Utopia Talk / Politics / Russell Brand found guilty of rape

LazyCommunist rank	Thu Nov 05 17:33:58 Oh no ... He is a good guy and always helped us to spread Russian propaganda, he was such a useful idiot. Maybe he can continue in jail with it? Or maybe we can capture a British citizen and exchange him for Russell? https://ed...ll-brand-trial-verdict-uk-intl Actor and comedian Russell Brand found guilty of rape and sexual assault London — British actor, comedian and media personality Russell Brand faces a lengthy prison sentence after he was found guilty in a London court on Thursday of raping a young fan and sexually assaulting three women. Brand, 51, was convicted of raping the fan in 2009 after they met at one of his shows in west London. He was also found guilty of groping an MTV worker at a bar in central London in 2004, kissing and groping another woman at her workplace in 2005 and sexually assaulting another woman in 2009 when she was forced to give him a massage. At Southwark Crown Court on Thursday, a jury of eight men and four women cleared the star of two separate charges of rape and one count of attempted indecent assault, after deliberating for around eight and a half hours. Speaking after the verdicts were delivered, judge Joel Bennathan said the case was “very well prepared,” according to Britain’s Press Association, adding that sentencing would take place on Monday. Brand, who stood straight in the dock as the verdicts were revealed and closed his eyes as he heard he was found guilty of rape, has been remanded in custody. “The consequence of that is inevitably a significant custodial term,” Bennathan said. Brand “used his influence, status and fame to exploit and sexually offend against women,” London’s Metropolitan Police Service said following the comedian’s conviction. “As his profile grew, so too did his sense of entitlement. I hope this conviction sends a clear message that no one is above the law, no matter how famous or powerful they may be,” Detective Superintendent Andy Furphy said in a statement.
Sam Adams rank	Thu Nov 05 18:36:49 Who
Seb rank	Thu Nov 05 22:31:39 It figures that Sam - who knows every single sex offender in the UK who is a minority by name and will follow their case from apprehension through to conviction and appeal and post about them obsessively here - has never heard of this one even though his crimes are both prolific and he is pretty high profile.
Sam Adams rank	Thu Nov 05 23:00:08 Congrats baboon you finally found a white criminal.
murder rank	Fri Nov 06 00:15:34 "Who" Katy Perry's ex-husband. -
Im better then you rank	Fri Nov 06 06:53:38 I think we can all agree he was demented for cheating on Katy Perry.
Forwyn rank	Fri Nov 06 17:42:28 Gee, I can't imagine why someone would care less about *checks notes* a white "rapist" fondling the tit of a girl giving him a blowjob, than a teenager getting gangbanged in the bushes by a pack of third-worlders.
murder rank	Fri Nov 06 21:12:57 "Gee, I can't imagine why someone would care less about *checks notes* a white "rapist" fondling the tit of a girl giving him a blowjob, than a teenager getting gangbanged in the bushes by a pack of third-worlders." Maybe you shouldn't rely on the notes of *checks notes* rapists. -
Forwyn rank	Fri Nov 06 21:23:38 Maybe I can rely on the jury verdict, that found that the blowjob was consensual, but the groping was not.
jergul rank	Fri Nov 06 21:31:06 To be fair, it found that there was not enough evidence proving the blowjob was non-consensual beyond reasonable doubt. A civic trial might determine what the balance of probability is.
Rugian rank	Fri Nov 06 23:37:51 "Maybe I can rely on the jury verdict, that found that the blowjob was consensual, but the groping was not." The fuck? There's no way that can actually be what they decided.
tumbleweed rank	Sat Nov 07 00:01:09 they didn't find it was consensual, as jergul said, just didn't convict him on the alleged forced oral sex it's not unlike w/ Trump where Jean alleged he put Toad in too but they only found liable for fingers
Seb rank	Sat Nov 07 09:12:57 It's very telling that Forwyn is focusing on one count with one woman where he wasn't convicted and not the various other charges and other women he was. Very much the expected "Save our women (for us)" vibe the far right (who are statistically far more likely to be convicted of sexual violence and abuse than the general population).
Forwyn rank	Sat Nov 07 15:08:33 As three of the four charges are muhhh groping, it's telling that one of the three involves a woman who sucked his cock in a bathroom stall right after. And all three are based on nothing but testimony twenty years later. The one rape charge is a case of consensual sex but he stuck it in her butt. This does indeed follow a trend. You ignore savage violent rape by your imports and point at cases of rich white men being weird and having consent issues with strange whores. You legitimate think that Assange pulling off a condom during consensual sex is exactly the same as a jogger being accosted and dragged in the bushes. You cry about muh Cornell 7 but ignore two hispanics drugging, raping, and killing a Manhattan student.
Sam Adams rank	Sat Nov 07 17:37:22 "who are statistically far more likely to be convicted of sexual violence and abuse than the general population" A low IQ lie. Imagine importing pakistanis, watching the grooming gang outbreak, and then spewing that lie. Not just the fact that you are a liar, but the fact that you expect others to believe such a lie... Baboon IQ.
Seb rank	Sun Nov 08 16:06:29 Forwyn: Yeah but one of those charges is anal rape, and groping is still sexual assault. "And all three are based on nothing but testimony twenty years later." Indeed, and they secured a conviction of 4 of the 6 counts. Imagine how convincing then the various testimony must have been - corroborating accounts, contemporaneous records etc. - for this to secure a conviction, and how likely it is that the other accounts represent that lack of robust enough evidence 20 years later. The UK conviction rate for rape is low by international standards (as you and Sam keep reminding us, though to reframe it as over reporting, though to are happy to also attribute it to real rapes committed by immigrants that go unpunished and unconvicted).
Seb rank	Sun Nov 08 16:07:58 NaMBLA: https://ww...olence-against-women-and-girls
Seb rank	Sun Nov 08 16:09:21 Over 40% of the people you were vigorously defending as subject to "two tier policing" while they were rioting and trying to set alight women and children in hotels had prior convictions for violence against women and girls NaMBLA. These are the people you choose to defend. And we know why.
Trolling UPer rank	Sun Nov 08 16:43:13 Who would have ever suspected forpedo and samstein to be for rape and sexual assault. It's like they all stick together under some sort of a cult and still offended by the metoo crowd and always do the whataboutisms. It's a fucking celebrity where their last caught up with em. It's like saying 'oh, he killed somebody way back when and never got caught, why should we hold them accountable now' remove 'muh statute of limitations' because I support predators and rapists. How can I call myself a man anymore!?'
Forwyn rank	Sun Nov 08 17:47:21 "Yeah but one of those charges is anal rape" "The one rape charge is a case of consensual sex but he stuck it in her butt." "groping is still sexual assault." I've been groped by drunk women twice. I don't think they should go to prison for it.
Sam Adams rank	Sun Nov 08 17:54:28 Ahhh a guardian article. That explains all the lies. I didn't realize there were any humans dumb enough to read that thing still... oh wait.
Seb rank	Sun Nov 08 18:22:20 Let's be clear about this Forwyn: "Then, without warning, Brand flipped her over and anally raped her so violently that she struggled to breathe. She begged him to stop but he refused, telling her: “I want you to feel my come.” To you, this isn't a serious crime?
Seb rank	Sun Nov 08 18:23:02 NaMBLA: Forwyn is going to great lengths to disprove you.
Seb rank	Sun Nov 08 18:24:37 Forwyn doesn't think groping a woman should be a crime, and holding a woman down and violently analy raping them is also fine, as long as they've sucked you off first. Charming specimen of manhood.
Sam Adams rank	Sun Nov 08 18:36:19 Seb you posted a guardian article
murder rank	Sun Nov 08 19:22:46 "I've been groped by drunk women twice. I don't think they should go to prison for it." I guess don't file charges then. That doesn't mean that others should just accept it. -
Forwyn rank	Sun Nov 08 19:49:28 Yes, let's be clear here Seb: You entered this article crying that Sam posts about violent third-world rapists but is ignorant of Russell Brand - who you see as worse and more disgusting - because he is white and rich. And no, sticking it into the butt of someone you're already fucking is not as serious as a sudden, anonymous violent rape. Serious? Sure, it's the only thing here worth a judicial review 20 years later. But still not worth your original false indignance. "I guess don't file charges then. That doesn't mean that others should just accept it." Still an incredible waste of resources, not to mention the disturbing nature of impartial jurisprudence for a person to say, "He grabbed my tit", the accused to say, "no I didn't", and criminal charges stick twenty years later.
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