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Sam Adams
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Sun Aug 09 02:46:31
For neutering your economies. You really saved us all from that evil gwobal warming.

https://pb...XUAEFJ1o?format=png&name=small

Lmao
Paramount
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Sun Aug 09 08:34:02
That graph actually shows that Europe is on the right path, that Europe is in the lead, in the struggle to save the planet, humanity, and our pets. Thanks :)
Paramount
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Sun Aug 09 08:40:58
But it all depends on what we want to do. Maybe we shouldn't save the planet and our lives, maybe it's better to continue as before.
jergul
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Sun Aug 09 09:12:38
Electricity is superior to combustion (defined here as exothermic chemical reactions involving carbon and oxygen) energy. Everyone knows that.

Also,

https://en..._energy_consumption_per_capita

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-co-emissions

Do you want to see the consumption based CO2 emissions (if you buy a smartphone from China, you get the CO2 cost of its production and transport) by country too? Rofl.
Sam Adams
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Sun Aug 09 11:16:00
If only those charts were the result of increasing nuclear power, rather than decreasing industrialization, you might have a point.

"Electricity is superior to combustion"

That depends on the application. In a car? Usually yes. In a jet? Definitely not.
Sam Adams
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Sun Aug 09 11:17:07
Anyway, all the work you have done to hobble your lifestyles(you guys struggle with cars and AC)... China has wasted your entire effort every 4 months.
jergul
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Sun Aug 09 11:28:17
Wrong. Dummy does not know new nuclear is ludicrously expensive. Wrong 2. Dummy is conflating storage with engine efficiency. And forgetting stuff. Dementia would certainly explain dummy's downward trend. Like how spaceX uses electricity in space because if pwns thermo-chemical reactions.
jergul
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Sun Aug 09 11:31:13
He obviously does not understand climate change agreements. Yes, the factory of the world CO2 emissions are increasing as they make stuff for us. It is also the country contributing by far to global green energy of all types. It can even scale nuclear sufficiently to mass produce nuclear power plants at competitive electricity prices.
williamthebastard
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Sun Aug 09 11:33:53
You can correct someone who is unintentionally wrong.
You can never correct someone who is intentionally lying.
Its like trying to debate with a murderer who will lie about anything to avoid the chair and thinking you might get a serious debate out of him.
jergul
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Sun Aug 09 11:36:57
https://ww...ce-in-selected-regions-h1-2025
jergul
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Sun Aug 09 11:38:19
Lol, the US was the only area that decreased nuclear power last year. Pwned!
jergul
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Sun Aug 09 11:39:50
Dummy is just a sociopath. At least his internet persona is. Its not so much lying as the truth not mattering at all. See his role model in the wh for details.
Sam Adams
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Sun Aug 09 12:01:42
"Like how spaceX uses electricity in space because if pwns thermo-chemical reactions.”

Don't ask about how they got out of the atmosphere and up to orbital velocity. Lol. Don't get me wrong the electrical thruster is obviously superior for unmanned burns at orbital V and above but you need the massive thrust of a chemical motor to get there.

Anyway I just find it hilarious that you weenies have been bitching and moaning about global warming forever and all the decarbonizing work your continent has ever done is replaced by China every 4 months.
jergul
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Sun Aug 09 12:13:09
Dummy, carbon emissions is not a white privilege. That was agreed on at Kyoto and Paris.

China is still nowhere near the US or EU accumulated emission levels, not even accounting for per capita. It has tons of margin still and is on track to meeting its international commitments.

Its emissions peaked in early 2024, so you are factually wrong again as always.

"The latest analysis shows China’s CO2 emissions have now been flat or falling for 21 months, starting in March 2024. This trend continued in the final quarter of 2025, when emissions fell by 1% year-on-year.

The picture continues to be finely balanced, with emissions falling in all major sectors – including transport, power, cement and metals – but rising in the chemicals industry.

This combination of factors means that emissions continue to plateau at levels slightly below the peak reached in early 2024, as shown in the figure below."

jergul
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Sun Aug 09 12:18:34
https://en...:2016-_China_CO2_emissions.svg
Sam Adams
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Sun Aug 09 12:25:06
Yes, like I said, all the work you have ever done to "fight global warming" is outdone by China every 4 months.
Average Ameriacn
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Sun Aug 09 13:14:16
Climate change is a hoax!
MAGA!
Deal with it!

https://ww...op-amazon-is-behind-one-of-the

Aug 07, 2026

Amazon is backing what could be the largest natural gas power plant ever built in the United States.

The company confirmed to Cleanview that it has acquired a site in Pecos County, Texas, where it plans to build an AI data center campus powered by on-site natural gas generation. Permits for the gas plant reveal that it would use 35 turbines to generate 7.65 gigawatts of power. It would be entirely disconnected from the Texas electricity grid — at least initially.

In January, GW Ranch received a permit from the state of Texas allowing the gas power plant to emit 33 million tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. If the project emitted that much CO2, it would be the largest single source of pollution in the United States—emitting more greenhouse gases than the country’s largest coal plant. It’s worth noting that companies rarely emit as much as their permits allow.
jergul
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Sun Aug 09 13:14:41
Dummy, lern2reed. China's emissions have plateued and will fall towards net zero moving towards 2060.

Carbon emissions are not a white privilege. We should be grateful china is weaning off the carbon teat way before it reached our emission amounts (in sum and per capita).
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