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Utopia Talk / Politics / Germans scrap F126 destroyer

murder
rank Wed Jun 24 12:41:05
Germany is scrapping plans to build 6 destroyer sized F126 "frigates" and will instead build 8 of the much smaller F128 frigates.

For comparison, the F126 was to be larger than the US Arleigh Burke class destroyer ... while the F128 is smaller than the National Security Coast Guard cutter than the US is fashioning into a laughably inadequate frigate.

The F128 is ~ 1/3 the size of the F126.

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Paramount
rank Wed Jun 24 16:36:49
Money problems?

Inferiority complex? Afraid to rival the daddy US?

jergul
rank Wed Jun 24 16:55:23
According to wiki? Stopgap. F128 give more time for developers to sort out issues with th F126

jergul
rank Wed Jun 24 16:57:25
Or looking elsewhere on wiki:

"On 24 June 2026 Bundeswehr officially announced that the project is cancelled due to "enormous cost increases and incalculable risks". [52] The planned six F126 frigates will be replaced by 8 MEKO A-200-DEU frigates. The Ministry of Defense stated that the general contractor, Damen Schelde Naval Shipbuilding (DSNS) could not guarantee the scheduling and financial parameters for the F126 project.[53]"

Sam Adams
rank Wed Jun 24 18:21:52
Lol.

"Eurip can take care of itself durrr"

Sebs and nevilles

jergul
rank Wed Jun 24 19:08:27
Sammy
You have failed on ship designs too in a similar way.

Sam Adams
rank Wed Jun 24 20:37:16
Durrrrrr

Lol euroclowns.

Just buy/license burkes like Japan and south Korea. You'll get a vastly superior ship for vastly less money, since you know 101 have already been built or are under construction.

And Neville they can... You know... Fight submarines...

Lol

Seb
rank Wed Jun 24 21:31:43
It had become outdated - they wanted an ASW specialist that could also act as a multirole frigate that could be deployed for up to two years without maintenance in port (crew would rotate).

Going for smaller ASW specialists makes more sense with the focus shifting to the Baltics, North sea and North Atlantic; and technology shifting to unmanned sloops and drones

Seb
rank Wed Jun 24 21:33:22
Burkes have bloated manpower requirements and aren't as good at ASW as a dedicated platform.

Seb
rank Wed Jun 24 21:36:24
There's about 33 MEKO 200s with various operators also. Hardly like they've done a constellation class.

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murder rank	Wed Jun 24 12:41:05 Germany is scrapping plans to build 6 destroyer sized F126 "frigates" and will instead build 8 of the much smaller F128 frigates. For comparison, the F126 was to be larger than the US Arleigh Burke class destroyer ... while the F128 is smaller than the National Security Coast Guard cutter than the US is fashioning into a laughably inadequate frigate. The F128 is ~ 1/3 the size of the F126. -
Paramount rank	Wed Jun 24 16:36:49 Money problems? Inferiority complex? Afraid to rival the daddy US?
jergul rank	Wed Jun 24 16:55:23 According to wiki? Stopgap. F128 give more time for developers to sort out issues with th F126
jergul rank	Wed Jun 24 16:57:25 Or looking elsewhere on wiki: "On 24 June 2026 Bundeswehr officially announced that the project is cancelled due to "enormous cost increases and incalculable risks". [52] The planned six F126 frigates will be replaced by 8 MEKO A-200-DEU frigates. The Ministry of Defense stated that the general contractor, Damen Schelde Naval Shipbuilding (DSNS) could not guarantee the scheduling and financial parameters for the F126 project.[53]"
Sam Adams rank	Wed Jun 24 18:21:52 Lol. "Eurip can take care of itself durrr" Sebs and nevilles
jergul rank	Wed Jun 24 19:08:27 Sammy You have failed on ship designs too in a similar way.
Sam Adams rank	Wed Jun 24 20:37:16 Durrrrrr Lol euroclowns. Just buy/license burkes like Japan and south Korea. You'll get a vastly superior ship for vastly less money, since you know 101 have already been built or are under construction. And Neville they can... You know... Fight submarines... Lol
Seb rank	Wed Jun 24 21:31:43 It had become outdated - they wanted an ASW specialist that could also act as a multirole frigate that could be deployed for up to two years without maintenance in port (crew would rotate). Going for smaller ASW specialists makes more sense with the focus shifting to the Baltics, North sea and North Atlantic; and technology shifting to unmanned sloops and drones
Seb rank	Wed Jun 24 21:33:22 Burkes have bloated manpower requirements and aren't as good at ASW as a dedicated platform.
Seb rank	Wed Jun 24 21:36:24 There's about 33 MEKO 200s with various operators also. Hardly like they've done a constellation class.
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