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chicgeek
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Thu Apr 29 19:12:48 2021
Still having fun?

chicgeek / fyre / fyrefaerie
chicgeek
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Thu Apr 29 19:15:06 2021
Geez, that RIP list keep growing, doesn't it? :(
tumbleweed
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Thu Apr 29 20:42:44 2021
a Thanksgiving 2018 thread is still on the board, so that gives an idea :p
tumbleweed
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Thu Apr 29 21:55:38 2021
since you're a smart person in tech stuff, please explain NFTs

there's a recent story of some girl in a meme photo who got $500,000 for it as an NFT

this is one explanation of NFTs
http://pbs...AAR4pq?format=jpg&name=900x900

which is what it seems like to me any time i try to figure it out :p... is it just fake stuff that has value only based on other people assuming it has value?


anyone can answer, just making conversation :p
nhill
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Thu Apr 29 22:35:25 2021
NFT is a cryptographic token that gives you the rights to a digital item. Think baseball cards, but it can be applied to anything digital.
nhill
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Thu Apr 29 22:36:10 2021
> fake stuff that has value only based on other people assuming it has value

You mean like every collector's item, and the United States Dollar?

Yes, exactly like that. That's how markets work.
nhill
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Thu Apr 29 22:36:44 2021
Hi Laura!
tumbleweed
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Thu Apr 29 23:18:24 2021
what does 'owning' a meme photo get you? are people not supposed to still use it? how do you even show off that you own it
nhill
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Thu Apr 29 23:44:36 2021
It's a collectible item. Like a baseball card.
tumbleweed
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Thu Apr 29 23:51:09 2021
but you can show off a card... or be obsessed w/ completing sets... there's no set to these

& anyone can right-click->save to get the same thing you have

also, is the $500,000 likely someone who just wanted to be generous to the girl, or is there some belief it has that value? (it's the smirking girl w/ house on fire in background)

also also, who is in charge of determining if listings are from the genuine creator... if i try to NFT sell the troll face drawing, who's checking & how?
nhill
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Fri Apr 30 01:30:07 2021
Anyone can print a baseball card, what's your point?

And there are sets to these. I own some NFT playing cards that I can use in an online game, and trade. It's a MtG-type game.

There's sets of different art, etc.

As for determining the authenticity, there are ways to verify identity (e.g. using their verified Twitter account) that people often use. The market will value an NFT than can be verified over one that cannot.

Literally the same thing that has happened ever since we transitioned to an agrarian society.

It's a market.

You can't sell someone else's NFT because it's tied to private wallets. You can try to make an NFT on something that isn't your's. And the market will again decide how much that's worth, if anything.
nhill
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Fri Apr 30 01:31:25 2021
And it's quite easy to show them off. Just link to your NFT in the blockchain and you can show your friends the authenticity signed cryptographically by the creator.
nhill
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Fri Apr 30 01:32:31 2021
The authenticity thing is nothing different than physical collectible items. You have to trust the seller and do your own due diligence their also.

Yes, there's counterfeits. Just like any collectible market.
nhill
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Fri Apr 30 01:33:38 2021
> You have to trust the seller and do your own due diligence their also.

*there
nhill
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Fri Apr 30 01:33:58 2021
> The market will value an NFT than can be verified over one that cannot.

*that can be verified
nhill
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Fri Apr 30 01:34:39 2021
> It's a MtG-type game.
*an
tumbleweed
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Fri Apr 30 02:04:38 2021
i don't think anyone prints out baseball cards & thinks they have the card (just like you can't print out MtG cards)

but apparently this whole thing makes sense to some group of people, so i'll accept your explanations
nhill
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Fri Apr 30 02:30:16 2021
People print cards and sell them as genuine all the time. Arguably that’s harder to do with an NFT because of cryptographic signatures.

You can’t print your own NFT as something you own or created unless people trust you. Just like you have to trust the card shop is selling genuine items and the Louis Vuitton vendor is seeking genuine purses.

Literally no different than any collectible market is all that needs to be understood from an economic standpoint.

It’s cool that some people aren’t interested in it.
nhill
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Fri Apr 30 02:31:00 2021
Selling genuine purses, that is.
nhill
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Fri Apr 30 02:33:18 2021
BTW digital collectibles have been a thing long before NFTs. This is a way to make digital collectibles more valuable and allows people to profit and trade from them instead of having them being tied to an account.

Think TF2 hats, except you can trade them on an open market with no fees distributed to the original distributor.
nhill
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Fri Apr 30 02:34:58 2021
Cryptographic blockchain technology is Internet 3.0.

It’s an amazing ecosystem and allow people to benefit from interactions instead of companies.
nhill
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Fri Apr 30 02:35:23 2021
Damn phone. Allows people, is what I meant.
Repel
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Fri Apr 30 12:39:09 2021
Hello and welcome back to this deserted place on the internet. Although it seems more and more oldies are coming back missing the good old times or looking for something comfortable of the past.
nhill
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Fri Apr 30 22:01:46 2021
Look at you, musing philosophically!
McKobb
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Sat May 01 05:37:45 2021
wassup ya'll?

chicgeek
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Sat May 01 21:38:07 2021
Oh good, nhill answered the question about crypto so I didn't have to. :D Hi nhill!
chicgeek
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Sat May 01 21:39:01 2021
But yeah - what's the deal with the IRC link? It seems broken but I'd be up for more noise in my life from you lot.
nhill
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Sun May 02 05:08:15 2021
So good to see you! How's your adult life coming along?
Repel
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Sun May 02 11:16:07 2021
The irc thing never worked as far as I know. Maybe a few months in the beginning. Closes thing to a chat like that would be discord. Maybe we can persuade the admin of utopia game discord to put up a channel for us in their discord? :)
chicgeek
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Sun May 02 22:57:53 2021
We can just set up something on Freenode, maybe.

Adulting is tiring, especially these days. I'm still in UK, still in web dev but on the management side. Doing well, invested in what I do, but work is work, ya know? Ran my first 10k this week and recently applied for citizenship (yay, I guess…). Stuff.

And you? And anyone else?
McKobb
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Mon May 03 00:23:36 2021
>>Ran my first 10k this week

amazing
nhill
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Mon May 03 00:26:01 2021
> Adulting is tiring, especially these days. I'm still in UK, still in web dev but on the management side. Doing well, invested in what I do, but work is work, ya know? Ran my first 10k this week and recently applied for citizenship (yay, I guess…). Stuff.

Congrats on both the citizenship (I guess?) and the 10k!

I'm in a similar boat. Engineering lead at a $100 billion dollar company. I miss coding full time but that's the gig. Gotta branch out to move up. It's okay though. I get to mentor younger colleagues and see them grow.
Repel
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Mon May 03 11:09:31 2021
Not familiar with freenode but if it’s closer to irc than discord will ever be then sure ^^
chicgeek
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Mon May 03 22:23:50 2021
> I'm in a similar boat. Engineering lead at a $100 billion dollar company. I miss coding full time but that's the gig. Gotta branch out to move up. It's okay though. I get to mentor younger colleagues and see them grow.

Yeah, this is what I'm about. Engineering manager, starting at a new place tomorrow, actually! I miss dev, but I'd miss the "growing others" part more.

> Not familiar with freenode but if it’s closer to irc than discord will ever be then sure ^^

Freenode is just an IRC server, the biggest one at least for open source teams.
nhill
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Mon May 03 23:13:38 2021
I see we still have much in common. <3
hood
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Tue May 04 05:25:06 2021
its not like setting up a discord server would be difficult.

also hello
NightBloom
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Tue May 04 14:16:41 2021
Glad to see a lot of people that I actually like in this thread. :) Me? Playing music full time these days. Scheduled to play 250ish shows this year. Can't complain.
Repel
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Tue May 04 15:05:00 2021
No it wont be that difficult to setup discord that's true, but how many of us are using discord?

250 shows? that's a full schedule NB, grats! any plans for an Europe tournee? :D
NightBloom
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Tue May 04 18:03:43 2021
The possibility is there. Bluegrass festival in Rotterdam may actually have us next year.
Repel
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Tue May 04 18:34:22 2021
That's the one in June no? Would be something to see you guys play live :D
chicgeek
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Tue May 04 23:02:24 2021
I think I'm one of the few that has generally avoided discord, but I'm happy to go where the flock goes to talk to old friends.

NightBloom: AWESOME. And bluegrass? Any link?

I feel like I want to put together some sort of opt-in UGTD, Google sheet or something. I've lost track of so much of what's gone on for who over the years.
hood
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Wed May 05 02:50:37 2021
"but how many of us are using discord?"

True.

"Playing music full time these days. Scheduled to play 250ish shows this year."

Dayum! That's cool.
nhill
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Wed May 05 02:51:10 2021
*wave at NightBloom*
chicgeek
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Wed May 05 09:28:40 2021
Random: is it possible to change my password here, or my tagline?

Or is that all to fancy for this series of forms someone calls a forum?
Repel
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Wed May 05 11:06:53 2021
Ask turtle crawler he’s the admin. Just post in politics or try messaging him.
NightBloom
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Thu May 06 15:09:43 2021
Thanks Hood. I'm trying :) Hey Nhill glad to see ya! I miss you both! Hope you are doing well!
nhill
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Fri May 07 01:13:42 2021
Miss you, too. At least in your digital form. Have yet to see your physical form in the flesh. Are you touring to Austin at all?
McKobb
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Fri May 07 06:50:33 2021
yo, wassup kim? that is amazing. can you post a schedule
NightBloom
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Sat May 08 14:39:25 2021
Neill, we aren't this year. Everything is in the North Georgia area. McKobb hey there! I'll send you where you can see our schedule. Miss you too!
Agri
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Sat May 15 13:42:58 2021
A few observations from my side:

- I thought this thread was very old, because it had like almost 50 posts. But apparently it's only 2 weeks old. Either that or 11 years and 2 weeks.

- I clicked the "show deleted posts" link because I thought there were posts missing between all of nhill's posts.

Also, hi everyone!
nhill
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Sat May 15 19:27:24 2021
Sup Agri
nhill
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Sat May 15 19:28:44 2021
I may or may not be splitting up my posts on purpose to breathe some lifeblood into these forums. LETTTSS GOOOO
hood
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Sun May 16 09:14:20 2021
"it's already dead"
nhill
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Sun May 16 10:20:07 2021
You have just given us more blood.FEEED
Agri
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Sun May 16 17:14:47 2021
I'm alright I guess, a lot has happened since I regularly posted here, but I have no idea how much as I don't know when I stopped posting here regularly. If you know what I mean...
nhill
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Mon May 17 01:09:58 2021
I know exactly what you mean. Well this place is back baby!
Repel
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Mon May 17 12:54:53 2021
Made discord channel. It's completely empty atm.
Just a general talk channel and a voice channel. I'll try to add some more channels from this forum later on this week.

https://discord.gg/S7fqJv7j

Lets see if we can have something going on in Discord since people are coming back
NightBloom
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Fri Jul 23 05:42:39 2021
Chicgeek, we play Bluegrass, Gypsy Jazz, Jazz, A bit of Classic Rock ( think Pink Floyd), and Spanish Flamenco. :) We call it, Mountain Gypsy Music:-D http://fb.watch/v/9nMvYXcWV/
Repel
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Mon Aug 28 15:50:52 2023
*kicks thread to the top*
*blows of the dust*

just for those people who got lost on the internet and decided to visit here, and are using Discord. There's a channel of us on there link is in this thread!

I know there wont be many, but hey at least another place to keep in contact with people
NightBloom
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Wed Aug 30 21:04:05 2023
*stirs dust, draws a smiley face*
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