Utopia Talk / General Talk / Mod Thread & Rules

HH Psycho Guy Moderator	Tue Feb 24 04:01:33 The following can be subject to deletion: 1) Any link to pornographic images. Full nudity is allowed, it just cannot be sexual or pornographic in nature. Child nudity is not acceptable at all. (I realize parents like to take pictures of their naked infants. For the sake of internet predators, please keep them decent.) 2) Spam flooding. 3) Threats against the well-being or life of another member. Actions such as stalking, flaming, trolling, and harrassment will be judged on a person to person basis, but extremely obscene harrassment may be deleted before any further discussion is taken on it for the sake of keeping the peace. 4) Any photos, images or material used without the permission of the forum author/creator. 5) Impersonating the name or a variation of the name that could lead to identity confusion of a forum member, if that member objects to it. 6) Posts that the author requests to be deleted MAY be deleted. The moderators have the choice of not complying. --- The rest is just true. --- 7) Only Atma may post useless posts in the Rules thread. 8) DL is inactive. 9) HERESY GROWS FROM IDLENESS 10) Poison is Rick Flair. When posting an URL that is tasteless, obscene or inappropriate for the workspace please identify it with NWS (Not Workplace Safe) or NSFW (Not Safe For Work). This is a courtesy to our working members. THERE IS NO NEED TO GET THEM FIRED. This is considered an adult forum, therefore adult language and adult discussion is ALLOWED and will almost CERTAINLY take place. It will be consistently assumed that minors are not privy to the content here. ---- In case of emergency, break glass. This thread is for contacting moderators when they're needed for clean-up. Current mods: Kaylana, Mad Doggie, HH Daemon Lord, HH Evenflow, Damian, HH Psycho Guy
HH Psycho Guy Moderator	Tue Feb 24 04:02:43 The following can be subject to deletion: 1) Any link to pornographic images. Full nudity is allowed, it just cannot be sexual or pornographic in nature. Child nudity is not acceptable at all. (I realize parents like to take pictures of their naked infants. For the sake of internet predators, please keep them decent.) 2) Spam flooding. 3) Threats against the well-being or life of another member. Actions such as stalking, flaming, trolling, and harrassment will be judged on a person to person basis, but extremely obscene harrassment may be deleted before any further discussion is taken on it for the sake of keeping the peace. 4) Any photos, images or material used without the permission of the forum author/creator. 5) Impersonating the name or a variation of the name that could lead to identity confusion of a forum member, if that member objects to it. 6) Posts that the author requests to be deleted MAY be deleted. The moderators have the choice of not complying. --- The rest is just true. --- 7) Only Atma may post useless posts in the Rules thread. 8) DL is inactive. 9) HERESY GROWS FROM IDLENESS 10) Poison is Rick Flair. 11) Do not delete any posts in the Mod Thread. Only PG is allowed to do that. We talked about this, tardlets. When posting an URL that is tasteless, obscene or inappropriate for the workspace please identify it with NWS (Not Workplace Safe) or NSFW (Not Safe For Work). This is a courtesy to our working members. THERE IS NO NEED TO GET THEM FIRED. This is considered an adult forum, therefore adult language and adult discussion is ALLOWED and will almost CERTAINLY take place. It will be consistently assumed that minors are not privy to the content here. ---- In case of emergency, break glass. This thread is for contacting moderators when they're needed for clean-up. Current mods: Kaylana, Mad Doggie, HH Daemon Lord, HH Evenflow, Damian, HH Psycho Guy
Agri Patron	Tue Feb 24 04:17:57 ttt
Agri Patron	Tue Feb 24 04:18:03 :D
Agri Patron	Tue Feb 24 04:18:06 <3
McKobb SNWEDF Member	Tue Feb 24 07:57:16 ttt
Agri Patron	Tue Feb 24 10:34:37 dear mods http://ata...thread=3373&time=1235493207656 I think there's a spam post somewhere in there.
Agri Patron	Tue Feb 24 13:58:56 hai mods! http://ata...thread=3373&time=1235505076000 again! boo!
Kaylana Moderator	Tue Feb 24 14:31:22 "Tardlets?" That's a flattering way to talk about your fellow mods, and to sticky it no less.. Thanks PG, nice to know where you stand.
Agri Patron	Tue Feb 24 14:33:39 Hmm...
Agri Patron	Tue Feb 24 14:33:57 Ah, apparently the time on the boards is way off again :)
HH Psycho Guy Moderator	Tue Feb 24 15:23:45 ...I stand somewhere?
McKobb SNWEDF Member	Tue Feb 24 15:56:38 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9ebT_jeKoo Don't stand Don't stand Don't stand so close to me!
HH Psycho Guy Moderator	Tue Feb 24 16:03:04 <3 McKobb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnsHpPNltBw
Ubes JAC Wildebeest	Wed Feb 25 16:54:32 "That's a flattering way to talk about your fellow mods" You can call me a tardlet, PG. I won't hate joo.
HH Evenflow Moderator	Wed Feb 25 20:35:45 I'm thinking he was just kidding.
HH Psycho Guy Moderator	Wed Feb 25 22:37:33 If you think that, you've interacted with me at some point.
Kaylana Moderator	Wed Feb 25 22:44:07 o_o <-- This is me not caring.
HH Psycho Guy Moderator	Wed Feb 25 22:59:33 Or there's a large automobile coming at you. With the brights on.
Palem Person.	Wed Feb 25 23:02:35 You look weird when you're not caring
Kaylana Moderator	Thu Feb 26 14:47:09 so's your face
nhill Member	Sat Feb 28 00:24:21 Conversation START! Hi, how are you?
nhill Member	Sat Feb 28 00:26:27 This thread needs moar posts.
nhill Member	Sat Feb 28 00:26:42 I'm doing alright.
nhill Member	Sat Feb 28 00:27:44 The credit card company cancelled my credit card because I tried to order something from a British website. They thought someone stole my identity. I'm 50% british, wtf.
nhill Member	Sat Feb 28 00:28:46 The killer is that my new computer won't arrive for another week because I just assumed my card wouldn't get declined after ordering it. I miss having a computer :'(
nhill Member	Sat Feb 28 00:30:54 Also, the other day I had my hands full of crap that I was bringing out to the car. I put two of my books on top of the car to open the door and then unloaded the rest of the stuff on the passenger seat. Then I drove away. RIP "Geek Love" and "The Big Book of Brain Games: 1,000 PlayThinks of Art, Mathematics & Science"
nhill Member	Sat Feb 28 00:31:50 I lotioned up my daughter and gave her a massage in the nude today. She loved it.
Palem Person.	Sat Feb 28 00:32:05 weird
nhill Member	Sat Feb 28 00:33:11 I wonder how pretty games will look on my new computer. PC gaming ftw! I think I may buy L4D on the PC now that I'll have a computer capable of running it.
nhill Member	Sat Feb 28 00:33:48 Infant massage has a lot of benefits for a child's developing brain, apparently.
nhill Member	Sat Feb 28 00:35:21 I just tooted.
nhill Member	Sat Feb 28 00:35:56 I have two salty nuts in my mouth atm. True story, bro.
nhill Member	Sat Feb 28 00:36:55 Facebook is ghey.
nhill Member	Sat Feb 28 00:37:43 Young Slumdog Actor Gets Beating From Father Angered that his son wouldn’t play to a crowd welcoming 10-year-old Slumdog Millionaire actor Azharuddin Mohammed back to Mumbai, the boy’s father administered a public beating today, the Sun reports. Azharuddin arrived home yesterday following the film’s Oscar triumph, and had the day off school; when he wouldn’t appear for onlookers outside his slum dwelling, father Ismail, 45, launched a 30-second flurry of kicks and slaps.
McKobb Member	Sat Feb 28 07:53:46 You can take the kid out of the slum, but not his father's foot out of his ass.
HH Psycho Guy Moderator	Sat Feb 28 15:40:33 Find a fire and die in it.
Agri Patron	Sat Feb 28 15:43:37 ttt
Hood Member	Sat Feb 28 15:48:45 I find it clever to top a thread covered in ejaculative juices! yes, I invented a word.
HH Psycho Guy Moderator	Sat Feb 28 17:28:14 Juices?
Palem Person.	Sat Feb 28 21:05:15 No, Idiot. That strange upside down i
nhill Member	Sat Feb 28 23:57:40 Find a fire and die in it, tardlets.
Juggernaut Member	Sun Mar 01 22:32:38 Don't you know who I am?
Juggernaut Member	Mon Mar 02 17:17:45 You must not know who I am.
Kaylana Moderator	Mon Mar 02 18:39:30 Should we?
Juggernaut Member	Mon Mar 02 19:13:59 I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!
Kaylana Moderator	Mon Mar 02 19:16:03 Okay okay, you're the juggernaut bitch, whatever you say.
Juggernaut Member	Mon Mar 02 19:18:32 No, not the Juggernaut Bitch. I'm the Juggernaut. Bitch! Can't you see that my outfit is so tight?
Kaylana Moderator	Mon Mar 02 19:22:14 I feel a set-up coming on
Kaylana Moderator	Mon Mar 02 19:22:30 and more x-men to show up in the near future.
Juggernaut Member	Mon Mar 02 19:28:13 Silly bitch, your weapons can't harm me. Don't you know who I am?
Kaylana Moderator	Mon Mar 02 19:33:41 Yes yes we've been through this, you're the juggernaut. I have a superpower though. I can make posters disappear.
Juggernaut Member	Mon Mar 02 19:45:27 Bow down to a true pimp! You can't harm me, are you a fucking ass? Do you not know who I am? You must not know who I am. I'm the Juggernaut, bitch! I'm bad. I'm the baddest motherfucker in the world. Have you ever seen a costume like mine?
Kaylana Moderator	Mon Mar 02 19:47:52 Only in adult costume shops
Juggernaut Member	Mon Mar 02 19:53:01 Don't you see my outfit? I'm a part time stripper and I do hair.
Kaylana Moderator	Mon Mar 02 19:54:01 You do hair? This is good news.
Juggernaut Member	Mon Mar 02 19:58:14 Fuck that shit, I'm the Juggernaut. I've been waiting for that shit my whole damn life!
tumbleweed Member	Mon Mar 02 20:07:44 you might enjoy this book: http://www...dp/1441451579/ref=pd_sbs_hpc_6
Juggernaut Member	Mon Mar 02 20:10:48 That shit hurts my head, Charles.
Juggernaut Member	Mon Mar 02 22:55:05 Do you know who I am?
cardinal JAC Member	Tue Mar 03 02:28:22 is DL inactive?
HH Psycho Guy Moderator	Tue Mar 03 02:47:06 Indeed he is. Also, those that delete posts in this thread are tardlets.
nhill Member	Tue Mar 03 03:47:04 “those that delete posts in this thread are tardlets.” QFT
Palem Person.	Tue Mar 03 12:35:30 "QFT " qft
tumbleweed Member	Tue Mar 03 12:45:24 "T" qft
HH Psycho Guy Moderator	Tue Mar 03 20:15:47 I suggest we just spam the hell out of this thread.
HH Psycho Guy Moderator	Tue Mar 03 20:16:56 I mean, there was an agreement, and I don't remember renegotiating.
Kaylana Moderator	Tue Mar 03 21:00:59 Ah, there is where you are mistaken. First of all, the agreement was only made with me. Not with the other mods. Secondly, the agreement was that I didn't *have* to clean out the thread anymore, but there was never any agreement that said I couldn't still do so if I wanted. Third, the whole reason you said I didn't have to clean out the spam anymore is because you would read through the spam and take care of the mod requests. But, you didn't take care of them, so I was still reading through spam to address the requests after it was brought to my attention that they were being untended.
Kaylana Moderator	Tue Mar 03 21:01:46 So. Any more demands?
Kaylana Moderator	Tue Mar 03 21:02:01 Or should I say complaints?
cardinal JAC Member	Tue Mar 03 21:38:43 ttt
Still Well Member	Tue Mar 03 21:44:18 we can always just pass our own unilateral agreements.
cardinal JAC Member	Tue Mar 03 21:45:01 i'll give you a unilateral agreement!
HH Psycho Guy Moderator	Tue Mar 03 21:51:05 I browbeat MD into agreeing as well... though you may be the same person. This is the internets. So you just don't like my schedule and my standards for what really needs mod attention, so going back on the deal was warranted. I'll be sure to remember that if we ever play Diplomacy... Besides, I only actually agreed to get rid of this thread if it got full and put up a new one. All the stuff I actually considered problematic was purely coincidental.
Kaylana Moderator	Tue Mar 03 21:52:52 MD agreed to this? That's unusual. And there was no going back on the deal because the deal is still valid. I *still* don't *have* to delete the spam in this thread, but I have never been *not allowed* to. So, really, who went back on the deal now?
Kaylana Moderator	Tue Mar 03 21:53:52 And are you srsly trying to tell me I'm not allowed to anymore, or that I of all people would agree to that? El Oh El
HH Psycho Guy Moderator	Tue Mar 03 22:07:26 I'm saying that you agreed to leave management of this thread up to me because you didn't want to be associated with the spamfest, so I guess I could say that... but that'd be silly since neither of us seem to remember things the same way and it'd lead to all kinds of childish remarks.
Kaylana Moderator	Tue Mar 03 22:09:46 No I said I didn't want to clean up the spamfest day after day in trying to find the legitimate posts. But I didn't want the requests to be ignored. So I guess you could say, from your point of view, I have rescinded my abstaining in maintaining the thread.
HH Psycho Guy Moderator	Tue Mar 03 22:11:59 You're not so much maintaining the thread as purging it of joy.
Kaylana Moderator	Tue Mar 03 22:15:36 You may have your joy in other threads.
HH Psycho Guy Moderator	Tue Mar 03 22:17:39 Sadly, no. I cannot.
Kaylana Moderator	Tue Mar 03 22:26:14 :( If it really makes you sad, I will back off on my diligence.
Real Fred Member	Wed Mar 04 13:55:49 1. 1) Which of the following is the most compelling evidence for the existence of an intelligent and loving Designer? 1. A Caribbean sunset 2. The screams of a baby seal as it is torn apart by a shark 3. The first time your perfect new baby smiles at you 4. The speed of the Ebola virus converting an African child's organs into liquid 2. A deeply devout Catholic couple has just returned from their fiftieth anniversary celebration, when suddenly the husband falls to the ground, clutching his chest. What is the most productive action for the wife to take? 1. Call 911 2. Put him in the car and race to the hospital herself 3. Administer CPR 4. Fall on her knees and pray to the Lord to spare his life 3. You are a product tester and frequently bring your work home. Yesterday, while dressed in a flame resistant suit (up to 3,000 degrees) and carrying the latest model fire extinguisher, you discover your neighbor's house is on fire. As the flames quickly spread, you stand and watch your neighbor's new baby burn to death. Which of the following best describes your behavior? 1. All-powerful 2. All-knowing 3. All-loving 4. Mysterious 4. One day while jogging in the park, you see a maniac with a butcher knife about to attack a six-year old girl. Which would be the most morally proper action to take? 1. Grab the nearest rock and beat off the attacker 2. Call the police on your cell phone 3. Yell "POLICE!" and run toward the attacker in a threatening manner 4. Calmly walk away, because God works in mysterious ways, and what appears "evil" to our finite human mind, may in fact be part of a vaster plan in God's infinite mind, so it's best not to interfere 5. You are the incarnated Son of the all-powerful and all-loving Creator of the universe. What would be a good way to demonstrate your compassion and power? 1. Cure cancer forever 2. Cause all the earth's deserts to bloom with food crops 3. Unite the world with a common language and an end to poverty 4. Conjure up a jug of wine and follow it up by walking on water 6. Since we can never "know" whether or not a God exists - it is fundamentally a matter of "faith" - it's best to be a believer since you have nothing to lose, but everything to lose if your disbelief is incorrect. Keeping in mind that the fate of your soul depends on the right choice, in which God should you place your belief? For extra credit, include a brief essay justifying your choice, along with the reasons why you reject the other three. 1. Zeus 2. Quetzalcoatl 3. Vishnu 4. The Holy Trinity (*Note: Choice D assumes you were born around 400 A.D. or later, after the invention of the Trinity) 7. You are the Creator of the universe. Your chosen people are a tribe of nomadic herdsmen, presently in bondage on one of the millions of your planets. Their ruler is being quite obstinate. Keeping in mind that you possess not only infinite power but also infinite love, your best course of action would be to: 1. Cause the ruler to drop dead of a heart attack 2. Cause the ruler to fall off a cliff 3. Visit the ruler in a dream and persuade him to let your people go 4. Slaughter a great number of innocent babies who had nothing to do with the ruler's policies 8. You are a Starfleet Federation explorer in the process of cataloging two newly discovered planets. The majority of the inhabitants of each planet believe in a deity, but they are two different deities. Deity "X" is said to be not only all-powerful, all-loving, and all-knowing, but the designer of a marvelously complex and ordered world. Deity "Y" is said to be indifferent, absent, unconcerned with the affairs of his planet, and some even say evil. Which god rules over which planet? Planet A: Has apparently achieved a state of advanced benign equilibrium in which there are no viruses or diseases, and only a very small number of natural disasters, which, when they do strike, always eliminate only the sinful and evil. The inhabitants, both plant and animal, have learned to maintain their existence through photosynthesis, and thus do not have to kill and eat each other in order to survive. There are no "birth defects;" every inhabitant comes into existence perfectly formed and equipped for a long and productive life. Deity X_____ Deity Y_____ Planet B: Adorned with many examples of beauty and order, it is also constantly beset by hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, floods, volcanoes, lightning bolts, viruses, disfiguring diseases, parasites, leeches, flies, crop-destroying pests and many other phenomena which afflict both the innocent and the evil. Every life form on the planet can only sustain its existence through the destruction and consumption of other life forms. Some of the inhabitants are born with a crippling condition called a "birth defect", which condemns them to living extremely limited, short, or painful lives. Deity X_____ Deity Y_____ 9. What is the number of children born without arms or legs that have been miraculously restored by a visit to the shrine at Lourdes, France? 1. Too many to count 2. Over 1,000 3. Several dozen 4. Zero, but only because their faith was not strong enough 10. As we all know, there is only one true religion. What is the one true religion in each of the following circumstances? 1. You are born in Karnak in 3000 B.C. 2. You are born in Bombay in 300 B.C. 3. You are born in Baghdad in 900 A.D. 4. You are born in Mexico City in 1956 A.D. 11. Although you are new at golf, you have just hit a beautiful 200-yard drive and your ball has landed on a blade of grass near the cup at Hole 3. The green contains ten million blades of grass. The odds of your ball landing on that blade of grass are 10,000,000 to one against, too improbable to have happened by mere chance. What's the explanation? 1. The wind guided it 2. Your muscles guided it 3. There is no need for an explanation 4. You consciously designed your shot to land on that particular blade 12. Which of the following is most likely to be true, and why? 1. Romulus was the son of God, born to a mortal human virgin 2. Dionysus turned water into wine 3. Apollonius of Tyana raised a girl from the dead 4. Jesus Christ was the son of God, born to a mortal virgin, turned water into wine, and raised a man from the dead 13. Conceding that torture is permissible under certain conditions, which of the following would be the best justification? 1. Your prisoner is the only one who knows the date and time of an assassination attempt on the Pope 2. Your prisoner is the only one who knows where a nuclear device has been planted in Washington, D.C. 3. Your prisoner is the only one who knows where a vial of nerve gas has been placed in the London water supply system 4. Your prisoner has announced that the earth revolves around the sun 14. We know that Christianity is true because the Gospel writers, inspired by God who can make no error, recorded the founding events. For example, on the first Easter morning, the visitors to the tomb were greeted by which of the following: 1. A young man (Mark 16:5) 2. No, no, it was no man, it was an angel (Matthew 28:2-5) 3. You're both wrong, it was two men (Luke 24:4) 4. Damn it, there was nobody there (John 20:1-2) 15. According to inerrant Scripture, the Savior prayed alone in the garden while the three disciples who accompanied him had fallen asleep. How did the gospel writer know the words of that prayer? 1. Jesus left them written down under a rock 2. They were recorded on a primitive taping device 3. The gospel writer was psychic 4. The three disciples were later hypnotized and asked to recall the prayer 16. According to at least one sainted church father, one of the pleasures of the saved will be to behold the agony of the damned. What would be the best time of day in heaven for a mother to behold the agony of her only son? 1. Early in the morning before it gets too crowded 2. Mid-day when she can compare notes and share the celebration with other mothers 3. Late at night when she can enjoy the flames in starker contrast 17. In the Judeo-Christian tradition, we always look to the Bible as a guide. In this example, your teenage son has returned home from the prom intoxicated. The Bible's instruction is: 1. Sit him down for a heart to heart talk 2. Enroll him in AA 3. Take away his driving privilege for one month 4. Smash his head in with rocks 18. In this example, your son-in-law, returned from his honeymoon, has just told you he suspects your daughter was not a virgin on their wedding night. Wishing to abide by God's holy rules as laid out in the Bible, you should: 1. Ask him if he was a virgin before you do anything 2. Advise him to forgive her 3. Talk to your daughter 4. Go find those rocks 19. You are eating lunch at a crowded fast food restaurant, occupied mostly by children, when suddenly a gunman bursts in, screams "Do not question or test me," and sprays the room with bullets. Ten people are killed instantly, many more grievously wounded, but somehow you escape unharmed. His ammunition expended, the gunman collapses to the floor. What should you do? 1. Call the police and wait for them to arrive 2. Call the police and leave 3. Risk death by asking the gunman why he did it, even though he told you not to 4. Fall on your knees and give thanks and praise to the gunman for sparing your life 20. Why did God show his backside to Moses, as described in Holy Scripture, Ex.33:23? 1. He invented everything, and this was simply the first mooning 2. He was really ticked off when Moses dropped the tablets 3. He was piqued, having just discovered His almighty powers were useless against chariots of iron (Judges I:19) 4. Moses was too serious and needed to lighten up a little 21. Jesus was God, and God knows all things, including all the medical knowledge that will ever be known. Why did Jesus blame demons for the case of epilepsy he cured? 1. He was suffering from a temporary case of "brain freeze" 2. The Aramaic word for "demon" is the same as the word for "cranial malfunction" 3. Neurology was not his specialty 4. In first-century Palestine, demons really did cause epilepsy. This affliction only began to be caused by electrochemical brain activity after about 1850 A.D. 22. This morning's paper carries a story about a suburban father who became so enraged with his disobedient children that he carried them both to the backyard pool where he drowned them, along with their puppy, their kitten, and their hamster. How should this father be treated? 1. He should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law 2. He should be banished from the town 3. He should be lynched to save the taxpayers' money 4. The townspeople should gather together to sing hymns of praise to him 23. This morning I started my day by insulting my mother in public, then punched out my father, my brother, and my sister. Then I gathered up all my clothes, sold them to a second-hand store, and with the proceeds bought a used Uzi and 50 rounds of ammunition. Next, I went down to the animal shelter and injected all the dogs with a drug that caused them to go insane and dive into the nearby canal where they all drowned. By this time I was hungry, so I went over to my neighbor's apple orchard and burned it down, because I wanted an orange and there weren't any. On the way home, I stopped at the local steel mill to discuss my philosophy of life with some of the guys. They laughed at me and said to stow it, so I tossed them all into the blast furnace. That night I discovered my son looking at a copy of Playboy. Concerned for his future welfare, I cut off his right hand. What historical character did my activities today most resemble? 1. Genghis Khan 2. Charles Manson 3. Adolph Hitler 4. Jesus Christ 24. Down through the ages, who has been most responsible for the medical discoveries that have relieved untold amounts of suffering and pain, and extended the length of that most sacred of creations, human life? 1. Medical doctors 2. Research biologists 3. Chemists 4. The Catholic Church 25. A great sadness has come into your life which you feel you cannot bear. A friend informs you of a free counseling service which has never failed to aid and comfort many others. You call the counselor; the phone rings and rings with no answer; you finally hang up. What is the most likely explanation? 1. The counselor is sitting by the phone but not answering in order to test your faith in him 2. The counselor always stands ready to hear your pleas for help, but sometimes the answer is "no" 3. The counselor will not answer because he wants you to profit by the spiritual strength that only comes through suffering 4. The counselor is not home ESSAY QUESTION While it is true that there have been and still are many different gods and many different religions, they are really just the various names by which various cultures approach the same God. Explain how and why each of the following is the same God: * Quetzalcoatl, who wants you to skin a young virgin alive, then put on the skin and dance; * Shiva, who wants you to pray over his penis; * Allah, who wants you to fly airliners into buildings; * Catholic God; who speaks directly through the Pope; * Baptist God, who most definitely does not; * Jesus, who wants you to castrate yourself to ensure arrival in heaven * Jehovah, who any day now, is going to kill everyone on the earth except for his Witnesses
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