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Cherub Cow
Member
Wed Nov 13 07:17:13
Diablo IV hype thread! (And game-time thread if it's released in this century?)

"Diablo 4 - Official Announcement Cinematic Trailer | Blizzcon 2019"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SSYzl9fXOQ
Cherub Cow
Member
Wed Nov 13 07:17:23
"Diablo 4 - Barbarian, Sorcerer & Druid Official Gameplay Trailer"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae42e8Flb5o
Cherub Cow
Member
Wed Nov 13 07:22:25
Looks like Blizzard will post updates here:
http://blizzard.gamespress.com/Diablo-IV
Cherub Cow
Member
Wed Nov 13 07:23:38
And the general game page is here:
http://diablo.blizzard.com/
(With a general link like that, I expect it to be broken by 2021 — currently 2019, for reference)

..and as I mentioned in thread "#UGTwit107", "People keep bringing up the Hong Kong issue, but while China is China (messed up to the bitter end), *if* Blizzard releases a good game, then it should be weighed on its own merits. It's the same thing for me with actors like Tom Cruise; I don't care if he's a Scientologist if he makes good movies. That being said.. who knows if this'll be a good game."

I agree with WoO that there's reason to be optimistic, and in the mean time I'm looking at the former games ;p
Repel
Member
Wed Nov 13 08:19:24
Diablo 3 anyone? Seems I can play that on the us servers without buying the whole freaking game again :p
damian db
Moderator
Wed Nov 13 12:52:13
I was at blizzcon and played the demo on the floor as a druid. It was quite fun and a beautiful game. I'm excited. Just seeing the slick blood coating the werebear/wolf forms was awesome.
Repel
Member
Wed Nov 13 14:07:33
It has a druid as playable character? K I'm sold!
Cherub Cow
Member
Thu Nov 14 05:29:45
Druid looks super cool too. The wolf seems even taller than the bear :D

..
"I was at blizzcon and played the demo on the floor as a druid."

Cool! Does it look pretty finished, then? I'm wondering how close they might be to release... maybe they'd shoot for (early?) summer 2020...
damian db
Moderator
Fri Nov 15 06:08:49
While it looks pretty crisp, it was a very small demo compared to the game. I was at level 20, couldn't test any talents besides what it had picked. new gear dropped and they had some runes to demo them, but it was very streamlined for the convention. My hope is more early 2021, more than likely though late 2021. One of the guys that was with me believe late 2020, but I don't think it will be ready by then.
Cherub Cow
Member
Fri Nov 15 06:15:05
:'(
Cherub Cow
Member
Sun Nov 17 04:12:04
Diablo 1 was put on GOG in March of this year (2019), btw.
http://www.gog.com/game/diablo
..which means that it's finally playable on Windows 10 right from download instead of the previous method of using an iso or dealing with crashes and bad mod versions. I started playing it yesterday and have been having fun :D
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Mar 02 23:41:00
Sounds like Damian was on target with that late 2021 prediction for a Diablo IV release. They've started a "quarterly update" blog, so they intend to take their time.. which is good.. just hope that we don't get wiped out by Chinese viral weapons before they finish ;)

..
February 26, 2020 update:
http://new...quarterly-update-february-2020
TLDR:
- They took feedback from the Con and implemented some changes
- Looks like they've made aesthetic updates to the inventory screens ("our goal of a gritty, realistic UI")
- Experimenting with menu positions for PC and console versions
- Plot and gameplay side: monsters distributed into four "families" (cultists, cannibals, drowned, and.. an unreleased family?). It's supposed to correspond to how the other Diablos used "families", like, Diablo 1 had skeletons/zombies (undead), meats, animals, whatever.

I hope they don't spend too much time with console accommodations, since console is for dirty peasants ;p
Repel
Member
Tue Mar 03 05:23:35
"I hope they don't spend too much time with console accommodations, since console is for dirty peasants ;p"

you are our new savior CC! *falls on his knees and kisses ground she walks on*
Cherub Cow
Member
Tue Mar 03 07:42:08
Lol
I shall usher in an era of console intolerance! \:D/
nhill
Member
Wed Mar 04 11:45:22
PC Master Race has you covered there. :)
hood
Member
Thu Mar 05 00:09:08
You could just play Grim Dawn though.
Cherub Cow
Member
Thu Mar 05 04:22:40
tw recommended that one too... okay, I'm sold :)
Cherub Cow
Member
Wed Oct 07 08:27:52
Blizzard released another quarterly update in late September (2020). One notable thing was the skill tree artwork:
http://bli...eight=4096&mode=pad&format=jpg
Backup image here, since Blizzard always breaks their links: http://i.imgur.com/xpqCAPU.jpg

That was the centerpiece of the Q3 update (developing the sorceress' skill tree):
http://news.blizzard.com/en-us/diablo4/23529210/diablo-iv-quarterly-update-september-2020
A familiar spell name appears: charged bolt. They also have demos of some spell animations. I didn't read too closely, since it's too early for the small details to matter ;p
Cherub Cow
Member
Sat Feb 20 11:39:26
Blizzard gave a big Diablo IV update for BlizzCon:

"BlizzConline 2021 - Diablo IV: What's Next"
[Diablo; February 19th, 2021]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO3LQqpiBvQ
• Rogue character announced (Diablo 1 throwback)
• They did another D1&D2 throw-back with PvP ear-collecting in the cinematic. The people in this video only seem to reference it from D2, so they may never have played D1... so that's... interesting... I pointed this out in a comment there :p .. it looks like Joe Piepiora joined Blizzard in 2017 and Careena Kingdom joined in 2012.. so that explains it. I kind of doubt that anyone who played Diablo 1 in the '90s would be involved in making Diablo IV. Working for Blizzard must be like getting hired at any tech company nowadays: just a standard cubicle job.
• They added horsies and horsie-riding, but they call them "mounts" because that's the l33t gam3r thing to do post-WoW or whatever. Just call them horsies and ponies! Make it yours! ;p
• they added character customization screens (so not just the stock characters like in D1&D2); not sure if they let you alter their faces, but they preview changes to tattoos, scars, skin color, hair color, eye color, makeup, and starting clothes..
• Lots of similar mechanics from Diablo 2 were brought back, like fire/ice/poison imbued items — mostly standard hack&slash powers nowadays
• Optional PvP zones added which have special items and bonuses to incentivize people to enter and fight each other

It looks very nice, especially the worlds. The art was a definite focus, and it shows. I don't necessarily like their treatment of the rogue (huge departure from Diablo 1), but I know my tastes in games doesn't drive any market anywhere ;p

Current speculation has Diablo IV releasing in 2022 ( http://www.pcgamesn.com/diablo-4/release-date ). That's based on development milestones still needed and "Activision saying that 2022 will be a “big year” for “Blizzard in particular.”"
..So plenty of time to run through your Steam library ;)
McKobb
Member
Fri Feb 26 06:36:16
kinda interested in D2 remake tbh
Cherub Cow
Member
Sun Feb 28 10:11:22
It looks pretty cool! My understanding is that it's exactly the same game mechanics but updated art and graphics, which would be awesome. I've heard some people say that that game-play is "dated", but I recently replayed Diablo 1 a few times (which was updated by a third party to have better detail), and that still holds up, so those people just don't get it :p

Diablo 2 remastered looks scheduled for release in December 2021, btw. That seems to give further weight to expectations that Diablo IV will release in early/mid 2022, since it's an appropriate marketing move to get people playing Diablo 2 to hype up Diablo IV.
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid
Member
Sun Apr 11 10:12:41
thay tried 2 kil dieblo 2 cus they were woried it wuld compete wit dieblo 3 wich wuz a pise of shit rofl
McKobb
Member
Fri Apr 23 14:18:20
no doubt
HH Psycho Guy
Moderator
Sun May 09 19:29:02
Okay, but do you guys have phones?
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon May 10 03:51:04
*crowd boos*
Repel
Member
Mon May 10 06:44:39
*rim shot*
*me laughs*
nhill
Member
Mon May 10 09:06:36
*readies for rim job*
*realizes he's in the wrong thread*

where am i
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon May 10 21:44:34
btw, "Diablo 2: Resurrected" Beta pre-registration has begun:
http://diablo2.blizzard.com/en-us/
It'd be neat to beta test the new one.. if only for the nostalgia of having beta-tested the original Diablo 2 release ;)
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon May 10 21:46:59
A screenshot of that page for posterity, since that link's contents will change:
http://i.imgur.com/DSViHnB.png
McKobb
Member
Tue May 11 04:06:24
nostalgia ftw
Cherub Cow
Member
Sun Jun 13 23:08:52
The modern "Blizzard" aspect of Diablo II (money-grabbing) has kicked in: pre-purchasing of the game has begun (June 13th, 2021), with the incentive being that you get "early access to the Diablo II: Resurrected Open Beta"...

In other words, they're trying to get their beta testers to pay *them* to test the game. I'm just guessing that they need only a certain amount of beta testers, and with enough demand they'll be able to pull all the beta testers they need from these "pay to test" people. Then again, maybe there will be open betas?
HH Psycho Guy
Moderator
Sun Jul 11 19:40:33
Ya know, the paid beta test/early access thing has become some common I can't even get mad about it anymore. If people want to play it so bad that they'll pay to debug it, let them.

The thing that pisses me off is when the game either never leaves the beta/early access or it comes out as a terrifying buggy mess anyway.
nhill
Member
Sun Jul 11 20:51:40
I think some of those cases (not leaving beat/early) is because they know they'd get smoked by reviews. So just keep it in beta then no critic can review it.

http://i.k...00/022/138/highresrollsafe.jpg
Carly DB
Member
Wed Nov 10 08:43:21
Has anyone played D II yet? I have a friend that played it as a kid and she said it brings back all her nostalgia even though she's embraced the updated graphics. :) D III was my first exposure to Diablo but I'm tempted to do D II just for fun while waiting for D IV.
Repel
Member
Wed Nov 10 08:52:16
Saw some game play of it it looks very neat for such an old game, I personally think they did a good job. But I'm not keen to play it, too used to play DIII.

in a matter of fact I just started again with the last season of DIII. grinding torment lvls again yay!
Carly DB
Member
Wed Nov 10 09:36:11
I think that's also what will stop me from actually playing D II. I mean...I'd have to stop playing D III and I'm just not sure that's going to happen. lol
nhill
Member
Wed Nov 10 15:37:19
Never played D3, probably never will. Hack and slash looting not really my style. More of a turn-based nurrrrd. What's so fun about it? :D
Carly DB
Member
Wed Nov 10 21:06:06
The story is fun and engaging for one. There is so much you can control about how your character's skills are built that we could both pick the same class and have such wildly different characters. I also think this makes replaying the game more fun since I get to come up with a different build each time.
I also love to have a few drinks and play it with my husband (who introduced me to the game) and I find it really fun to play that way. :)
nhill
Member
Wed Nov 10 21:23:04
Cool cool :) Maybe I'll try it with my wife and kids on one of our game nights. Probably more fun than Bingo, lol!
Repel
Member
Thu Nov 11 09:12:20
I really enjoy the simplicity of just hack and slash with this game I sometimes need this kind of thing, and yeah what Carly says its fun to explore with different gear and abilities. I have my favorite monk set and to farm it I use the season one and try it out see if I can get a good result out of it
nhill
Member
Thu Nov 11 10:16:38
Nothing wrong with some mindless fun every once in a while!
Repel
Member
Fri Nov 12 06:02:16
oh btw since battle net finally is world wide does anyone overseas wanna connect? feel free to add me Repel#2676
Quiet Sound
Member
Sat Nov 13 17:49:41
"Has anyone played D II yet?"


Assuming you mean D2R, if the servers work I'd give it a thumbs up if you either want to play with a controller or can stomach click-to-move gameplay. I tried the controller support during the open beta and found it to be a good match for ARPG gameplay. Bought it shortly before the servers died for a week but it was fine until then.
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid
Member
Mon Jan 10 12:02:49
did ne1 else evar mastarbait 2 da diablo 2 amazon az a kid
OsamaIsDaWorstPresid
Member
Wed Apr 20 16:32:04
im guesin dats a yes and ure 2 ashamid 2 admit it
nhill
Member
Wed Apr 20 17:44:55
Dude, no. I was busy wanking it to the cover of Blink-182.
nhill
Member
Wed Apr 20 17:46:09
http://ima...e=FUNEJrfmtjpkNwncS20cvAM3f6s=

so many wanks to this
Cherub Cow
Member
Sun Apr 24 18:14:35
A comment pointed out that this heckler is probably the boss as the end of Diablo IV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY9cSFRBzJc
Cherub Cow
Member
Sun Apr 24 18:14:53
*[at] the end
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Feb 06 05:26:37
The release date for Diablo IV was set at 6.6.2023, and a launch trailer was released for it in December 2022:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsNDMHvz98M

Do not preorder it, of course.

Big worries continue.
Blizzard has slightly hinted that they'll avoid Diablo:Immortal's pay-to-win issues (lies), but they seem likely to weave micro-transactions and monthly fees into their model if they can (e.g., "Battle Pass"). There's also evidence that they'll have purchasable horsies and other quality-of-gaming upgrades and game editions (i.e., pay-to-win).

Their dev update video was a *lot* of them selling collectors items and merch instead of talking about the game itself ( https://youtu.be/Izo-Fa-cYZQ ). There's a 10–15 minute section in the middle where they show gameplay and talk about the skill tree, but it has that cheesy WoW overlay of numbers and notifications (and the font was way too big). It's usually possible to toggle that nowadays, so it's probably not an issue, but this wasn't a good demo..

Most of the artwork still looks very nice, and that alone is probably the game's greatest feature.
Still, they've clearly had their character-class aesthetic choices influenced by losers (e.g., ugly character models, stupid hair cuts, tattoos, DIE imperatives). That means ESG infiltration, which would make it immoral to support Blizzard financially.

In checking after writing the above, Blizzard did indeed become an ESG company in 2020, which likely doomed all of its future work:
"In 2020, we established an ESG Steering Committee and task-specific, cross-functional, enterprise-wide ESG working groups. Our ESG working groups are composed of individuals from our executive management team and employees from across our business units and corporate functions. They support the steering committee by identifying relevant ESG matters. The ESG steering committee and working groups grew and guided our efforts across 2021."
( https://ourcommitments.activisionblizzard.com/esgreports )


TLDR:
It's looking this game will disappoint a lot of people.
The story probably even has agitprop at this point. It might be worth a hate watch of someone else's YouTube playthrough, though? We'll see.
Repel
Member
Mon Feb 06 13:48:11
so don't even touch it with a 10 feet pole? got ya!

too bad though I was kinda looking forward to it.

Guess I have to watch some twitch game play then
Cherub Cow
Member
Mon Feb 06 20:07:14
Yeah :/
It's looking like a "proceed with caution" situation... Definitely will watch Twitch play before even thinking about a purchase.
Repel
Member
Fri Mar 17 12:17:05
Watching some beta game play on Twitch right now. game looks nice. seems the beta will be open this weekend for one unlocked char slot. next time they will be opening more char slots and playable characters
Cherub Cow
Member
Thu Nov 23 19:23:37
This is sort of old news now, but "Unscripted" on YouTube does A.I. edits to make "honest" voice-overs of game devs and such, and he did this one for Diablo IV:
[October 21st, 2023]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oSkFlkSdKQ

• "We want to put monetization front and center"
• "On launch, Alpha-testers can join us on Battle.net followed by the Beta-testers on Steam."
• "Feedback will never have any direct impact on development."
• "They are relying on your nostalgia for a game company that no longer exists."
• "Accept that Blizzard as you know it is dead."

The "Operator Bundle" looks good! :)
Repel
Member
Sun Nov 26 11:05:06
I havent touched anything Blizzard related for 2 years now, and I'm doing pretty good without it. prefer to play the indie games instead.
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