2.9 billion, with total war costs reaching $30+ billion. The loss of sophisticated radar systems, AWACS, and advanced drones represents a more concerning long-term impact than the dollar figures suggest—these are irreplaceable assets needed for Indo-Pacific deterrence.
Seb rank	Mon Apr 27 18:01:04 Murder: Well, convince the gulf states they were being protected so they continue to prop up the petro-dollar system.
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