Utopia Talk / Politics / Ship full of F35 parts lost; in Hongkong

Jesse Malcolm Barack rank	Fri Sep 18 23:52:03 https://ww...sing-f-35-parts-lost-overseas/ Pentagon investigating missing F-35 spare parts lost overseas The Pentagon is investigating how sensitive technology in the F-35 fighter jet was diverted to Hong Kong and is currently unaccounted for, raising concerns that it could have made its way into the possession of the Chinese military. The shipment of parts was intended to go from Australia to the United States and included one of the jet’s canopies, which covers the cockpit and contains stealth technology, according to Politico. Instead, the parts for the Lockheed Martin-manufactured plane ended up in Hong Kong, and it’s unclear why or where those parts are now. The Pentagon’s F-35 Joint Program Office told the Washington Examiner it was “aware of a shipment issue of unserviceable F-35 Lightning II components,” and said the office is working with U.S. authorities and industry partners “to retrieve these components, investigate the incident, and place safeguards to avoid a future occurrence.” A House Armed Services Committee staffer confirmed to the Washington Examiner that the committee is “aware” of the incident. “We’ve received multiple briefings and are continuing to look into the incident,” the staffer said. The F-35A’s canopy involves an acrylic bubble with a thin layer of transparent radar-absorbent material that coats the exterior and helps keep the aircraft obscured from enemy radar. Over time, that layer can degrade, peel, and separate, requiring replacement to ensure fully mission-capable stealth. Approximately 20 countries have F-35 aircraft, including the U.S., Belgium, Canada, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Greece, Israel, Italy, Japan, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Romania, Singapore, South Korea, Switzerland, and the United Kingdom. China, for its part, has frequently sought inside information on secret Pentagon programs, including the F-35. “Possibly losing a canopy in shipment is concerning,” the director in the U.S. Government Accountability Office’s Defense Capabilities and Management team told the Washington Examiner. “Possibly losing a canopy in Hong Kong (and thus the [People’s Liberation Army]) is even more concerning.” BREAKING DOWN THE MILITARY’S NEARLY $40 BILLION IRAN WAR “A canopy eventually ending up in an engineering lab in China is a much bigger problem,” she said, not confirming that this occurred but speculating on the possibility. “But if it did, it’s not good. The canopy has a lot of sensitive technology. If the Chinese nabbed one, they probably celebrated and then got busy learning as much as they could to reverse engineer components and figure out how to overcome components.” A 2023 GAO report found that over a five-year period, one F-35 prime contractor lost more than 1 million spare parts that cost more than $85 million. It noted that the Pentagon is expected to spend $1.7 trillion over the F-35 Lightning II aircraft’s program life cycle.
jergul rank	Fri Sep 18 23:56:12 The aircraft entered service more than a decade ago. The cat is out of the bag a long time ago.
murder rank	Sat Sep 19 03:42:11 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! :o) -
Sam Adams rank	Sat Sep 19 04:45:20 That's some norwegian level IQ.
Seb rank	Sat Sep 19 08:54:51 Jergul: An adversary can still likely do useful things with that like get better radar signatures etc. even if there's not much left to learn on things like radar coating or aerodynamics.
jergul rank	Sat Sep 19 09:12:11 Seb The problem with stealth is production techniques. Computer modelling is trivial at this point. Most of that was done on windows-98 OS driven PCs. Autocad was horrible back then :D. Dummy, stop believing in magick, though of course it helps you explain the many things you do not understand.
jergul rank	Sat Sep 19 09:14:10 So, well, useful to have a box of junk full of discarded f-35 parts to the extent they provide hints on how to produce efficiently. Which is a pretty big assumption given the ticket price of the aircraft. Assuming the parts were ever produced efficiently that is.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Sep 19 11:07:43 "An adversary can still likely do useful things with that like get better radar signatures etc" Already happened when you retards managed to lose one in Podunk India for a month https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy8gj2nlnywo Lol
jergul rank	Sat Sep 19 12:38:44 Dummy, it already happened years ago. The challenge is mass production when cost is a consideration. You have not figured that out, neither has China or Russia, so they sacrifice some stealth for ease of production and flight readiness reasons. Not everyone wants to be 250 dollars for a bolt, or have a fleet readiness in the low 10s%
Seb rank	Sat Sep 19 13:27:06 Jergul: I doubt it's reverse engineering (perhaps coatings - modern stuff involves doing stuff with structuring thin layers of substances precisely engineered refractive indexes etc). It's em signatures etc. Like how in the cold war they were constantly trying to find out about the shape of sub props not to copy them but to figure out acoustics.
Seb rank	Sat Sep 19 13:29:04 NaMBLA: Turned out to be a software error which is on you guys. If you guys actually allowed access to source code and IP transfer we wouldn't need to leave things in India for weeks for a US contractor to get their arse in gear to fly out and apply a fucking patch.
TheChildren rank	Sat Sep 19 14:43:11 lol dem flyin lemons is neva da gamechanga even iran took out several alrdy
jergul rank	Sat Sep 19 14:58:29 Seb If we really want to get into the nuts and bolts, then certainly, some companies in hong kong or the mainland may have uses for discarded F-35 parts, for whatever product development reasons you can imagine. China is not a monolith industrial beast.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Sep 19 18:11:27 Weird how it happened to a brit plane and not a much more numerous us plane. What are the odds.
Seb rank	Sat Sep 19 18:43:55 NaMBLA: Lol. Do you seriously believe there haven't been software issues with US operated f-35s? There's even a list on Wikipedia.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Sep 19 21:31:00 Yet only one country was retarded enough to get one stuck in India. Lol
Seb rank	Sun Sep 20 01:05:02 As opposed to just having it crash? Seems to speak to superior airmanship.
Sam Adams rank	Sun Sep 20 01:26:35 Probably better to put it at the bottom of the ocean rather than just let it sit out in india for that long.
Seb rank	Sun Sep 20 02:34:38 I'd that's really the case then maybe Lockheed Martin aka "Ronald McDonald Douglas" should get their fucking arse in gear and fly someone out to fix their defective software immediately rather than scratching their arse for god knows how many days. But as US contractors are lazy fat fuckwits who clearly can't code and can't organise a flight at short notice, it's a good job we aren't working with you on the next fighter.
Seb rank	Sun Sep 20 02:39:05 Wasn't there another thing a few months back along the lines of "parasite kills host" where your ships were getting fucked up by contractors not being available to fix shit and the military not being able to due to corporate IP? Milo Minderbinder was a work of satire, not a fucking role model.
Seb rank	Sun Sep 20 02:44:02 Something something capitalism seeds of own destruction something... Basically you can't even trust the Americans to understand when exploitation is a team sport. They just fuck their own empire up in an orgy of incompetent one-upmanship. Too stupid. Too lazy. Too shortsighted. The British empire collapsed due to inability to sustain competition against three rivals. The US was literally gifted another century with events of the last five years without needing to do really anything and still managed to fuck it up and hand global leadership over to China without them having to do a damned thing. And NaMBLA thinks he's from a superior culture.
Sam Adams rank	Sun Sep 20 09:01:41 ^gets plane stuck in India, blames US. Lol. How come every other country with f35s isn't having this problem? Israel and the US are walking all over Iran with f35s whenever we want and you cant even pull off a non-combatant ferry flight.
TheChildren rank	Sun Sep 20 09:13:06 coronaz is come ford derrick son
jergul rank	Sun Sep 20 11:47:42 Dummy, you are not walking all over Iran. F-35s don't have the endurance as Iran immediately rendered bases nearby inoperable and chased the CVs out to the Indian Ocean. So you burned through your missile stock instead and are now looking like vast idiots as Oman and Iran determine the future of Hormuz trade.
Seb rank	Sun Sep 20 11:50:27 "How come every other country with f35s isn't having this problem?" What, like the south Korean f-35 that belly landed because all systems except flight control and the engine failed?
Seb rank	Sun Sep 20 11:55:02 "Israel and the US are walking all over Iran with f35s whenever we want" There's also a long list of US F-35 failures too. Israel is one of the only countries that has the rights to modify the software and they've used it extensively.
jergul rank	Sun Sep 20 16:35:21 F-35s stranded on Azores...again. Rolf. Google if you like.
Seb rank	Sun Sep 20 18:48:19 Hilarious timing.
Sam Adams rank	Sun Sep 20 20:36:35 The first article when you Google f35s azores: "Two brand new British F-35s have been stranded in the Azores for over two months The prolonged stranding of two newly delivered British F-35Bs in the Azores comes amid mounting scrutiny of UK Lightning fleet readiness, spare parts shortages and delayed future procurement decisions" Lmao! utter incompetence Meanwhile US and Israeli f35s are so dominant and jerguls air defenses are so shitty that we have big fat refuelers all over Iran and jergul cries about it. The difference in ability is staggering. What's hilarious is how personally butthurt jergul gets over the complete failure of Soviet bloc air defense.
Seb rank	Sun Sep 20 22:06:16 The first thing that comes for me is a US flight ferrying F-35s for delivery to Finland. "Newly delivered" - we don't actually have a base in the Azores. The US does. Looks like it is the same issue. Breakdowns when flying them to hand over. The US can't even deliver the planes to their customers because they keep breaking down.
Seb rank	Sun Sep 20 22:08:25 If there's a shortage of spares at Las Tejas, a US logistics base, used by the US to facilitate delivery of newly built planes to European customers, whose fault is that?
jergul rank	Sun Sep 20 22:53:00 Dummy, proof is in the pudding. The ME is being reformed to the benefit of muslims. Rofl.
jergul rank	Sun Sep 20 22:53:44 The aircraft have not been delivered if they are stuck on the Azores.
Sam Adams rank	Sun Sep 20 23:36:19 Aircraft are delivered to the customer at the factory. The customer flies them home. Lol retards.
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