Utopia Talk / Politics / Did the US cause WWII?

williamthebastard rank	Sat Jun 06 13:42:17 "Professor AI: Was the wall street crash one of the most important causes of WWII? Yes—but in an indirect, “enabling conditions” sense rather than as a single dominant cause. The Wall Street Crash of 1929 triggered the Great Depression, which then had major political consequences in Europe. The economic collapse led to mass unemployment, poverty, and instability in several countries—especially Germany, where the fragile post–World War I economy was heavily dependent on American loans. When those loans dried up after 1929, the crisis became severe. That environment made extremist political movements much more attractive. In Germany, for example, economic desperation helped the Nazi Party gain mass support by promising jobs, stability, and national recovery. So in that sense, the crash was a key indirect catalyst for the conditions that allowed the rise of Nazism, which is central to the outbreak of the World War II.
Seb rank	Sat Jun 06 13:59:37 Bigger issue was undermining the league of nations and helping Italy evade sanctions. Just like it is now with Russia.
williamthebastard rank	Sat Jun 06 14:10:28 I suppose we should all be demanding reparations from the US
TheChildren rank	Sat Jun 06 15:18:21 yes they is.
Rugian rank	Sat Jun 06 15:21:42 do europeans accept responsibility for starting wwii? Yes, Europeans—and specifically Germans—universally accept responsibility for starting World War II. This historical accountability is deeply embedded in European education, politics, and culture. The broad consensus involves several key perspectives: Germany’s Acceptance: Modern Germany takes official responsibility for initiating the war and perpetrating the Holocaust. German leadership and society view acknowledging this history as a fundamental civic and moral duty. The Role of the Allies: While Germany is viewed as the primary aggressor, modern historians and Europeans also acknowledge the complex pre-war environment. This includes the punitive terms of the Treaty of Versailles following World War I, which created economic desperation, and the failed pre-war policy of appeasement. The Soviet Union: Historical consensus recognizes that the war's outbreak was directly catalyzed by the 1939 Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, in which Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union agreed to divide Poland and non-aggression spheres, essentially clearing the path for the invasion of Poland. Broader Axis Complicity: Other European fascist regimes (such as Italy under Mussolini) are also recognized for their aggressive imperial campaigns that contributed to the global conflict.
Rugian rank	Sat Jun 06 15:37:42 Happy D-Day by the way. Aka the US showing up to save your shithole continent from itself.
williamthebastard rank	Sat Jun 06 16:17:47 Thats not counting, of course, the historical fact that Hitler was inspired by the USA and the Nazis went to the US to study Jim Crow laws and tactics
Rugian rank	Sat Jun 06 16:27:50 Hitler's political views were formed during three periods; namely (1) his years as an impoverished young man in Vienna and Munich prior to the First World War, during which time he turned to nationalist-oriented political pamphlets and antisemitic newspapers out of distrust for mainstream newspapers and political parties; (2) the closing months of the war when the German Empire lost, and when Hitler claimed to have developed his extreme nationalism and allegedly pledged to "save" Germany from both external and internal enemies, who in his view had betrayed it (stab in the back myth); (3) and the 1920s, during which his early political career began and he wrote his autobiographical political manifesto Mein Kampf (lit. 'My Struggle'). Hitler formally renounced his Austrian citizenship on 7 April 1925, but did not acquire German citizenship until almost seven years later in 1932, thereby allowing him to run for public office.[2] Hitler was influenced by Benito Mussolini, who was appointed Prime Minister of Italy on 31 October 1922 after his March on Rome.[b] Hitler in many ways epitomised "the force of personality in political life" as described by historian Friedrich Meinecke.[4] Hitler was essential to the political appeal and development of Nazism in Germany. So important were Hitler's views that they immediately affected the political policies of Nazi Germany. He asserted the Führerprinzip ('leader principle'), which advocated the absolute obedience of all subordinates to their superiors. Correspondingly, Hitler viewed himself at the top of both the party and government in this structure.[5] Hitler firmly believed that the force of "will" was decisive in determining the political course for a nation and rationalised his actions accordingly. Given that Hitler was appointed "leader of the German Reich for life", he "embodied the supreme power of the state and, as the delegate of the German people"; it was his role to determine the "outward form and structure of the Reich".[6] To that end, Hitler's political motivation consisted of an ideology that combined traditional German and Austrian antisemitism with an intellectualised racial doctrine resting on an admixture of elements of social Darwinism and the ideas—mostly obtained second-hand and only partially understood—of philosophers Friedrich Nietzsche, Arthur Schopenhauer, Georges Sorel; racialist thinkers Hans F. K. Günther, Houston Stewart Chamberlain, Arthur de Gobineau, and Madison Grant as well as other figures like Paul de Lagarde, Richard Wagner, Alfred Ploetz, among others.[7]
Rugian rank	Sat Jun 06 16:30:02 "Social Darwinism," of course, was a British innovation. Maybe step away from the AI slop for a bit WTB. It's clearly frying your (already warped) mind.
williamthebastard rank	Sat Jun 06 16:31:41 ^Triggered
Rugian rank	Sat Jun 06 16:35:48 Not really. Copy-pasting a wikipedia extract is about the lowest amount of effort I could put into a post.
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