Utopia Talk / General Talk / I'm hosting a Vegas Trip.

Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 00:08:00 That Facebook Ad I put up and sent out to all my close friends - -------------------------------------------------- Occasion: SUPER Fun trip Dates: 12-18 to 12-20 (Fri - Sun) Destination: VEGASSSS!!!! Who's invited: You & Your friends For everyone that plans, wants, or is thinking about going to Vegas this Holiday season, here's your chance! I will be hosting a Vegas trip the Friday before Christmas, and you are all invited! I'd like to know what people would like to do so I can plan out a general schedule and get great discounts for a large group. By no means do you have to follow this and you're welcome to do your own thing with your own group. I'm going to lay down the information and at the end, I'd like you to answer the questions and post it as a reply to this note. Thanks! ------------------------Shows---------------------------- These were the shows that I could find that were on good deals on the night of 18th of Dec. Cirque du Soleil seems to be the most wanted show, but I think Blue Man Group tix are at an amazing deal at 40% off for the winter. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Blue Man Group - $43 cheapest, $79 for the best seats. Cirque du Soleil: Criss Angel Believe -$60 KA - $76 LOVE - $77 O - Dark (closed) Zumanity - $75 Le Reve - $105 Lion King - Dark -------------------------Food--------------------------------- There's a lot of fine dining to be had, from buffets to expensive French food. I wouldn't mind giving some a taste and I'm sure I can find some really good ones. I listed a few examples, we don't have to stick to these listed. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Buffets: Bellagio- $25-$35 Can't go wrong with the Bellagio Buffet. Been there too many time for their awesome Alaskan crab legs. Wynn- $15-$25 $$$ range ($25-50 per person): Burger Bar Bouchon Mon Ami Grill Mesa Grill $$$$ range: ($50+ per person) Craftsteak Nobu -------------------------Clubs--------------------------------- Definitely want to check at least one for a night. There's always stories of XS Nightclub, but with a $50 dollar cover for guys and $30 for girls without a promotion, it's definitely makes thinking about going there a question mark. There's plenty around and for those that have never really been in one, including myself, I'm sure most will do just fine. Avg cover price - $20. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Pure PussyCat Lounge XS Tryst Light Tao LAX Too many to list. ----------------- Pool Clubs ----------------------- What? Swimming in Vegas in the winter? yes! lol. All the open pools are heated, so anyone looking for this kind of experience before the summer hits, it's always available. Avg cover price - $20. --------------------------------------------------------- Tao Beach Venus Pool Club VooDoo Beach Rehab Palms Pool Bare --------------------------------------------------------- FANTASTIC~! With all that out of my way, it's time to recruit the crew! Requirements: 1. You have to be my friend (which you are, or you wouldn't have received this invitation) 2. You CAN be a friends of my friend, if you don't k now me. 3. You MUST be over 21. We are not going on a Field Trip! 4. You must be ready to have LOTS OF FUN! We don't want anyone who plan on staying in hotel and read book all weekend. If you are one of them, GTFO! If you meet ALL of the requirements, RSVP by NEXT FRIDAY. This will also allow me to make hotel reservations as wells as to nice restaurants if the group should want to go. For those who RSVP'ed me, I will send out survey to each one of you to set up budget and shows. CHEERS! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- And believe it or not, you are all invited as well, so if interested, just RSVP here.....
sstrickland New Member	Fri Nov 13 00:33:20 fagot.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 13 01:28:37 i suggest a smash & grab job at the Bellagio
Sunshine Member	Fri Nov 13 01:38:45 But if they make it out with the money they're still in the middle of the fucking desert :p
Atma01 Member	Fri Nov 13 01:55:50 Why the fuck would you PLAN a vegas vacation. The best ones should be spur of the moment whore-ups. And if you can remember more than 50% of it you are fucking doing it wrong.
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 02:00:05 We are not going to plan the whole thing. I just need people RSVP'ing in advance so i can buy Show tickets (if there's a show that most people want to see). The rest will be pretty much be gambling during the day and club/drinking at night.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 13 02:02:17 i'm not participating in this heist without thorough planning
Atma01 Member	Fri Nov 13 02:03:06 Way to miss the point of my post. You always cease to amaze me. Actually now that I think of it I need some advice from you. What is the best way to attract a complete train wreck of a woman who is an easy whore? You seem to know alot and really I don't want to put much effort in. I'll just make sure to double bag. Thanks in advance bro.
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 02:05:17 Here's a brief "Survey" that you should feel out if you are interested: 1) What would be your budget for this trip if you came or wanted to go? ($150 minimum) 2) Do you want to see a show? If yes, which ones and what's the max you're willing to pay for it? 3) a. Would you pay $50 cover (guys), $30 cover (girls) for XS Nightclub? [it is the NICEST club on the strip] b.Would you pay $30 cover (guys), $20 cover (girls) for Tryst Nightclub? Will be used for planning purpose.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 13 02:16:32 As long as we're hitting these three casinos, we'll get our bankroll.
Ubes JAC Wildebeest	Fri Nov 13 02:18:44 Pay for my flight.
Still Well Member	Fri Nov 13 06:40:12 same, pay for the flight and I'm there.
Firestorm Phoenix Member	Fri Nov 13 06:57:51 Ditto. And I'll do what you asked and call her camslut to your face.
Formerly Fred Member	Fri Nov 13 08:01:15 "And believe it or not, you are all invited as well, so if interested, just RSVP here..... " Cool, I'm in.
Asshole UPer Member	Fri Nov 13 09:35:25 DIAF Poison
bonjour Member	Fri Nov 13 10:49:45 I don't need somebody to invite me to go to Las Vegas. Last time I checked anybody could go there whenever the fuck they want.
Milton Bradley Member	Fri Nov 13 10:59:47 Las Vegas is better during the summer.
McKobb Member	Fri Nov 13 11:02:45 I heard you shouldn't go to Las Vegas in a month that that doesn't have an 'r' in it. ...or is that to not eat shellfish? Whatever.
Milton Bradley Member	Fri Nov 13 11:05:28 I went last January, and it was fun, but it was like a ghost town compared to when I went in July a few years ago. Economy might have something to with that.
Kaylana Moderator	Fri Nov 13 11:28:17 The idea of organizing a UGT convention in Vegas has been proposed before. But this isn't enough notice to organize a dozen or more people to take vacation time off at the same time, especially since most companies won't let you take time off before Christmas. And before you go pointing out that it's over the weekend, many people's work days extend over the weekend, and there's still the travel time to take into consideration, so really it's Thursday through Monday.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 13 11:29:11 all the other Vegas trips went off fine
Kaylana Moderator	Fri Nov 13 11:29:11 You're also going to complain that I'm thumbing my nose at your idea, when in reality I'm the only one here who put any consideration into it lol.
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 11:31:47 No I can not send plane tickets. We will drive there, and the group who's taking the ride will share the cost of gas. Those that plan to fly over to Vegas will need to pay for their own fare. But once we are in vegas, we are all splitting cost, except for your own personal expenses (gambling, drinks, private hotel room for fucking, etc.). We will probably get a Suite since at least 8 are expected. We will get more rooms if necessary. Sleeping will be minimal. So.. Fred is in. Ubes, Still Well and FP are in if they are able to pay for their flight expenses.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 13 11:33:45 i've already gotten blueprints :(
Kaylana Moderator	Fri Nov 13 11:33:57 They're cruel teases aren't they.
42 Member	Fri Nov 13 11:35:07 i'll be there, hell i'm there anyway. let me know what shows you want and I'll get 1/2 price tix no problem also let me know if you want any pros, I can arrange that as well, costs a little more if you want them hairless though, but I'm assuming you don't like hair around the dick when you suck it
Kaylana Moderator	Fri Nov 13 11:37:21 Since my warnings go unappreciated, I'll do the next kindest thing and leave the conversation for a change.
Formerly Fred Member	Fri Nov 13 11:37:38 "But once we are in vegas, we are all splitting cost" Fuck that shit, I'm not financing a vacation for a bunch of faggots I've never met. I will pay for all my own shit. All you others can go the socialist route if you want. I just want to party with Poison. From reading his posts over the years, I'm sure he can show me a good time like I've never had before.
Milton Bradley Member	Fri Nov 13 11:39:17 "he can show me a good time like I've never had before. " Better than the mexican tranny?
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 13 11:40:05 Fine, I'll go plan my own Vegas heist... with blackjack... and hookers... In fact, forget the heist and the blackjack.
Firestorm Phoenix Member	Fri Nov 13 11:40:47 Alias Member Fri Nov 13 11:31:47 No I can not send plane tickets. - See, if you didnt max out your credit card on camwhores, this wouldnt be an issue.
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 11:41:29 If you don't plan to split cost with the group, then you shouldn't come. Wait, I take it back... you can come (it's your choice), but you won't be sleeping in the same room, watching the same show, or going to the same dining as we are. You will not be invited to any of these. You will be on your own pretty much.
Formerly Fred Member	Fri Nov 13 11:41:58 "Better than the mexican tranny? " Good point. Thanks for reminding me, douche. Oh and why the fuck would you rent a suite when you're only going to sleep there? Better off getting a $20 room at Circus Circus.
Milton Bradley Member	Fri Nov 13 11:43:43 Fred has a point. Usually you dont spend much time in your hotel room. Excalibur had the lowest room rates last Jan when I went. The room was tiny and the bed was rock hard, but it was cheap and had a nice view.
Milton Bradley Member	Fri Nov 13 11:44:07 "Good point. Thanks for reminding me, douche. " You're welcome.
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 11:45:20 A suite is lot cheaper than getting four/five rooms.
42 Member	Fri Nov 13 11:48:30 A suite at the Frontier is much cheaper than four of five rooms at the Bellagio. but yeah, fred knows what he's saying, you do not. Then again since it's your plan to probably drug everyone in the room so you can rape them it's pretty clear why you want to pack as many dudes into the same room as possible. Oh, and have them pick up the cost as well. fucking cheap ass gook
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 11:50:55 oh by the way, you are welcome to bring your bf/gf/wife/husband to the trip. Excluding the UGTers/UPers, the majority of the group will be 22 with a few 23 and 21 year olds. So if you feel like you'll be out of touch with the group, bring your special someone to mingle with.
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 11:52:20 fuck off, 42. Just because I'm hosting it doesn't mean I'm paying for everyone's shit.
McKobb Member	Fri Nov 13 11:53:08 http://www...K1qql0&feature=player_embedded They have a thumper! (M79)
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 13 12:04:27 ideal for home defense
McKobb Member	Fri Nov 13 12:06:32 You're interrupting my 'kill this thread' post!
Formerly Fred Member	Fri Nov 13 12:11:23 "If you don't plan to split cost with the group,you won't be ...watching the same show, or going to the same dining as we are. You will not be invited to any of these. You will be on your own pretty much. " So if I don't pay your way and the way of a bunch of other people I've never met in addition to mine, I'm not invited? Wow. Fucking lame.
Formerly Fred Member	Fri Nov 13 12:13:24 "Just because I'm hosting it doesn't mean I'm paying for everyone's shit. " Why the fuck not? You obviously want ME to, and you even say I can't go along if I don't.
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 12:14:16 That's why we are discussing this thoroughly, especially with the costs. What's the point of going with the group if you don't plan on following through the plan? You might as well go there alone.
42 Member	Fri Nov 13 12:19:50 The host usually pays for shit. You aren't being a host, you're being a fucking leech trying to get a bunch of dudes together for some kind of circle jerk. Who the fuck is going to see Cirque de Gay anyway? Only fags. Fred, let me know when and where and we'll meet up for something, hopefully it'll involve ruining this douchebags fag fest.
talon121 member	Fri Nov 13 12:20:59 Fred obviously does not understand that the cost would be divided among the group so he would end up paying pretty much the same. Just being forced to do all the same shit with them.
Firestorm Phoenix Member	Fri Nov 13 12:23:34 "1. You have to be my friend (which you are, or you wouldn't have received this invitation)" And yet, you posted it here.
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 12:23:52 First of all, it's not all dudes. From the eight that will go for sure, three are female. And of all the people that showed interest in this trip (~15 in addition to the original eight), nearly half are female.
42 Member	Fri Nov 13 12:26:34 You don't count as 3 people poison.
Formerly Fred Member	Fri Nov 13 12:27:11 "Fred obviously does not understand that the cost would be divided among the group so he would end up paying pretty much the same." I understand just fine. I understand that I don't want to share an overpriced suite with a bunch of total fucking strangers. I'd hate to have to punch out some fag trying to grab my junk after he gets drunk on Zima. I also have no interest on seeing faggy shit like Cirque de Gay. Meals, gambling, and other shows could be fun though. Though I've seen Blue Man too many times now.
Formerly Fred Member	Fri Nov 13 12:30:45 Anyway. my flight and room are booked. Arriving McCarren on Northwest #2499 at 11 AM and staying at the Sahara.
42 Member	Fri Nov 13 12:32:29 I have to say the Michael Mina restaurant in the Ballagio is very nice. Especially their pre-show menu, 3 courses for ~$55. It's really more like 5 courses since the kitchen sends out a couple test samples for new dishes between the 3 courses. Had myself an incredible Ahi Tuna Tartare, best dish I've had all year, edging the Lobster Poblano Rellano I had this summer. The desert was a homemade root beer float with sarsaparilla ice cream. Not the most gourmet dish, but damn do i like homemeade root beer.
talon121 member	Fri Nov 13 12:39:54 Oh and btw I completely agree. Poison would be a total fag for not letting you hang out with him just because you are not "part of the group"
Formerly Fred Member	Fri Nov 13 12:45:46 So if Poison and his posse of all decide to go to a gay bar with a $20 cover and I don't want to go, he still expects me to pay $20 for not going.
42 Member	Fri Nov 13 12:47:59 Poison is expecting everyone else to pay for everything so he can just leech off everyone and hope they get drunk enough for him to be able to take advantage of them. Some fucking host ehh? Usually a host, would not just organize everything, but cover most incidental costs as well. I bet when poison invites people over to his place for dinner he tells them where to pick up the take out and has them pay for it as well. fucking jewgook
Palem Person.	Fri Nov 13 13:37:05 lol poison thinks we're his friends.
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 14:19:03 Look, dipshit. Splitting cost means nothing more than paying for your own expense. The only things you will need to split cost for are: 1. Shows (ONLY if you plan to watch it) 2. Suites 3. Buffet So really, you have nothing to lose for splitting since it'll be essentially same cost as paying for your own. And no, Host doesn't mean they have to pay for everything, nimrod. All I'll be doing is settling the ride situation, making reservations, and setting up budget. If you don't want part in this, fuck off.
Palem Person.	Fri Nov 13 14:25:59 Wait wait wait...does this mean you won't be on here from the 18th to the 20th?
Canadian Member	Fri Nov 13 14:39:17 No, he'll be here.
Milton Bradley Member	Fri Nov 13 14:40:47 He will post claiming he in Las Vegas, drunk after coming back from some club where he danced with two superhot women, and how they are both asleep after a threesome. Or some variation of that. No one will believe him.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 13 14:44:23 i say he will post about losing all his money & getting beat up by a hooker
42 Member	Fri Nov 13 14:52:36 Splitting the cost for the buffet? how fucking retarded are you?
bonjour Member	Fri Nov 13 14:55:44 I don't understand. Here's the way it should be. Each person pays for his own shit. Unless something is shared, like a room, gas, etc. And then the cost of everything that is shared is split among the people who shared it. We're not talking rocket science here. This is like common sense shit. I don't know why Poison is making it so complicated.
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 15:01:25 " Unless something is shared, like a room, gas, etc. And then the cost of everything that is shared is split among the people who shared it. " How the hell is that any different than what I've been suggesting all along? Go work on your comprehension, fuckhead.
Formerly Fred Member	Fri Nov 13 15:02:32 "Splitting the cost for the buffet? " Say the buffet is $15 each. Say 10 people go. That's a total of $150. So each persons "share" is $15. Apparently we each give our "share" to poison and then he pays the $150. Makes total sense. LOL
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 15:05:18 Here's my suggestion: If you are doing it, you will be part of the "split". If not, you don't need to. But most likely, we'll be driving, be staying in the same suite, going to the same show, and be eating in the same buffet as everyone else is, on most occasions. Now if you are driving on your own, then you pay for your gas and do not need to pay for other people's share. If you don't want to stay in the same suite as everyone, you dont need to pay for it. If you don't want to watch the show, you don't pay for it. If you want to run off and eat at somewhere else, then you don't pay for the buffet (or wherever the group is eating). Now tell me why this sounds so ridiculously unfair to you all.
Formerly Fred Member	Fri Nov 13 15:07:50 "Now tell me why this sounds so ridiculously unfair to you all. " Because tickets for shows and buffets are the same for everyone in your group. Splitting those costs is just an act of stupidity as I demonstrated in my last post.
bonjour Member	Fri Nov 13 15:07:53 That's not unfair. You just have terrible communication skills and managed to confuse the hell out of everybody with a very simple concept.
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 15:10:50 I change my mind. bonjour or whoever this french motherfucker is is not invited. I don't this idiot whining throughout the whole weekend on why everything's so unfair.
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 15:11:28 I don't *WANT*
Formerly Fred Member	Fri Nov 13 15:12:16 The only thing so far that makes sense in cost splitting is sharing private transportation and rooms. Neither of which I'll be doing.
bonjour Member	Fri Nov 13 15:13:01 All I'm trying to say is you keep going on with this "spitting" nonsense when really all that you need to say is everybody pays for his own shit. If you end up splitting something with somebody then you share the bill. Simple, simple, simple.
Formerly Fred Member	Fri Nov 13 15:13:01 Any idea what hotel you're staying at poison?
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 15:13:04 Fred, do you really hate social gathering that much?
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 15:14:36 Venetian is my first option. They have super nice Suites.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 13 15:22:58 The Venetian has nicely drawn floorplans on the website (PDFs) http://www...an/ACCOMMODATIONS/PENTHOUS.pdf
Formerly Fred Member	Fri Nov 13 15:23:37 Social gatherings are OK once in awhile. I don't really care much for small talk and stupid people, which is what 95% of social gatherings are.
Formerly Fred Member	Fri Nov 13 15:26:06 rrival & Suite Information Arrival Date: 12/18/09 Number of Nights: 3 Number of Adults: 2 Number of Children: 0 Reservation Total: $1,287.00 Estimated Tax: $154.44 Estimated Total with Tax: $1,441.44 Preferred Room Type: Venetian Prima Suite-1 King Bed
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 15:26:55 It's time that you explore how the younger generations gather and hang. You've been with your fellow truckers for far too long, it seems that you lost what it means to truly have fun. Make this an opportunity to make new connections and friends in L.A. Or just have fun.
Formerly Fred Member	Fri Nov 13 15:33:02 "Estimated Tax: $154.44 " LOL, I have a room cheaper than the tax on that suite. Fuck paying all that cash just to sleep.
bonjour Member	Fri Nov 13 15:34:30 He's right. Just get as many of you as possible to pile into a cheap room someplace. Gamble away the money you save.
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 15:37:30 Except with 10 people or so, each person will be responsible for around $150. The more people, the cheaper it gets.
42 Member	Fri Nov 13 15:38:21 Besides the Venetian sucks balls. Vegas is already semi-dead due in large part to the tanking world economy, around x-mas it's usually even more dead (other than for new years), which is good and bad. But yeah, to pay that rate during a down time is retarded. Plenty of 2nd tier strip hotels that you should be able to land a suite at for half or less of that rate. Or, just get a couple adjoining rooms with 2 queens if you're only using them to keep your crap in and crash/shower. Though if you and your fag friends want to split 1.5k for a single king size bed I guess that's your call.
tumbleweed the wanderer	Fri Nov 13 15:39:36 i'll update my earlier prediction to him posting about getting booted from the hotel for sneaking too many people into the room
42 Member	Fri Nov 13 15:40:44 and i'll reiterate my previous statement that poison is a jewgook.
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 15:42:18 that is not the issue now. by next friday, I'll have the exact count of how many people plan to go. The room situation may change based on that.
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 15:44:17 42, you are not even going, so stfu.
42 Member	Fri Nov 13 15:45:39 I'm not going, because I'm already there idiot. Here, tell you what, for $1k you and 7 other people can stay at my place for the weekend. You'll be driving up from LA so you'll have cars to get you where ever you need to go anyway.
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 15:47:28 You do not live in Vegas, you fucking liar.
Ailas Member	Fri Nov 13 15:48:33 You do not live in Vegas, you fucking liar.
42 Member	Fri Nov 13 15:50:48 Ok. See ya there.
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 15:51:54 So Fred is going. 42 is meeting up there. This will be an interesting meeting lol.
42 Member	Fri Nov 13 15:53:28 I'll be dressed as a mexican migrant handing out hooker trading cards in front of NYNY.
Formerly Fred Member	Fri Nov 13 16:00:09 "I'll be dressed as a mexican migrant handing out hooker trading cards in front of NYNY. " Well that narrows it down to about 600 people.
Alias Member	Fri Nov 13 16:01:24 I'll get you guys' phone number so we can arrange a time and place to meet up.
The Powers That Be Member	Fri Nov 13 16:11:21 After reading this thread, I am seriously considering going to Vegas now.
The Powers That Be Member	Fri Nov 13 16:15:00 Poison, I'm here on the Sahara website per what Formerly Fred had mentioned and the room rates are dirt cheap. $124 for a standard room. Jesus christ, to meet both Fred and Poison in real life? That's worth it enough.
Formerly Fred Member	Fri Nov 13 16:21:59 "Sahara website per what Formerly Fred had mentioned and the room rates are dirt cheap. $124 for a standard room." It's less than that. Mine was less than $100 for 3 nights.
Poisons Pussy Member	Fri Nov 13 16:23:48 i hope you guys pound me when i pass out after half a beer.
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