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Sam Adams
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Sat Oct 03 01:42:29
2 tier UK strikes again.

A pakistani migrant could rape 6 different underage girls and burn down at least 4 synagogues and would have a shorter sentence.

What did this horrible white man do? He built a tiny bomb out of fireworks to destroy a climate/carbon limit enforcement camera.

https://ww...wing-up-ulez-camera-5HjdjLR_2/
Seb
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Sat Oct 03 15:59:14
15 years for detonating a bomb in a dense residential public space sending shrapnel into multiple cars and a child's bedroom.

The fact the target was a camera and his ideology is climate denialism is irrelevant.
Seb
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Sat Oct 03 16:23:55
"The blast sent shrapnel flying more than 100 metres, causing damage to a nearby van, the window frame of a child’s bedroom and the passenger side of a passing car."

"prosecutor Simon Denison KC told the Old Bailey on Friday: “The force of the explosion was such that it could have caused multiple deaths.”"

'A tiny bomb'.

NaMBLA wants people to be able to do terrorism - just a little one, for a treat. Provided they are white.

If this was a black guy he'd be calling for the death penalty.
Sam Adams
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Sat Oct 03 17:47:39
No injuries. Small bomb.

Not only is 16 years obviously overkill, it is even more egregious when compared with the light sentences you give to the correct races.

I don't think you get why your 2 tier justice system is so offensive.
Habebe
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Sat Oct 03 23:44:43
Fireworks? "Bomb" seems to be doing some heavy lifting.

Rape definitely seems worse.

I was locked up with a guy who made a homemade grenade that fucked up a window AC, he got 2-5, so 2 years, 3 yrs probation.
Im better then you
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Sun Oct 04 05:07:34
Everyone I know named Kevin is an asshole.

Fuck him! Castration, plus 20 years, and plucking of one eye.
Sam Adams
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Sun Oct 04 07:10:49
"Everyone I know named Kevin is an asshole."

Lol. Seems reasonable to me. Way more reasonable than seb logic.
Seb
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Sun Oct 04 17:01:46
NaMBLA:

The number of injuries is irrelevant. Richard Reids shoe bomb failed to go off and was unlikely to down the plane if he did. Would you have a given him a light sentence?

He set off a bomb, on a busy road, in a densely populated environment - and he admitted he did it for politically motivated purposes.

So yes they will sentence him for terrorism. The fact you agree with his cause is irrelevant.

Part of the reason he got a high sentence is exactly because people like you think this behaviour is kinda ok if white people do it. Hence exemplary sentencing where the book gets thrown at people hard to prevent more people doing it.

Habebe:

Gunpowder is an explosive. So yes, if you dismantle fireworks, extract the gunpowder and put it in a sealed metal container what you have is a bomb.

Seb
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Sun Oct 04 18:15:33
I misremeber. Reid's bomb was judged big enough that it would have created enough of a hole to down the plane. The point still stands though: terrorism charges depend on intent. Threatening to murder someone with a .22 gets you the same as threatening with a higher calibre.

Sam Adams
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Mon Oct 05 05:11:21
"The number of injuries is irrelevant"

Well ya. What's more relevant to you is that he's a white man with the wrong politics.
Seb
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Mon Oct 05 08:33:45
No, it's really just blowing up bombs because you don't agree with lawful policy that I object to.
jergul
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Mon Oct 05 09:24:09
UK 15 years is not US 15 years. He will be out after 7.5 and a felony conviction is not social-economic suicide like over there.
Sam Adams
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Mon Oct 05 13:21:00
Still wildly disproportionate. He should get the same sentence as one of sebs antisemitic palestine action losers who smashes a similar $$ item at a bank because it's owned by someone who once went to Israel.

But he will be punished 100x more severely, because the UK government is currently an abusive dictatorship, against which the people have the right and duty to revolt.
Seb
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Mon Oct 05 13:49:10
" He should get the same sentence as one of sebs antisemitic palestine action losers who smashes a similar $$ item at a bank"

No, because that poses less a risk to the public than a bomb.

The Palestinian Action guys that attacked security guards on their attack at a weapons factory are facing lengthy sentences also.
Seb
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Mon Oct 05 13:50:38
NaMBLA is so socially retarded that he can't understand that risk to others is the main factor here rather than the cost of the camera and how much he agrees with the perps opposition to particulate pollution.
Sam Adams
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Mon Oct 05 18:54:21
"No, because that poses less a risk to the public than a bomb."

Yes seb a mailbox firework is increadibly unbelievably dangerous.

You are making up lies in order to justify your repression of your political adversaries. But the people see through it, since you failed to censor twitter(not to mention people can you know, talk). How long do you think your charade will last? How harsh will the right wing response be against you?
Seb
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Mon Oct 05 21:20:38
NaMBLA:

Terrorist supporter.
Seb
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Mon Oct 05 21:23:05
You point about fireworks will be accepted when you post a video of you standing one meter from a starburst mortar that's prevented from launching.

It's harmless you say. Prove it.
Sam Adams
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Tue Oct 06 00:29:41
In America as drunken teenagers, we throw those mortars at eachother like toy grenades. Extra fun since the launch charge pops it about 20 feet in a random direction before the main charge blows, which just might be back at you if you throw like a euro/girl. A decent layer of non-plastic cloth is sufficient shielding. You'll have little scorch marks on you jeans but it won't get through. Turn away and shield your eyes obviously. Do NOT let it go off in your hand.

Stop being such a pussy. They are literally toys. Adult toys perhaps but toys notheless.
Seb
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Tue Oct 06 01:14:33
We have fireworks. We've been doing them for hundreds of years. Yawn.

You also are lying about the bomb. It wasn't a firework. It was a pipebomb. He extracted the blackpoweder change from multiple fireworks and used it to fill a caped metal pipe.

https://ww...wing-up-ulez-camera-5HjdjLR_2/

The bomb punched a hole through a van some distance a way, you'll note.

So No NaMBLA. Not chucking them 20 feet away. Video of you, one meter away, proper 8 inch shell as it detonates. Pics or stfu. Do that, then tell me it's harmless.

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